Germans on here, whats your opinion on the current political situation in our country?

[NPCaesar]

I'm sorry, but this is pure nonsense. Putin would never attack NATO territory, and I would seriously urge you to check if the people promoting this theory have some kind of vested interested in increasing the military spending of Germany.

What makes you think he would stop at Ukraine? This guy is a lunatic and the people he has behind him are even more insane, then he already. Putin threatened Europe multiple times already. So yes, the people have an interest in increasing the military budget, for our own safety, freedom and democracy. I dont want my country to suffer the same fate, as Ukraine did

Germany and the US are not equal
They are master and subordinate
it's the same situation for France, UK, Japan and other countries.
They are there for self-interest
Having US bases in your country will make you a target in a future war.

This is just made up, how are are the US the "masters" of their allies, just because they have troops stationed here. Of course, they are also there for their own interest, but how do the US influence the politics of one nation, which would make the argument of Germany (and other NATO members) being a puppet solid. You just invent half hearted theories to make the Western world look bad, bruh.

Germany and the US are not equal
They are master and subordinate
it's the same situation for France, UK, Japan and other countries.
They are there for self-interest
Having US bases in your country will make you a target in a future war.

This is just made up, how are are the US the "masters" of their allies, just because they have troops stationed here. Of course, they are also there for their own interest, but how do the US influence the politics of one nation, which would make the argument of Germany (and other NATO members) being a puppet solid. You just invent half hearted theories to make the Western world look bad, bruh.

 

[yellowjester]

What makes you think he would stop at Ukraine? This guy is a lunatic and the people he has behind him are even more insane, then he already. Putin threatened Europe multiple times already. So yes, the people have an interest in increasing the military budget, for our own safety, freedom and democracy. I dont want my country to suffer the same fate, as Ukraine did

You are very ill informed. Putin isn't insane just because he did something you don't understand. If he really was insane, he would be removed from power by the people around him. I understand there is this sort of liberal fantasy where the free west is fighting the autocratic east, but it's very important that we keep our heads clear and not fall into this line of thinking where Putin is this comic book supervillain who would blow up the whole entire world for his territorial ambitions. This isn't helpful for anyone, least of all the Ukrainians, who deserve an end to this devastating war, which can only be achieved through diplomacy and negotiation.

 

[NPCaesar]

You are very ill informed. Putin isn't insane just because he did something you don't understand. If he really was insane, he would be removed from power by the people around him. I understand there is this sort of liberal fantasy where the free west is fighting the autocratic east, but it's very important that we keep our heads clear and not fall into this line of thinking where Putin is this comic book supervillain who would blow up the whole entire world for his territorial ambitions. This isn't helpful for anyone, least of all the Ukrainians, who deserve an end to this devastating war, which can only be achieved through diplomacy and negotiation.

Then please tell me, what is the logical, humanitarian and rational reason for Putin invading another independent and free country. What do I not understand?

And yes, a peace has to be found in Ukraine, but saying that we need diplomacy and negotiation now is just out of touch with reality, due to Russia being the only ones, who prevent any kind of diplomacy, if Putin was rly interested in a real, honest and fair peace deal, he could start it right now, he is in the position to do so, but doesnt.

And what is this "liberal fantasy" all about? Accepting facts? What are you talking about, dude?

You are trying to turn the tables around, saying that the "West" and the Ukrainian government are the ones responsible for this war, but thats just a complete lie and blatant revisionist talking points, get your facts right, man...

 

[yellowjester]

Then please tell me, what is the logical, humanitarian and rational reason for Putin invading another independent and free country. What do I not understand

He thinks he has a historical duty to unite Russia and Ukraine. No one's calling him a humanist, but that doesn't mean he's clinically insane.

due to Russia being the only ones, who prevent any kind of diplomacy

The US blocked a peace treaty in 2022 that would prevent a NATO membership and stationing of US artillery in Ukraine and make territorial concessions to Russia.

saying that the "West" and the Ukrainian government are the ones responsible for this war,

I literally never said that. Putin is responsible for this war, but that doesn't mean the West is entirely innocent and can't do anything to stop it.