Does the mossad blackmail American politicians to aid Israel?

[noname223]

Just asking.

 

[Pessimist]

Probably not. A lot of American politicians are simply ideological Christian Zionists. Others might feel presurred to support Israel because of strong groups like AIPAC and CUFI. There's also a group of left-wing anti-Zionists in the Democratic Party, but they are the minority. The US does seem to have fascist tendencies and progressives are considered too far-left in the country. Republican anti-Zionists also exist (think Thomas Massie), but they are even a smaller minority.

 

[Ferdinand Bardamu]

Maybe not black mailing in the traditional sense, but through AIBAC and others, they bribe politicians to support Israel. Frankly, I think they'd still support Israel whether they got Israeli shekels or not, simply due to the amount of Evangelicals.

 

[DarkRange55]

The "Unfortunate" or the Lavon affair

The Lavon affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, codenamed Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the summer of 1954

archives.mod.gov.il

https://archive.fo/2024.06.09-110835/https://www.haaretz.com/2007-10-04/ty-article/israeli-communications-said-to-prove-iaf-knew-liberty-was-u-s-ship/0000017f-e160-d38f-a57f-e772c2610000

The framing on the second article may not be 100% correct

 

[tormentedhusk]

Just asking.

Israel exercises control over American politicians through financial payments, and kompromat.

 

[DarkRange55]

Does the Mossad blackmail American politicians to aid Israel?

Almost certainly.

Israel exercises control over American politicians through financial payments, and kompromat.

That's my understanding.

Maybe not black mailing in the traditional sense,

Not JUST black mailing in the traditional sense...

but through AIBAC, CUFI and others, they bribe politicians to support Israel. Frankly, I think they'd still support Israel whether they got Israeli shekels or not, simply due to the amount of Evangelicals.

Some would, but bribes and blackmail probably tip the balance for some.

 

[Dejected 55]

I mean, maybe... sure... but also some people are just horrible and only care about themselves and fuck everyone else. So does Israel blackmail vulnerable politicians to get their way? I wouldn't bet against it... but are they also giving money or stuff to people who just don't give a fuck but like money? I'd bet on that too.

 

[DarkRange55]

Jonathan Pollard - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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[JealousOfTheElderly]

Simply put, yes. Boomer right wingers believe Izrahyell is our greatest ally. Everyone else sees what's going on and begins to notice who is running corporations, banks, the music industry and now getting us to go to war for them. The noticing will continue.

 

[DarkRange55]

MTG Moves To Strike Half-Billion Of Military Aid To 'Nuclear-Armed Israel' | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[EternalShore]

It's also partially because AIPAC isn't registered as a foreign lobby, so they can basically bribe politicians with as much money for their re-election funds as they want~ additionally, many American evangelicals believe that the Jews are God's chosen people which makes them want to support Israel too, which means that many Republicans are pro-Israel in order to appease those people too~

In other news, my dad does say this is the reason why Trump isn't releasing Epstein's List despite claiming he would~

 

[DarkRange55]

It is partially true that the Israeli lobby does exist. Just like every other lobby in the US government. Every major corporation has a say. It's not just the Israelis. Trump doesn't want a nuclear war in the middle east which would destroy the global economy and result in massive hyperinflation in addition to the loss of tens of millions of lives. Iran hates the West. Iran hates Israel. The reasons are very complex. But basically it is a fundamentalist islamic government that rules Iran. And if you're a religious fundamentalist, Western values are kind of disgusting and degenerate. And I from a non-religious standpoint actually agree to an extent with the critiques of Western culture. The Iranian government is fundamentally opposed to the West and they see the West as colonists and imperialists. And they see Israel as a colony of the West, of the United States. And because of that they are opposed to Israel and they are sick of being exploited and controlled by foreign powers. Can you really blame them? So because of all this, they're tired of the influence. And the best way to have leverage is to have nuclear weapons. If you have a nuke, you got a lot more say in global affairs, than if you don't. Because you can inflict massive devastation on your enemies. Now let's look at from the Western perspective. Israel has a bunch of nukes. Iran is trying to get nukes. If Iran gets a nuke, they could potentially target Israel. That would probably be their first target. And then after Israel they could potentially have other targets (e.g., Europe, US). And nobody wants big boom-boom bombs to go off in Israel or the US. If you're a rational person and you're from the West and you want to lookout for the interests of the West, you don't want any nukes going off in Israel. Which basically is the US's colony and aircraft carrier in the Middle East. Iran has many times said that they fundamentally hate the West. The US government is not going to let their colony of Israel be threatened or let Iran potentially use that nuclear weapon. Israel is a very important player in the Middle East and to America. Israel is supremely important to the American both on strategic grounds and on religious grounds. Most Christians are actually pro-Jew. Jesus was a jew. Christianity and Judaism are very closely linked. And because of that and because Christianity is kind of descendent in a way from Judaism, a lot of Americans are pro-Jew and pro-Israel. Especially the religious Americans. So for both strategic and religious reasons, America is always going to back Israel. America is not owned by Israel. America owns Israel. The US gives them money, the US supports them for American interests. Thats the truth. If we didn't have any religious ties and the US didn't really need Israel, America wouldn't support them at all.
Don't want a nuclear war in the middle east, don't want a nuclear bomb going off in America, or Europe, whatever. That is a possibility if Iran can develop nuclear weapons. As a nation you have to protect your peoples interests. Does America always do that? No. But America gives the Israelis money, the Israelis fight the Americans wars for them, and then when the US needs to they fly some bombers, nobody (Americans) die, they drops some bombs, and fly away.


TL;DR Israel is a very important strategic parter for America and there are a lot of religious ties and that's not gonna change.