• ⚠️ UK Access Block Notice: Beginning July 1, 2025, this site will no longer be accessible from the United Kingdom. This is a voluntary decision made by the site's administrators. We were not forced or ordered to implement this block.

miauimon

miauimon

Member
Oct 16, 2018
29
I'm just wondering. Because everywhere it says that friends&family shouldn't blame themselves for when it happens because they couldn't have prevented it anyway.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Lost1234, RM5998, Schopenhauer and 2 others
skitliv

skitliv

Le mort joyeux
Jul 11, 2018
484
Yes
 
  • Like
Reactions: lv-gras and jaemus12
Lara Francis

Lara Francis

Enlightened
Jun 30, 2018
1,627
Once someone is fully committed then there' nothing anyone can do to stop your determination to ctb.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ignominia, Maravillosa and lv-gras
Temporarilyabsurd

Temporarilyabsurd

NOISE:signal
Apr 27, 2018
438
That is a very potent question .

Lots of different answers depending on your perspective .

Culture , family , conditioning , politics , religion , wealth ... genes ?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Fcancer, iglooblimp, miauimon and 7 others
M

millefeui

Enlightened
Mar 31, 2018
1,033
It is not my fault I was born this way, in this world, in this reality, etc. But it is also not the fault of anyone else.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Fcancer, RM5998, ignominia and 7 others
Temporarilyabsurd

Temporarilyabsurd

NOISE:signal
Apr 27, 2018
438
That is a very potent question .

Lots of different answers depending on your perspective .

Culture , family , conditioning , politics , religion , wealth ... genes ?


The boundaries are fuzzy and stretch from birth to the present.

Sure , we all have responsibility for our own thoughts and feelings TODAY , but how did we develop those ?

what were we mirroring ?

Why did we develop suicidal ideation ?

Why was that such a great idea ?

My harshest judgement on myself is that as a young person in my teens I felt so disempowered , bullied and oppressed that ( on reflection ) eliminating myself was the only thing that I felt I had power over , because everything else was so 'polluted ' with the disagreeable cultural garbage I was filled to the brim with . It was all so toxic I just wanted it all to end .

Participating in the world felt dirty and evil.

I've been trying to figure out why I drew those conclusions for ages .

Intellectually I'm getting a grip , but emotionally I'm still circling that little black hole I formed way back then .
 
  • Like
Reactions: mwu14, miauimon, ignominia and 2 others
Midnight

Midnight

Beyond solace
Jun 30, 2018
623
Not at all... It's just bad luck.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ForestLove, Sabrina, millefeui and 2 others
S

Schopenhauer

Enlightened
Oct 3, 2018
1,133
It's a mismatch between my psychological makeup and the kind of world we live in. Not anybody's fault, though. And we have to take full responsibility for our choice.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Fcancer, Maravillosa and miauimon
V

Virgo

Arcanist
Oct 3, 2018
497
As everything has a cause and effect I find the concept of responsibility irrelevant.
 
  • Like
Reactions: wxtyubidi7y, lv-gras and Schopenhauer
S

Schopenhauer

Enlightened
Oct 3, 2018
1,133
As everything has a cause and effect I find the concept of responsibility irrelevant.

In a physical sense, you're correct. But as far as human interactions go, responsibility is a meaningful concept.
 
  • Like
Reactions: miauimon, DeathBecomesMe and Virgo
Trashcan

Trashcan

Trash
Aug 31, 2018
1,233
I don't think anyone is responsible.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Maravillosa and Schopenhauer
TheCrow

TheCrow

Invisible Spirit
Sep 26, 2018
802
When I was younger, I would've blamed at least half of it on other people (abusive relationships, etc.). Later, I put more blame on my mental illness, and questioned why I was born with such a disadvantage. Now, I mostly blame myself and my inability to have made enough good decisions to create a life worth living.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Fcancer, RM5998, Maravillosa and 2 others
Mr2005

Mr2005

Don't shoot the messenger, give me the gun
Sep 25, 2018
3,621
I'm angry at my parents and I 'm angry at the mental health services that they didn't help. No one did. It was down to me and me alone and I didn't do anything so yes it is my fault and I find it hard to live with myself
 
  • Like
Reactions: miauimon
M

MKnight

Member
Oct 19, 2018
11
Hmm that's a good question
 
  • Like
Reactions: lv-gras
RM5998

RM5998

Sack of Meat
Sep 3, 2018
2,201
It is not my fault I was born this way, in this world, in this reality, etc. But it is also not the fault of anyone else.

Eloquently put. I do subscribe to the idea there, and that was mostly because not feeling the blame felt good, but there is a lot more that happened after my birth that can majorly be attributed to me in an aggregative sense. And I do accept responsibility (again, in the aggregative sense) for that.
 
  • Like
Reactions: lv-gras
ParamitePie

ParamitePie

Experienced
Oct 11, 2018
218
I'm certain there's a genetic component (family history of mental illness). Furthermore, if my life had gone differently, I likely wouldn't be like this. That said, suicide is an action, and the person who undertakes it is responsible. .
 
  • Like
Reactions: Fcancer, lv-gras, RM5998 and 1 other person
oldgray

oldgray

i wish i'd melt with the snow
Oct 19, 2018
82
it is my fault if i am like this? my parents? maybe society? i don't know, a mix of all of them probably, even if i don't blame anyone in particular but myself.
i like to think that everyone is made to be alive but not everyone is made to live in the world / society as it is now.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Maravillosa

Similar threads

trying ungracefully
Replies
1
Views
94
Recovery
INYGTRMTFMO
INYGTRMTFMO
N
Replies
0
Views
22
Offtopic
noname223
N
Dante_
Replies
0
Views
130
Suicide Discussion
Dante_
Dante_
W
Replies
10
Views
198
Suicide Discussion
WonderWhatsOutThere
W