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LaVieEnRose

LaVieEnRose

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Jul 23, 2022
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Look around wherever you are and contemplate whatever people or organisms or objects are around you. Interact with them in some way for a bit. It seems pretty common sense that these beings and things exist independently of our minds, that is, a strict solipsistic view isn't correct.

But at the same time we can also say that things exist as a function of our brain's interpretation of the physical signals our sense organs perceive.

As far as I can see the Universe exists both outside of our mind and only as part of it at the same time.
 
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CTB Dream

CTB Dream

Injury damage disabl hard talk no argu make fun et
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This prdx exist same no exist tell how math, universe all contain this no separate, say X exist this time deteriorate X = not X prdx
 
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Forever Sleep

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It's like that saying: "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" It's a very arrogant assertion isn't it that living things- especially humans need to bear witness for things to be real?!!

Still- we can only understand the world through our own perception of it. Like you say- the world clearly continues to exist with or without us but our own version of the world can't.

What I find even stranger is this idea of mental illness. At what stage does my perception of my life become 'wrong' or 'ill' or 'distorted'? Enough to say that I am no longer perceiving the world in a 'normal' or 'healthy' way? I'm surely still getting the same or similar visual, auditory and olfactory cues as everyone else but I am interpreting them differently. Why is my reality any less real or true than someone elses?

Surely- it's preference at the end of the day. Is it compulsory to like things? I suppose it isn't normal to start disliking or not caring about things you used to like. Still- it's not impossible. People's tastes change. Sorry- I'm on one of my regular- is depression an illness? Rants! I know that's going off topic... Sorry!
 
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R. A.

R. A.

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We are each simultaneously both a part of, and the totality of, the entire universe...
 
Pluto

Pluto

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Carrot

Carrot

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What I find even stranger is this idea of mental illness. At what stage does my perception of my life become 'wrong' or 'ill' or 'distorted'? Enough to say that I am no longer perceiving the world in a 'normal' or 'healthy' way? I'm surely still getting the same or similar visual, auditory and olfactory cues as everyone else but I am interpreting them differently. Why is my reality any less real or true than someone elses?
Strange, isn't it?

I think it's different for something more "objective" like schizofremia where on undenably sees the world differently.

I see all the wars, exploitation, evil, am I supposed to ignore all this? I am unable to accept this, but also cannot do much about it. But I'm the weird one, apparently. Good for someone if they can just live ignorantly, I cannot.
Did you ever make a post without an image? I like the uniquness of your posts, just wondering.
 
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LaVieEnRose

LaVieEnRose

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Did you ever make a post without an image? I like the uniquness of your posts, just wondering.
Believe it or not, there was a time when his erudition flowed like the Mississippi in spring. In fact, now that this thread was revived, I will admit, I was ecstatic when @Pluto originally liked this post. To have a philosophical post of mine be validated like that, well, it felt like I had reached a new level on this forum. Like unlocking a hidden achievement.
 
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