Do you believe in the NWO?

[Forever Sleep]

I suspect most of the big decisions are already being made or highly influenced by the huge corporations. I suspect they donate shit loads of money to our governments in order to maintain influence. Most of our MP's likely already work for these companies in some capacity, or they have a nice little job lined up with them afterwards.

 

[DarkRange55]

I suspect most of the big decisions are already being made or highly influenced by the huge corporations. I suspect they donate shit loads of money to our governments in order to maintain influence. Most of our MP's likely already work for these companies in some capacity, or they have a nice little job lined up with them afterwards.

Revolving door

Revolving door (politics) - Wikipedia

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[JealousOfTheElderly]

I don't consider those fields (including STEM) free from politics but even if I did, the fact that one ethnicity is deemed inherently superior doesn't explain such an high degree of over-representation in the US government if they make up roughly 2% of the population and their average SAT scores aren't higher than those of Asians, who do very "well in intellectual affairs".

re Jerusalem as capital: Menachem Froman (religious), Jacques Atali (non-religious...although the religion that binds all jews nowadays is "The Shoah", which flatters in that it supposedly supports the self-appointed chosenness from where the exclusionary exceptionalism that The Other often criticizes derives).

See Run Unz (Jewish) for information about jewish over-representation at top tier universities not corresponding to merit.

There is also eye-opening information, framed as a story of heroic resistance against antisemitism, about Kaplan.

The phenomenon is much more expansive than the current (or any) US government. I will DM you if you want to discuss it further since the rest borders on thought crime.

One year later in 2024 and everything you've stated is much more in the realm of public knowledge. All you have to do is see every other post on Twitter or read comments sections on news sites that still allow them.

 

[Adûnâi]

NWO is a boomer meme from the 2008 Occupy Wall Street financial crisis. Remember the movie Zeitgeist? I tried watching it a month ago, rather amusing.

Define one world government. The concept is impossible considering that America is the most merciful empire in the history of man, that lost in Iraq and Afghanistan because it prohibited itself to commit genocide (=kill). Without killing, one cannot create a state. And America is already falling apart.

On the other hand, is there a globalist élite? With a secret freemasonic lizard sitting in a secret bunker under Washington DC? Doubt it. Schools of fish do not have a centralised authority to coordinate. I would point to the hiveminds, cultures. There was no central authority that randomly decided that females should have rights, or the Blacks, gays and transvestites. It just happened, because the internal logic of the Christian culture demanded it. Just like back in the 18th century, the Quakers propagandised the abolition of slavery. Or how the wind of change brought Soviet Russia to ruin. These spirits are intangible.

The coronavirus pandemic response can be explained by different governments converging onto a single behaviour, again, no coordination necessary. Add to that herd behaviour. One would need really good reasons to go against WHO (such as the explicit hatred of the West). Even Juche Korea decided not to deny the coronavirus because fighting an enemy seemed to them more fun. But they did refuse the mRNA vaccine, developing their own years later.

The thing is that the governments in the world are trying to become White, European, wearing their suits and ties. But the people on the ground may boil dogs alive, or cut off female genitals. So a form of NWO exists due to the préstige of the Wright brothers and of Yuri Gagarin. But it is going away. Back in the day, the Arabs were socialist. Now they're Islamist. The West is receding because Christianity is unsustainable and self-defeating. And then History will return, "thunderous and bellicose", as Guillaume Faye expected.

 

[DarkRange55]

NWO is a boomer meme from the 2008 Occupy Wall Street financial crisis. Remember the movie Zeitgeist? I tried watching it a month ago, rather amusing.

Define one world government. The concept is impossible considering that America is the most merciful empire in the history of man, that lost in Iraq and Afghanistan because it prohibited itself to commit genocide (=kill). Without killing, one cannot create a state. And America is already falling apart.

On the other hand, is there a globalist élite? With a secret freemasonic lizard sitting in a secret bunker under Washington DC? Doubt it. Schools of fish do not have a centralised authority to coordinate. I would point to the hiveminds, cultures. There was no central authority that randomly decided that females should have rights, or the Blacks, gays and transvestites. It just happened, because the internal logic of the Christian culture demanded it. Just like back in the 18th century, the Quakers propagandised the abolition of slavery. Or how the wind of change brought Soviet Russia to ruin. These spirits are intangible.

The coronavirus pandemic response can be explained by different governments converging onto a single behaviour, again, no coordination necessary. Add to that herd behaviour. One would need really good reasons to go against WHO (such as the explicit hatred of the West). Even Juche Korea decided not to deny the coronavirus because fighting an enemy seemed to them more fun. But they did refuse the mRNA vaccine, developing their own years later.

The thing is that the governments in the world are trying to become White, European, wearing their suits and ties. But the people on the ground may boil dogs alive, or cut off female genitals. So a form of NWO exists due to the préstige of the Wright brothers and of Yuri Gagarin. But it is going away. Back in the day, the Arabs were socialist. Now they're Islamist. The West is receding because Christianity is unsustainable and self-defeating. And then History will return, "thunderous and bellicose", as Guillaume Faye expected.

1. The US is still in Iraq and the initial invasion to topple Saddam was successful. The execution after was terrible.
2. You can make an argument that certain geopolitical influence around parts of the world might be waning or be challenged. But as far as the US declining as a superpower and the economic power, neither of those are true at all. China is a rising power.
3. There is no American Empire. An empire has to have some real semblance of control. There's been imperialism, but you can be imperialistic and not be an empire. Rome was an empire, Great Britain was an empire. The US meddle in a bunch of people's shit for the last 100 years. There's a big difference between those things. The US is the temporary sole superpower.

 

[Adûnâi]

1. The US is still in Iraq and the initial invasion to topple Saddam was successful. The execution after was terrible.

Can an American citizen take a stroll around Baghdad and not be stabbed? Do Americans drain Iraqi oil for free? Why are Americans not in control of the KSA?

But as far as the US declining as a superpower and the economic power, neither of those are true at all. China is a rising power.

Not too sure here. America is dying by its own hand, they're literally tearing down statues to Lee and Churchill.

3. There is no American Empire.

Because Christianity forbids it. Hitler tried to do it, but he got cucked. Imagine Hitler having the resources of the American State. That boggles the imagination.

 

[DarkRange55]

Can an American citizen take a stroll around Baghdad and not be stabbed? Do Americans drain Iraqi oil for free? Why are Americans not in control of the KSA?


Not too sure here. America is dying by its own hand, they're literally tearing down statues to Lee and Churchill.


Because Christianity forbids it. Hitler tried to do it, but he got cucked. Imagine Hitler having the resources of the American State. That boggles the imagination.

There are green zones in Iraq and also what I'm saying is that the country is clearly a lot more stable having us there because you saw what happened when the US pulled out the first time when Isis took over. I'm not saying the entire operation has been completely successful. In fact, it was more stable under Saddam. Iraq is a powder keg of ethnic divisions. But what I'm saying is the initial operations to overthrow the baathist government was successful. The US went wrong, was disbanding the party, and cutting out the army, which caused Civil War. But the US still has soldiers and bases in the country so we have not left…

First of all the United States will forever remain a superpower as long as it maintains its fast nuclear stockpile. Secondly you can say the culturally the United States is in decline but as far as economically and militarily, compared to the rest of the world, absolutely not. China is definitely a rising power, but that does not mean that the US is declining power the way the Russia is. The US has all the ingredients to remain a superpower for minimum the next 100 years.

There are a lot of Christian fundamentalists that would like to see a return to a theocracy…

 

[sserafim]

Yes I believe in the NWO/Illuminati

 

[DarkRange55]

Yes I believe in the NWO/Illuminati

I think you need to define what that really means…

 

[sserafim]

I think you need to define what that really means…

Just like a group of elites controlling everything behind the scenes

 

[DarkRange55]

Just like a group of elites controlling everything behind the scenes

I think that those terms have a lot of baggage, because they've been so heavily associated with conspiracy theories. So when I hear the term illuminati, for example. I imagine people are referring to a group of maybe 13 family members descended from bloodlines that sit in a smoke filled room behind a bookshelf, plotting world events.

Just like a group of elites controlling everything behind the scenes

We all know that the government is corrupt and I don't think you need a formal conspiracy when interest converge.

Can an American citizen take a stroll around Baghdad and not be stabbed? Do Americans drain Iraqi oil for free? Why are Americans not in control of the KSA?


Not too sure here. America is dying by its own hand, they're literally tearing down statues to Lee and Churchill.


Because Christianity forbids it. Hitler tried to do it, but he got cucked. Imagine Hitler having the resources of the American State. That boggles the imagination.

Also, it's actually a lot of South Korean and Chinese in particular companies that have been developing Iraq…
The US is, however, stealing oil from places like Syria.

"Yes, there is a conspiracy, indeed there are a great number of conspiracies, all tripping each other up ... the main thing that I learned about conspiracy theories is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in the conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic. The truth is, that it is not the Jewish banking conspiracy, or the grey aliens, or the twelve-foot reptiloids from another dimension that are in control, the truth is far more frightening; no-one is in control, the world is rudderless"
- Alan Moore

I love games like Deus Ex, which actually veers heavily into NWO territory, but the world is far too chaotic for any of it to be true. If you wish to read into it, I would read into it as a extreme-case scenario. I find it disturbing how people latch onto genuine concerns, only to lash out onto the exact wrong things.
Five Eyes sharing your information? Perfectly fine, nothing wrong with protecting America.
Some politicians doing less than the minimum to mitigate enviromental damage? Satanic NWO, that's what it must be!
The US overthrowing and strongarming countries into their international market? God save the troops!
Some people selling books to children with trans people in them? Must be NWO, cause I, Karen, could never approve of this.
Capitalism running a MGS2-style censorship to make information irrelevant? The invisible hand of the free market!
Some scientists are doing some meteorology tests in Alaska? Satan himself must be behind the NWO now!

It's quite disheartening. Truth is that glowies have been known to spread false conspiracies to people, so as to discredit anything they may have come close to or to make anyone similar-looking look bad or to spread fear or even just to make them go insane. Look up COINTELPRO and Paul Bennewitz, both cases of the government spreading conspiracies for their own purposes. I even remember a case of a federal agent being exposed in a court document to have participated in 8chan threads about mass shootings (or something similar to that). The closest thing to an NWO is the United States foreign policy. They overthrew democracies in Latin America and the Gulf War was a disgusting sham. It is a known fact the Kuwaitis started provoking Iraq into attacking and the US knew about it. It's that and Chinas iron grip on the international markets balls. The same thing the US did to Vietnam, Iraq and Argentina, they are now doing to Cuba, Palestina and Yemen.

Operation Mockingbird - Wikipedia

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Can an American citizen take a stroll around Baghdad and not be stabbed? Do Americans drain Iraqi oil for free? Why are Americans not in control of the KSA?


Not too sure here. America is dying by its own hand, they're literally tearing down statues to Lee and Churchill.


Because Christianity forbids it. Hitler tried to do it, but he got cucked. Imagine Hitler having the resources of the American State. That boggles the imagination.

One of the reasons the United States invaded Iraq, was to put an armored brigade Fallujah. You don't put an armored brigade in for urban pacification. That's infantry not tanks. It threatened Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iran because they didn't know what we were gonna do next.
The US also has the Petro dollar agreement. In the US does sell a lot of weapons to Saudi Arabia and has basically been helping to host a genocide in Yemen wage of proxy war with Iran.

I think that those terms have a lot of baggage, because they've been so heavily associated with conspiracy theories. So when I hear the term illuminati, for example. I imagine people are referring to a group of maybe 13 family members descended from bloodlines that sit in a smoke filled room behind a bookshelf, plotting world events.

We all know that the government is corrupt and I don't think you need a formal conspiracy when interest converge.

Also, it's actually a lot of South Korean and Chinese in particular companies that have been developing Iraq…
The US is, however, stealing oil from places like Syria.

Operation Mockingbird - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

One of the reasons the United States invaded Iraq, was to put an armored brigade Fallujah. You don't put an armored brigade in for urban pacification. That's infantry not tanks. It threatened Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iran because they didn't know what we were gonna do next.
The US also has the Petro dollar agreement. In the US does sell a lot of weapons to Saudi Arabia and has basically been helping to host a genocide in Yemen wage of proxy war with Iran.

Also, the US has military bases in Saudi Arabia…

 

[Homo erectus]

I am trying to figure out how many great resets (and new world orders) there have been since those tourist sites in Greece were built.

 

[DarkRange55]

I am trying to figure out how many great resets (and new world orders) there have been since those tourist sites in Greece were built.

Great reset… What a pretty little phrase…

 

[untothedepths]

I'm not sure about the NWO theory. Seems too grandiose. I think it's the "Club" and about 99% of people aren't apart of it. SImply: Powerful/Absurdly Wealthy people controlling and owning the world and fuck everyone else.

 

[leavingthesoultrap]

I don't believe in exactly that.
But it's evident that we are ruled by families that are operating behind the scenes.