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miauimon

miauimon

Member
Oct 16, 2018
29
I'm just wondering. Because everywhere it says that friends&family shouldn't blame themselves for when it happens because they couldn't have prevented it anyway.
 
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skitliv

skitliv

Le mort joyeux
Jul 11, 2018
485
Yes
 
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Lara Francis

Lara Francis

Enlightened
Jun 30, 2018
1,627
Once someone is fully committed then there' nothing anyone can do to stop your determination to ctb.
 
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Temporarilyabsurd

Temporarilyabsurd

NOISE:signal
Apr 27, 2018
438
That is a very potent question .

Lots of different answers depending on your perspective .

Culture , family , conditioning , politics , religion , wealth ... genes ?
 
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millefeui

Enlightened
Mar 31, 2018
1,034
It is not my fault I was born this way, in this world, in this reality, etc. But it is also not the fault of anyone else.
 
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Temporarilyabsurd

Temporarilyabsurd

NOISE:signal
Apr 27, 2018
438
That is a very potent question .

Lots of different answers depending on your perspective .

Culture , family , conditioning , politics , religion , wealth ... genes ?


The boundaries are fuzzy and stretch from birth to the present.

Sure , we all have responsibility for our own thoughts and feelings TODAY , but how did we develop those ?

what were we mirroring ?

Why did we develop suicidal ideation ?

Why was that such a great idea ?

My harshest judgement on myself is that as a young person in my teens I felt so disempowered , bullied and oppressed that ( on reflection ) eliminating myself was the only thing that I felt I had power over , because everything else was so 'polluted ' with the disagreeable cultural garbage I was filled to the brim with . It was all so toxic I just wanted it all to end .

Participating in the world felt dirty and evil.

I've been trying to figure out why I drew those conclusions for ages .

Intellectually I'm getting a grip , but emotionally I'm still circling that little black hole I formed way back then .
 
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Midnight

Midnight

Beyond solace
Jun 30, 2018
624
Not at all... It's just bad luck.
 
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Schopenhauer

Enlightened
Oct 3, 2018
1,133
It's a mismatch between my psychological makeup and the kind of world we live in. Not anybody's fault, though. And we have to take full responsibility for our choice.
 
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Virgo

Arcanist
Oct 3, 2018
497
As everything has a cause and effect I find the concept of responsibility irrelevant.
 
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Schopenhauer

Enlightened
Oct 3, 2018
1,133
As everything has a cause and effect I find the concept of responsibility irrelevant.

In a physical sense, you're correct. But as far as human interactions go, responsibility is a meaningful concept.
 
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Trashcan

Trashcan

Trash
Aug 31, 2018
1,234
I don't think anyone is responsible.
 
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TheCrow

TheCrow

Invisible Spirit
Sep 26, 2018
802
When I was younger, I would've blamed at least half of it on other people (abusive relationships, etc.). Later, I put more blame on my mental illness, and questioned why I was born with such a disadvantage. Now, I mostly blame myself and my inability to have made enough good decisions to create a life worth living.
 
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Mr2005

Mr2005

Don't shoot the messenger, give me the gun
Sep 25, 2018
3,622
I'm angry at my parents and I 'm angry at the mental health services that they didn't help. No one did. It was down to me and me alone and I didn't do anything so yes it is my fault and I find it hard to live with myself
 
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MKnight

Member
Oct 19, 2018
11
Hmm that's a good question
 
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RM5998

RM5998

Sack of Meat
Sep 3, 2018
2,202
It is not my fault I was born this way, in this world, in this reality, etc. But it is also not the fault of anyone else.

Eloquently put. I do subscribe to the idea there, and that was mostly because not feeling the blame felt good, but there is a lot more that happened after my birth that can majorly be attributed to me in an aggregative sense. And I do accept responsibility (again, in the aggregative sense) for that.
 
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ParamitePie

ParamitePie

Experienced
Oct 11, 2018
218
I'm certain there's a genetic component (family history of mental illness). Furthermore, if my life had gone differently, I likely wouldn't be like this. That said, suicide is an action, and the person who undertakes it is responsible. .
 
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oldgray

oldgray

i wish i'd melt with the snow
Oct 19, 2018
82
it is my fault if i am like this? my parents? maybe society? i don't know, a mix of all of them probably, even if i don't blame anyone in particular but myself.
i like to think that everyone is made to be alive but not everyone is made to live in the world / society as it is now.
 
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