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Hey Germans of SS, I doubt that many of you read this and/or care to answer this thread, but I rly ask myself how you guys judge the current situation in our country in general. You know, the rise of populist and anti-democratic parties and stuff, but also other things, Iam open for discussion and hearing your takes. (if anyone answers lol)
 
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They suck, in my opinion. Especially with the rising of the AfD, it's pretty concerning. I'm still shocked that our country has to DEBATE on whether or not to make this party illegal, I mean, every reason to do so is right infront of their eyes.
I also started disliking the CDU as well as the SPD, I feel like you can't vote for any party anymore, all of them have to have atleast one or more concerning points.

It's kinda sad.
 
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They suck, in my opinion. Especially with the rising of the AfD, it's pretty concerning. I'm still shocked that our country has to DEBATE on whether or not to make this party illegal, I mean, every reason to do so is right infront of their eyes.
I also started disliking the CDU as well as the SPD, I feel like you can't vote for any party anymore, all of them have to have atleast one or more concerning points.

It's kinda sad.
I get that and I totally agree with your point on the AfD, I mean, they dont even try to hide their true intentions nowadays. But about your point on other parties, what would you want from or demand of them?
 
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I get that and I totally agree with your point on the AfD, I mean, they dont even try to hide their true intentions nowadays. But about your point on other parties, what would you want from or demand of them?
I'm genuinely scared that the AfD will rise to power at some point, which it already seems to be doing in some parts in Germany, atleast from what I heard.

I don't really demand anything from them, but to me they just don't look like parties I'd vote for. Honestly, I don't really know what I want, but I also do know what I wouldn't vote for. I think my biggest issue is the fact that all these parties are pro israel but that's just how Germany is in general.

If I would have to vote for one party though, I believe I'd either vote for "Die Partei", "Die Linke" or even "BΓΌndnis Deutschland"
 
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I'm genuinely scared that the AfD will rise to power at some point, which it already seems to be doing in some parts in Germany, atleast from what I heard.

I don't really demand anything from them, but to me they just don't look like parties I'd vote for. Honestly, I don't really know what I want, but I also do know what I wouldn't vote for. I think my biggest issue is the fact that all these parties are pro israel but that's just how Germany is in general.

If I would have to vote for one party though, I believe I'd either vote for "Die Partei", "Die Linke" or even "BΓΌndnis Deutschland"
Yeah, the rise of the AfD sickens me too, but you canΒ΄t just judge a party for its stance on Israel, I mean they all have more points then that. In the end politics is about making compromises, one will never find a political party, which represents his opinion 100%. I, for example, am an SPD voter, but I donΒ΄t rly agree on everything they do.
 
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Yeah, the rise of the AfD sickens me too, but you canΒ΄t just judge a party for its stance on Israel, I mean they all have more points then that. In the end politics is about making compromises, one will never find a political party, which represents his opinion 100%. I, for example, am an SPD voter, but I donΒ΄t rly agree on everything they do.
Yea exactly! That's me with "Die Partei" and "Die Linke", they're really cool parties in my opinion and parties I'd vote for aswell.
I used to vote for the SPD, but I kinda stopped.
And, yeah, of course you cant judge a party by their stance on Israel, but some parties tend to make it one of their main priorities and that just kinda bugs me.
 
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Yea exactly! That's me with "Die Partei" and "Die Linke", they're really cool parties in my opinion and parties I'd vote for aswell.
I used to vote for the SPD, but I kinda stopped.
And, yeah, of course you cant judge a party by their stance on Israel, but some parties tend to make it one of their main priorities and that just kinda bugs me.
Why did you turn away from them and why "Die Partei", they are just comedians afterall? Just curious
 
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Why did you turn away from them and why "Die Partei", they are just comedians afterall? Just curious
I kind of like their election program a lot 😭
but as i said my two other options would be "Die Linke" and "BΓΌndnis Deutschland"

I don't really know exactly why I turned away from them, it just didn't look like the right party for me anymore

anything is better than AfD tho πŸ˜”βœŠ
 
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I kind of like their election program a lot 😭
but as i said my two other options would be "Die Linke" and "BΓΌndnis Deutschland"

I don't really know exactly why I turned away from them, it just didn't look like the right party for me anymore

anything is better than AfD tho πŸ˜”βœŠ
Hm, yeah. I can get that. Wanna continue writing via private chat?
 
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I am a socialdemocrat and I am scared that Friedrich Merz will become the next chancellor. I hate the AfD but my dad votes for it. I am disappointed by Scholz. Personally, I dislike Boris Pistorius but I want that the SPD wins the next election I would give him a shot. But this probably won't happen.
 
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I'm still shocked that our country has to DEBATE on whether or not to make this party illegal, I mean, every reason to do so is right infront of their eyes.
Do you not think this would be undemocratic?
 
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Do you not think this would be undemocratic?
i thought about this question a lot cause i kept asking myself the same thing and for a party like AfD, I don't think it would be undemocratic. something has to stop the kind of stuff theyre doing/saying.
 
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They'll never be good as the Austrian Painter.
 
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They'll never be good as the Austrian Painter.
13 year old ahh humor
Do you not think this would be undemocratic?
Bro, the antidemocrats are the AfD, they are the ones who want to undermine democratic institutions and to abolish the liberties and freedoms we hold so dear. ItΒ΄s not antidemocratic to prohibit a party from taking part in the democratic process, if said party tries to turn the clocks back to 1933
I am a socialdemocrat and I am scared that Friedrich Merz will become the next chancellor. I hate the AfD but my dad votes for it. I am disappointed by Scholz. Personally, I dislike Boris Pistorius but I want that the SPD wins the next election I would give him a shot. But this probably won't happen.
I get that, Iam disappointed by Olaf Scholz aswell, this guy just doesnΒ΄t do anything, I mean, what does he even stand for, he cant even get his Government together without the Liberals and Greens fighting every 5 Minutes, which is sad, because the current Government has already done many good things for this country, if they didnt fight all the time. they could achieve even more! I share your fear of Merz aswell, this guy is such an idiot like, does bro rly think he can win back the AfD Voters by picking up the AfD rethoric and if you look into the values this man stands for, abolishment of worker rights, turning down rights for women, less taxes for the rich, an anti-imigrant domestic policy, etc., this guy is just madddd. But why do you hold a grudge against Boris Pistorius though?
 
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I don't live in Germany, but I have a friend who's living in Germany, and as someone who's informing himself about the politics of many countries, I can tell you that the entire politics in Germany suck and are US boot licking dogs. CDU, SPD, FDP, AFD, etc, they all suck ass and are genocidal assholes.

There are over 8 billion people on this planet and 7 billion of them recognize Palestine as a country, except USA, Germany, and a few other counting in the west.
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Germany is deep inside Israel's ass, like USA, and justifies the genocide in Gaza and Lebanon with "self defense". Also, speaking against the genocide is illegal in Germany and you have to recognize Israel in order to be able to apply for a German citizenship.
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Do you know what Germany did when they found out that USA and Ukraine blew up the Nord Stream Pipelines? Nothing. Not a goddamn thing. Instead, Federal President Steinmeier has bestowed Biden the highest Order of Merit of the Federal Republic of Germany.

Absolutely pathetic. No wonder that the economy in Germany has only been going down since years. It hasn't been a independent country since WW2. It's just another US lapdog.
 
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I don't live in Germany, but I have a friend who's living in Germany, and as someone who's informing himself about the politics of many countries, I can tell you that the entire politics in Germany suck and are US boot licking dogs. CDU, SPD, FDP, AFD, etc, they all suck ass and are genocidal assholes.

There are over 8 billion people on this planet and 7 billion of them recognize Palestine as a country, except USA, Germany, and a few other counting in the west.
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Germany is deep inside Israel's ass, like USA, and justifies the genocide in Gaza and Lebanon with "self defense". Also, speaking against the genocide is illegal in Germany and you have to recognize Israel in order to be able to apply for a German citizenship.
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Do you know what Germany did when they found out that USA and Ukraine blew up the Nord Stream Pipelines? Nothing. Not a goddamn thing. Instead, Federal President Steinmeier has bestowed Biden the highest Order of Merit of the Federal Republic of Germany.

Absolutely pathetic. No wonder that the economy in Germany has only been going down since years. It hasn't been a independent country since WW2. It's just another US lapdog.

Not the Russian Bootlicker again, man 😩
So, idk where you are from, man and idk why you are spouting out this much nonsense. Where the hell is Germany a "Lapdog" of the USA, what are you talking about?Give me one example where you can see that Germany is a US "Lapdog" as you say, and dont start with Nordstream, the reason there hasnt been any consequences as of now is, that the investigations havent been completed yet, we dont know if it rly was Ukraine or not, there is a high probability that Russia equipt its Agents with Ukrainian passports to make it look like Ukraine did it and even if the ukrainian government is responsible it wouldnt make much sense to stop supporting their war effort, the consequences for that would need to be taken at something else. You act like, its the West, which started the War in Ukraine, but its the Russians, who invaded this independent country, did you forget that so quickly?

I also like how you take this random ass dudes word for "From the river to the sea" statement, I mean, who even is that? Even if this statement would get you banned or rejected from a German citizenshiptest, it would be for good reason, because quotes like this have been used by Islamist terrorists (who btw started this war in the Middle East, not Isreal) to deny the existential right of Isreal, something which should not be up for debate.

You probably wont respond to this, but I felt like I had to say something against this pile of Bullshit you posted
 
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Not the Russian Bootlicker again, man
Not the Zionist/Nazi again man.😩

I swear to God, people like you are the worst. You think everyone who isn't pro genocide (Pro USA and Israel) like you are, is automatically Pro Russia.
So, idk where you are from, man and idk why you are spouting out this much nonsense
It's none of your business where I'm from, and unlike you, I've shown proof with photos and videos. You're the only one who's spouting nonsense here and it's no wonder because you live in a country that supports genocide and doesn't acknowledge Palestine, something which over 7 billion people on the planet do. Goi3a9zh6ctd1
Where the hell is Germany a "Lapdog" of the USA, what are you talking about?Give me one example where you can see that Germany is a US "Lapdog" as you say
Are you fucking kidding me? Everyone who isn't a brainwashed Zionist knows that Germany is a puppet state that is being used by USA, just like Israel is used as a puppet state by USA to terrorize othe countries in the middle east, in order to eventually create a "greater Israel". This goes back many decades ago.

Germany are straight up fascists, their news only talk good about Irsael and think that Israel is justified in bombing multiple countries. And no, this doesn't have anything to do with Holocaust guilt. Go read about the Haavara Agreement. It was an agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist German Jews signed on 25 August 1933. Israel is in fact trying to colonize Palestine and probably Lebanon as well.




Germany is a lapdog of the USA for many reasons:

1.Germany is alongside USA one of the few countries who doesn't acknowledge Palestine, and also sends weapons and money to support Israel's genocide against Palestine.

2.The USA wants to start deploying long-range weapons in Germany in 2026.

3.While most of East Germany got denazified by the Soviet Union, the USA never denazified West Germany, and instead gave the Nazis jobs instead of executing them. There's Adolf Bruno Heinrich Ernst Heusinger for example. He was part of Nazi Germany's military and then became chairman of the NATO Military Committee from 1961 to 1964.
and dont start with Nordstream, the reason there hasnt been any consequences as of now is, that the investigations havent been completed yet, we dont know if it rly was Ukraine or not, there is a high probability that Russia equipt its Agents with Ukrainian passports to make it look like Ukraine did it
Jesus Christ, how delusional do you have to be in order to write delusional shit like this. The Nord stream pipeline sabotage was carried out by a small team of divers on the orders of Valeriy Zaluzhniy after the CIA warned Ukraine to stop the operation. It was confirmed that Zelensky approved the operation to blow up Nord Stream.


The reason why the western media doesn't talk about it is the same reason why they're not talking about the genocide committed by Israel, nor about all the american reporters which Israel has killed in the West Bank.


and even if the ukrainian government is responsible it wouldnt make much sense to stop supporting their war effort
1.It's not "even if". The ukrainian government is responsible for it.

2.Sure, let's just throw millions of money and weapons into a black hole. Do you even realize how stupid you sound. Ukraine is a lost cause, they're never going to win, the fact that the TCC is kidnapping male civilians every day and send them to their deaths, says more than enough. Ukraine is a shithole full of nazis with a corrupt government, which doesn't allow the regular men to leave the country.

There are thousands of videos of the TCC in Ukraine beating and kidnapping people.



You could probably scroll down here for hours and you still wouldn't be done:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRus...fd19&iId=371f5022-f790-45a0-a6d1-c1af933ecf5f

Ukraine is known to have a long history with Nazism, as West Ukraine worked together with Nazi Germany for a bit in World War 2, and the current ukrainian army is still full of Nazis.

Ukraine doesn't care about their regular citizens and Zelensky is willing to sacrifice them all in order to weaken Russia, which has been USA's goal for decades. So there is literally no reason to support their war effort.
the consequences for that would need to be taken at something else
Consequences? USA recruited Nazis after World War 2 into NATO, and is helping Israel commit the second Holocaust in Palestine, and you think there will be consequences for the ukrainian government blowing up the Nord Stream pipelines? Lmao.
You act like, its the West, which started the War in Ukraine, but its the Russians, who invaded this independent country, did you forget that so quickly?
1.The West started the war due to the coup that happend in 2014. The cause of the conflict was NATO expansionism. The euromaidan coup of 2014 which essentially flipped Ukraine's government from a Russian-aligned one to an American-aligned one didn't happen in a vacuum, it was funded in large part by the Americans, and there is a leaked phone call from before the coup where the Americans can be heard discussing who would form the next government in Ukraine, like they were drafting a fantasy football team. Who they discussed did end up in power, and the people they talked about negatively did not. This suggests that they had a fairly heavy hand in the transition. After the coup, the Easter ukrainian population (mostly ethnic Russian, speaking Russian, etc.) wanted to secede and form their own state that remained Russian-aligned, and the new Western-backed government didn't want that to happen. So not only was Russia directly combating NATO expansionism, they were also trying to protect and liberate the Donbas region, which was not on board with the plan to align Ukraine with the West. This conflict has been going on since 2014, and there were two original diplomatic "solutions" which were attempted (Minsk 1 and 2). Notably, Ukraine did not uphold their side of either bargain. (Which is why they both failed, and why it's now a hot war)

2.Russia wasn't really left much of a choice. USA and NATO have, for a while, desperately wanted to exert their influence over Ukraine and ignored Russia's protests. So the options left to Russia were to either play ball and watch how another of their neighbours becomes a USA proxy or invade and try to secure a buffer. Had Ukrainian leadership remained neutral (or, at the very least, smart), Russia would have little reason to invade. Their politicians decided to try and join NATO, effectively calling Russia's bluff. Turns out it wasn't a bluff.

3.I'm sorry but if you don't see the problem in the expansion of NATO (who are supporting Israel), then you probably shouldn't say anything. I'm pro-nothing. I don't support any politicans, they're all the same power hungry hypocrites to me. But fact is fact. Uwgpoodqxkrd1
The U.S needs to stop their colonialism. The NATO was created to provide collective security against the Soviet Union. But the Soviet Union has been gone for over 30 years, so why is NATO still a thing? You're naive If you think that Russia wouldn't feel threatened by having a NATO member as a neighbour. Ukraine is a vassal state of western hegemony. How do you think USA would react if Russia supported Mexico? NATO is using Ukraine in order to weaken Russia. They know that Ukraine can't win but they don't care, they will gladly throw the ukrainian people under the bus. There are millions of videos out there of the TCC in Ukraine kidnapping the men and sending them to their deaths.

I don't care about Russia or Putin. My stance is more about siding against the US and NATO expanding their influence. The US/NATO has been the most aggressive bloc destabilizing non-aligned/adversarial countries (Yugoslavia, Iraq x2, Libya, Afghanistan, Syrian civil war, capturing most Arab spring coups, Bolivia, among many other countries overthrown/invaded, sanctions on dozens of countries, massive military drills in South Korea and Taiwan to try to provoke conflict with North Korea and China, etc) not to mention debt trapping much of the developing world and owning large portions of their economies essentially recreating colonial economic relationships. The US/NATO is the biggest threat to world peace and also to communist and left wing governments in the world. Any country that undermines the military dominance of the US/NATO in the world is ultimately weakening the greatest barrier to communist movements in the world.
I also like how you take this random ass dudes word for "From the river to the sea" statement, I mean, who even is that?
He's a Journalist.
Even if this statement would get you banned or rejected from a German citizenshiptest, it would be for good reason
You are disgusting and pro genocide. A country that doesn't acknowledge another country and instead forces their citizens to acknowledge a country which commits genocide, is corrupt as fuck. "Good reason", my ass. There's a good reason why many of the Holocaust survivors are disgusted by the actions of Israel. What Israel is doing to Palestine is no different than what Nazi Germany did to the jews in World War 2.


because quotes like this have been used by Islamist terrorists
Bullshit.

From the river to the sea" is a call for two things:

First, an end to occupation of West Bank and Gaza.

Second, the right of return for all Palestinian refugees driven out of their homes in 1948 (Israel was founded during that time and drove many Palestinians away).

(who btw started this war in the Middle East, not Isreal) to deny the existential right of Isreal, something which should not be up for debate
Shut the fuck up. Israel has been bombing other countries since decades. They started the war in the Middle East many decades ago.



This is Beirut. The year is 1982. There was no organization called Hezbollah at that time. Israel was bombing Lebanon mercilessly 42 years ago. Israel has always been at it their goal has always been Greater Israel to destroy Middle East and then occupy those nations.

They are the ones who deny the existential rights of Palestine, Iran, Lebanon, and Syria, something which shouldn't be up to debate.


You probably wont respond to this, but I felt like I had to say something against this pile of Bullshit you posted
Don't worry, I will always respond to your bullshit, as I stand up for the rights of the oppressed people.

Here's another present to you, a man who demolishes your zionist pile of shit opinion.

 
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Not the Zionist/Nazi again man.😩

I swear to God, people like you are the worst. You think everyone who isn't pro genocide (Pro USA and Israel) like you are, is automatically Pro Russia.

It's none of your business where I'm from, and unlike you, I've shown proof with photos and videos. You're the only one who's spouting nonsense here and it's no wonder because you live in a country that supports genocide and doesn't acknowledge Palestine, something which over 7 billion people on the planet do.View attachment 153559

Are you fucking kidding me? Everyone who isn't a brainwashed Zionist knows that Germany is a puppet state that is being used by USA, just like Israel is used as a puppet state by USA to terrorize othe countries in the middle east, in order to eventually create a "greater Israel". This goes back many decades ago.

Germany are straight up fascists, their news only talk good about Irsael and think that Israel is justified in bombing multiple countries. And no, this doesn't have anything to do with Holocaust guilt. Go read about the Haavara Agreement. It was an agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist German Jews signed on 25 August 1933. Israel is in fact trying to colonize Palestine and probably Lebanon as well.




Germany is a lapdog of the USA for many reasons:

1.Germany is alongside USA one of the few countries who doesn't acknowledge Palestine, and also sends weapons and money to support Israel's genocide against Palestine.

2.The USA wants to start deploying long-range weapons in Germany in 2026.

3.While most of East Germany got denazified by the Soviet Union, the USA never denazified West Germany, and instead gave the Nazis jobs instead of executing them. There's Adolf Bruno Heinrich Ernst Heusinger for example. He was part of Nazi Germany's military and then became chairman of the NATO Military Committee from 1961 to 1964.

Jesus Christ, how delusional do you have to be in order to write delusional shit like this. The Nord stream pipeline sabotage was carried out by a small team of divers on the orders of Valeriy Zaluzhniy after the CIA warned Ukraine to stop the operation. It was confirmed that Zelensky approved the operation to blow up Nord Stream.


The reason why the western media doesn't talk about it is the same reason why they're not talking about the genocide committed by Israel, nor about all the american reporters which Israel has killed in the West Bank.



1.It's not "even if". The ukrainian government is responsible for it.

2.Sure, let's just throw millions of money and weapons into a black hole. Do you even realize how stupid you sound. Ukraine is a lost cause, they're never going to win, the fact that the TCC is kidnapping male civilians every day and send them to their deaths, says more than enough. Ukraine is a shithole full of nazis with a corrupt government, which doesn't allow the regular men to leave the country.

There are thousands of videos of the TCC in Ukraine beating and kidnapping people.



You could probably scroll down here for hours and you still wouldn't be done:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRus...fd19&iId=371f5022-f790-45a0-a6d1-c1af933ecf5f

Ukraine is known to have a long history with Nazism, as West Ukraine worked together with Nazi Germany for a bit in World War 2, and the current ukrainian army is still full of Nazis.

Ukraine doesn't care about their regular citizens and Zelensky is willing to sacrifice them all in order to weaken Russia, which has been USA's goal for decades. So there is literally no reason to support their war effort.

Consequences? USA recruited Nazis after World War 2 into NATO, and is helping Israel commit the second Holocaust in Palestine, and you think there will be consequences for the ukrainian government blowing up the Nord Stream pipelines? Lmao.

1.The West started the war due to the coup that happend in 2014. The cause of the conflict was NATO expansionism. The euromaidan coup of 2014 which essentially flipped Ukraine's government from a Russian-aligned one to an American-aligned one didn't happen in a vacuum, it was funded in large part by the Americans, and there is a leaked phone call from before the coup where the Americans can be heard discussing who would form the next government in Ukraine, like they were drafting a fantasy football team. Who they discussed did end up in power, and the people they talked about negatively did not. This suggests that they had a fairly heavy hand in the transition. After the coup, the Easter ukrainian population (mostly ethnic Russian, speaking Russian, etc.) wanted to secede and form their own state that remained Russian-aligned, and the new Western-backed government didn't want that to happen. So not only was Russia directly combating NATO expansionism, they were also trying to protect and liberate the Donbas region, which was not on board with the plan to align Ukraine with the West. This conflict has been going on since 2014, and there were two original diplomatic "solutions" which were attempted (Minsk 1 and 2). Notably, Ukraine did not uphold their side of either bargain. (Which is why they both failed, and why it's now a hot war)

2.Russia wasn't really left much of a choice. USA and NATO have, for a while, desperately wanted to exert their influence over Ukraine and ignored Russia's protests. So the options left to Russia were to either play ball and watch how another of their neighbours becomes a USA proxy or invade and try to secure a buffer. Had Ukrainian leadership remained neutral (or, at the very least, smart), Russia would have little reason to invade. Their politicians decided to try and join NATO, effectively calling Russia's bluff. Turns out it wasn't a bluff.

3.I'm sorry but if you don't see the problem in the expansion of NATO (who are supporting Israel), then you probably shouldn't say anything. I'm pro-nothing. I don't support any politicans, they're all the same power hungry hypocrites to me. But fact is fact.View attachment 153562
The U.S needs to stop their colonialism. The NATO was created to provide collective security against the Soviet Union. But the Soviet Union has been gone for over 30 years, so why is NATO still a thing? You're naive If you think that Russia wouldn't feel threatened by having a NATO member as a neighbour. Ukraine is a vassal state of western hegemony. How do you think USA would react if Russia supported Mexico? NATO is using Ukraine in order to weaken Russia. They know that Ukraine can't win but they don't care, they will gladly throw the ukrainian people under the bus. There are millions of videos out there of the TCC in Ukraine kidnapping the men and sending them to their deaths.

I don't care about Russia or Putin. My stance is more about siding against the US and NATO expanding their influence. The US/NATO has been the most aggressive bloc destabilizing non-aligned/adversarial countries (Yugoslavia, Iraq x2, Libya, Afghanistan, Syrian civil war, capturing most Arab spring coups, Bolivia, among many other countries overthrown/invaded, sanctions on dozens of countries, massive military drills in South Korea and Taiwan to try to provoke conflict with North Korea and China, etc) not to mention debt trapping much of the developing world and owning large portions of their economies essentially recreating colonial economic relationships. The US/NATO is the biggest threat to world peace and also to communist and left wing governments in the world. Any country that undermines the military dominance of the US/NATO in the world is ultimately weakening the greatest barrier to communist movements in the world.

He's a Journalist.

You are disgusting and pro genocide. A country that doesn't acknowledge another country and instead forces their citizens to acknowledge a country which commits genocide, is corrupt as fuck. "Good reason", my ass. There's a good reason why many of the Holocaust survivors are disgusted by the actions of Israel. What Israel is doing to Palestine is no different than what Nazi Germany did to the jews in World War 2.



Bullshit.

From the river to the sea" is a call for two things:

First, an end to occupation of West Bank and Gaza.

Second, the right of return for all Palestinian refugees driven out of their homes in 1948 (Israel was founded during that time and drove many Palestinians away).


Shut the fuck up. Israel has been bombing other countries since decades. They started the war in the Middle East many decades ago.



This is Beirut. The year is 1982. There was no organization called Hezbollah at that time. Israel was bombing Lebanon mercilessly 42 years ago. Israel has always been at it their goal has always been Greater Israel to destroy Middle East and then occupy those nations.

They are the ones who deny the existential rights of Palestine, Iran, Lebanon, and Syria, something which shouldn't be up to debate.



Don't worry, I will always respond to your bullshit, as I stand up for the rights of the oppressed people.

Here's another present to you, a man who demolishes your zionist pile of shit opinion.


Bro wrote a whole ass essay
Where do I even start with this? Firstup, Iam not gonna get called a NAZI by some random ass dude on a suicide forum, if you would have read any of my other posts on this thread, you would have seen that I despise all forms of facism/national socialism and I also like, how half of your "proof" is just reddit links, like bro, anyone can post anything on there and naive guys like you are the ones believing it.
So firstup, our news arent only talking good about Isreal, they also report critical about them, like bro, the news feed YOU YOURSELF linked about the "From the river to the sea" is a STATE SPONSERED news outlet, so again, what are you talking about? The Haavara Agreement was part of the Nazi german 2 sided foreign policy, pretend to act peaceful and diplomatic for your own propaganda, but act militaristic and hostile in reality and this is exactly what happened, not even a decade later the Nazis exterminated the Jewish ethnicity from Europe, killed over 6 Million of them, the biggest genocide in human history ffs.

And about your "reason" of Germany being a lapdog of America:
Germany has a historic responsibility towards Isreal and not acknowledging a terrorist state like the Hamas led Palestinia, who would love to wipe the Isrealian people and the jewish race off of the earth (and again, started the war back in October 2023), is part of this responsibility.

And yes, the Americans want to deploy weapons in our country, because we are allied to them. Germany being allied with another democracy isnt being a lapdog, its cooperation between 2 states of the free world. If our government choose to reject this deployment or choose not to help the US, like we did back when the USA invaded Iraq (Germany didnt send in any troops and didnt support America in the slightest), then the Americans would need to accept that, Germany isnt a puppet of the USA. And let me remind you, why the rockets get deployed in the first place: Russian aggression in Ukraine. They were the ones who are against a peaceful Europe, they are the ones who started a full stage war in Europe since the end of WW2. And dont get me wrong, the Americans also did bad things in the past, like invading countries for no good reason, but trying to apologize the Russian crimes and offensive war, which has already cost over 500.000 people their lives is just plain messed up. You also mentioned the TCC recruting young Ukrainians, who dont want to die and are afraid to fight, but you seem to forget who is responsible for this to happen, not the "Nazi government" in Kiew (led by a Jew, btw, so you saying that they are Nazis made me laugh out loud), but by the real facists in Moscow, who force their youth to die in a land, they never would have invaded themselves, forcing them to invade and kill their Slavic Brothers in Ukraine. Tell me, how many people young Russians do you think get chased down by Russian recruitment officers and forced to fight? Defending Ukraine means defending ourselfs, because if Russia wins the Ukrainian war, they will rebuild their army and invade NATO at some point and I dont want that to happen, because if this takes place, WW3 will be inevitable. And I also wont stand for looking away, when Russia is waging war on a free, democratic country, with their own cultures, people, traditions, dont you think that they dont have a right to exist, that they dont have a right to live in freedom and peace, because this wont be possible if Russia wins this war, look at what the Russians already did to the Ukrainian people in the past century or so, do you want that to happen again? You stated, that Europe is a Puppet of the USA, even if this were to be true, id much rather be a puppet of the americans, where I and everybody else can live out their lifes in peace, freedom and safety, in a state, which not I serve, but serves me and lets me do whatever I want, aslong as I dont hurt others while doing so, than being a puppet of the Russians. Again, look at what the UdSSR did back in the 20th century to keep the Warsaw Pact at bay, they suppressed uprising in the entire eastern bloc, with tanks, soldiers, martial law, when did the Americans ever do anything like that to their european allies, did the Americans ever need to declare martial law in a country, like the Soviets did in Poland in 1981-83, did the Americans ever need tanks and soldiers to suppress uprisings like the Soviets did in Hungary, East Germany, Czeckoslowakia? This the reason, why NATO accepted new members in eastern europe after the UdSSR collapsed in 91. Yes, accepted, countries like Poland, Romania, Hungaria, Czechia, Slowakia all these former soviet satilite states WANTED to join Nato, they wanted protection of the free west (Natos article 5), to make sure they would NEVER be suppressed again. you blamed me for not using sources, so Iam just leaving this video link here, it proves my point and might also change your mind, because as of now, Iam not the one who is pro genocide, but you are, just apologizing everything the Kremlin does, for what?


The bold claim you made about denazification you made about Germany, just proves you arent from Germany, lol. The Soviets never Denazified, in fact, 27 % of the members of the East German communist party were former NSDAP members, so once more, what are you talking about? Yes, the Westernes didnt denazify aswell in the beginning, and many got away unscathed, like you rightfully mentioned, but in the 60s investigations began and West Germany started to work up their National socialist past, this is why the Third Reich still plays such a big role in German history classes and German culture to this day. In East Germany, this never happened, the Nazi past was just hushed up and never worked up, the Nazis there never left or "changed their minds", like it happened in the West, they just stayed there for decades and hid and are still there today. This is one of the reasons far right parties are so strong in Eastern Germany now and not in the West.

And the reason why Nato still exists is on hand, its, once more, russian aggression, NATO members need to protect oneanother if they are attacked, this makes sure that tiny and relatively weak countries can still exist, still live out their way of lives without fearing that they are invaded by some authoritarian state, who wants to suppress them, how foolish can you be, man???? The truth lies right infront of you, you just need to look at what is going on in the world right now, is obvious that you dont care about Russia or Putin, otherwise you wouldnt make such a fool and laughing stock out of your self. Be happy, that nobody you know irl is reading your post, its totally embarassing and, to be frank, super disrespectful, you should be ashamed of yourself! Maybe spend less time on SS, but more in real life, maybe get your information from more reliable sources then some pro Russian subreddits and maybe just maybe dont just insult someone, who has a different point of view, then you do, as soon as you start insulting someone, thats the point where you immediately lose an argument!
 
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Warum alles in Englisch? :D
 
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Not the Zionist/Nazi again man.😩

I swear to God, people like you are the worst. You think everyone who isn't pro genocide (Pro USA and Israel) like you are, is automatically Pro Russia.

It's none of your business where I'm from, and unlike you, I've shown proof with photos and videos. You're the only one who's spouting nonsense here and it's no wonder because you live in a country that supports genocide and doesn't acknowledge Palestine, something which over 7 billion people on the planet do.View attachment 153559

Are you fucking kidding me? Everyone who isn't a brainwashed Zionist knows that Germany is a puppet state that is being used by USA, just like Israel is used as a puppet state by USA to terrorize othe countries in the middle east, in order to eventually create a "greater Israel". This goes back many decades ago.

Germany are straight up fascists, their news only talk good about Irsael and think that Israel is justified in bombing multiple countries. And no, this doesn't have anything to do with Holocaust guilt. Go read about the Haavara Agreement. It was an agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist German Jews signed on 25 August 1933. Israel is in fact trying to colonize Palestine and probably Lebanon as well.




Germany is a lapdog of the USA for many reasons:

1.Germany is alongside USA one of the few countries who doesn't acknowledge Palestine, and also sends weapons and money to support Israel's genocide against Palestine.

2.The USA wants to start deploying long-range weapons in Germany in 2026.

3.While most of East Germany got denazified by the Soviet Union, the USA never denazified West Germany, and instead gave the Nazis jobs instead of executing them. There's Adolf Bruno Heinrich Ernst Heusinger for example. He was part of Nazi Germany's military and then became chairman of the NATO Military Committee from 1961 to 1964.

Jesus Christ, how delusional do you have to be in order to write delusional shit like this. The Nord stream pipeline sabotage was carried out by a small team of divers on the orders of Valeriy Zaluzhniy after the CIA warned Ukraine to stop the operation. It was confirmed that Zelensky approved the operation to blow up Nord Stream.


The reason why the western media doesn't talk about it is the same reason why they're not talking about the genocide committed by Israel, nor about all the american reporters which Israel has killed in the West Bank.



1.It's not "even if". The ukrainian government is responsible for it.

2.Sure, let's just throw millions of money and weapons into a black hole. Do you even realize how stupid you sound. Ukraine is a lost cause, they're never going to win, the fact that the TCC is kidnapping male civilians every day and send them to their deaths, says more than enough. Ukraine is a shithole full of nazis with a corrupt government, which doesn't allow the regular men to leave the country.

There are thousands of videos of the TCC in Ukraine beating and kidnapping people.



You could probably scroll down here for hours and you still wouldn't be done:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRus...fd19&iId=371f5022-f790-45a0-a6d1-c1af933ecf5f

Ukraine is known to have a long history with Nazism, as West Ukraine worked together with Nazi Germany for a bit in World War 2, and the current ukrainian army is still full of Nazis.

Ukraine doesn't care about their regular citizens and Zelensky is willing to sacrifice them all in order to weaken Russia, which has been USA's goal for decades. So there is literally no reason to support their war effort.

Consequences? USA recruited Nazis after World War 2 into NATO, and is helping Israel commit the second Holocaust in Palestine, and you think there will be consequences for the ukrainian government blowing up the Nord Stream pipelines? Lmao.

1.The West started the war due to the coup that happend in 2014. The cause of the conflict was NATO expansionism. The euromaidan coup of 2014 which essentially flipped Ukraine's government from a Russian-aligned one to an American-aligned one didn't happen in a vacuum, it was funded in large part by the Americans, and there is a leaked phone call from before the coup where the Americans can be heard discussing who would form the next government in Ukraine, like they were drafting a fantasy football team. Who they discussed did end up in power, and the people they talked about negatively did not. This suggests that they had a fairly heavy hand in the transition. After the coup, the Easter ukrainian population (mostly ethnic Russian, speaking Russian, etc.) wanted to secede and form their own state that remained Russian-aligned, and the new Western-backed government didn't want that to happen. So not only was Russia directly combating NATO expansionism, they were also trying to protect and liberate the Donbas region, which was not on board with the plan to align Ukraine with the West. This conflict has been going on since 2014, and there were two original diplomatic "solutions" which were attempted (Minsk 1 and 2). Notably, Ukraine did not uphold their side of either bargain. (Which is why they both failed, and why it's now a hot war)

2.Russia wasn't really left much of a choice. USA and NATO have, for a while, desperately wanted to exert their influence over Ukraine and ignored Russia's protests. So the options left to Russia were to either play ball and watch how another of their neighbours becomes a USA proxy or invade and try to secure a buffer. Had Ukrainian leadership remained neutral (or, at the very least, smart), Russia would have little reason to invade. Their politicians decided to try and join NATO, effectively calling Russia's bluff. Turns out it wasn't a bluff.

3.I'm sorry but if you don't see the problem in the expansion of NATO (who are supporting Israel), then you probably shouldn't say anything. I'm pro-nothing. I don't support any politicans, they're all the same power hungry hypocrites to me. But fact is fact.View attachment 153562
The U.S needs to stop their colonialism. The NATO was created to provide collective security against the Soviet Union. But the Soviet Union has been gone for over 30 years, so why is NATO still a thing? You're naive If you think that Russia wouldn't feel threatened by having a NATO member as a neighbour. Ukraine is a vassal state of western hegemony. How do you think USA would react if Russia supported Mexico? NATO is using Ukraine in order to weaken Russia. They know that Ukraine can't win but they don't care, they will gladly throw the ukrainian people under the bus. There are millions of videos out there of the TCC in Ukraine kidnapping the men and sending them to their deaths.

I don't care about Russia or Putin. My stance is more about siding against the US and NATO expanding their influence. The US/NATO has been the most aggressive bloc destabilizing non-aligned/adversarial countries (Yugoslavia, Iraq x2, Libya, Afghanistan, Syrian civil war, capturing most Arab spring coups, Bolivia, among many other countries overthrown/invaded, sanctions on dozens of countries, massive military drills in South Korea and Taiwan to try to provoke conflict with North Korea and China, etc) not to mention debt trapping much of the developing world and owning large portions of their economies essentially recreating colonial economic relationships. The US/NATO is the biggest threat to world peace and also to communist and left wing governments in the world. Any country that undermines the military dominance of the US/NATO in the world is ultimately weakening the greatest barrier to communist movements in the world.

He's a Journalist.

You are disgusting and pro genocide. A country that doesn't acknowledge another country and instead forces their citizens to acknowledge a country which commits genocide, is corrupt as fuck. "Good reason", my ass. There's a good reason why many of the Holocaust survivors are disgusted by the actions of Israel. What Israel is doing to Palestine is no different than what Nazi Germany did to the jews in World War 2.



Bullshit.

From the river to the sea" is a call for two things:

First, an end to occupation of West Bank and Gaza.

Second, the right of return for all Palestinian refugees driven out of their homes in 1948 (Israel was founded during that time and drove many Palestinians away).


Shut the fuck up. Israel has been bombing other countries since decades. They started the war in the Middle East many decades ago.



This is Beirut. The year is 1982. There was no organization called Hezbollah at that time. Israel was bombing Lebanon mercilessly 42 years ago. Israel has always been at it their goal has always been Greater Israel to destroy Middle East and then occupy those nations.

They are the ones who deny the existential rights of Palestine, Iran, Lebanon, and Syria, something which shouldn't be up to debate.



Don't worry, I will always respond to your bullshit, as I stand up for the rights of the oppressed people.

Here's another present to you, a man who demolishes your zionist pile of shit opinion.


Just looked at this post again, sad that you didnt respond, but what can one expect from a guy who uses Reddit as a legitimate source and insults everyone who isnt holding his opinion.

I was looking forward on seeing your response, because I completely debunked you...
 
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German brothers and sisters on SanctionedSuicide we have to unite. Me as your dear leader (due to the fact I have the Most Posts ignoring @Praestat_Mori He left the country, He does not count anymore) I will bring on us a New century of wealth and fortitude. I already have made some promising trade deals with @DarkRange55
Just ignore how cringe this post is and help me to overthrow the regime that currently is ruining our country.
 
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SolitudeMan

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Germany has been ruled and occupied by the USA since 1945.
You have 40 US military bases on your land.
you've been occupied for 80 years.
 
NPCaesar

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Germany has been ruled and occupied by the USA since 1945.
You have 40 US military bases on your land.
you've been occupied for 80 years.
So you say that having allied soldiers in your country means being occupied???
 
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I just listen to a debate between two German intellectuals. Herfried MΓΌnkler against Christian Hacke. And I am sick of how many Putin fans there are in Germany. And wanna be pacifists. We are so cocked when Ukraine loses this war. Putin will not stop.
 
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Will not stop what?
Hybride war against all Europe. Potentially invading more Eastern European countries. Russia invests insane amounts in military. I don't think this is easily reversible. The Russian economy thrives on it and is deeply dependent on it now.
 
SolitudeMan

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So you say that having allied soldiers in your country means being occupied???
Germany and the US are not equal
They are master and subordinate
it's the same situation for France, UK, Japan and other countries.
They are there for self-interest
Having US bases in your country will make you a target in a future war.
 
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Hybride war against all Europe. Potentially invading more Eastern European countries. Russia invests insane amounts in military. I don't think this is easily reversible. The Russian economy thrives on it and is deeply dependent on it now.
I'm sorry, but this is pure nonsense. Putin would never attack NATO territory, and I would seriously urge you to check if the people promoting this theory have some kind of vested interested in increasing the military spending of Germany.
 
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I'm sorry, but this is pure nonsense. Putin would never attack NATO territory, and I would seriously urge you to check if the people promoting this theory have some kind of vested interested in increasing the military spending of Germany.
Most people thought it was unthinkable that Putin would want to invade and occupy the whole territory of Ukraine. I am not sure whether he is a rational actor considering how much damage he has done to Ukraine and Russia with this move.
Well Russia invests way way way more percentage of their annual budget into military than any other European country. And the US under Trump do not want to defend us in case they attack us and they call us freerider where there is some truth in it.
 
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