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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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In terms of forming a support network of people. I think the ideal is that you genuinely start to feel better and, you're grateful to have those people in your life.

What if you don't though? What if all you've ended up doing is inviting people you used to know or have recently met to care and worry about you- so they now become a bunch of unwanted tethers to this life? That's why in part, I think I have no real interest in therapy or 'recovery'. It kind of seems like baiting a trap for myself, walking directly into it and then, cursing that I ever got persuaded into trying it.

I feel like the intentions are probably good- that forming a social support network would genuinely help but I also wonder whether there is an underhanded side to it too. That- even if the person doesn't feel better, now they may at least feel too guilty to commit suicide because of the impact it will now have on these newly refreshed/ developed relationships.

It feels underhand in the same way that suicide prevention does. On the face of it- it's the whole- we don't want you doing anything rash. We're trying to protect you from your impulsive selves. On the other though, I don't think they entirely care that people will resort to extremely risky and sometimes brutal methods because- they'll likely fail and hey- the person may be maimed but- they're still alive- right? So long as they're alive- who cares what state they're in? You've done your job. Pat on the back.
 
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Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
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The concept of recovery doesn't seem all that shady to me, as long as the person doing the recovery isn't so bad themselves. Although I guess if that's the case like it is for me then it does feel kind of selfish and evil just to recover knowing people will have to be exposed to me and likely used by me somehow just so I can feel better…
 
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ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
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Yeah, I've always seen the concept of recovery as underhanded as the goal isn't necessarily to increase one's quality of life but rather making their issues not severe enough to impact their ability to wage slave. That's what it all boils down to really. Pro lifers don't give a shit if you're struggling immensely but they do give a shit if you aren't being productive enough in life
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
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"Recovery" is - like everything else - a very personal experience and subjective. Depending on what makes us suicidal recovery itself may not be possible.
 
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Emeralds

Student
Aug 29, 2024
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I don't think that encouraging someone to recover is underhanded. I think that most people do mean well and really hope that people will get better and have a good life. I think that people may underestimate the amount of time and effort it takes to recover though ( both the suicidal person as well as their support network).

People shouldn't feel guilty about asking others for help or accepting help if someone offers. If someone is fortunate enough to have people who care about them and are offering to help them, they should take advantage of that. Hopefully they would do the same thing and offer to help someone if the situation was reversed.
 
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