Method Guns/firearms megathread

[summers]

@absurdtimeline don't worry about the semi auto. Whether you're successful or not, there is zero chance of you being able to shoot yourself a second time point blank with a shotgun. With any gun, you really only have one chance, you either die, wind up a vegetable (fuck up a headshot) or paralyzed (fuck up a heart shot).

 

[Lookingtotalk]

@absurdtimeline don't worry about the semi auto. Whether you're successful or not, there is zero chance of you being able to shoot yourself a second time point blank with a shotgun. With any gun, you really only have one chance, you either die, wind up a vegetable (fuck up a headshot) or paralyzed (fuck up a heart shot).

What if you combine headshot with handgun, if you dont have or can't handle shotgun, and add partial hanging and ligature around neck with no one to find you for some time?

This site is serious at times, funny at times, and this thread is down right stupid.

why do i hear so many people say this on here?

Is it part of the overthinking? ie "you have a gun, just shoot yourself in the head and shut up" i have seen that a lot.

but jw

 

[InjuredBrainGamer]

I live in Canada and its hard for me to get access to a gun, would there be a way for me to get access to a gun if I were to travel to the US and CTB somewhere remote like the forest?

PS I have a brain injury and I am aware of reincarnation

 

[allblackallwhite]

Please critique my checklist harshly? I only get one shot

Things:

• Remington 870 (12 gauge pump action shotgun, fitted with stabilizing brace)
• 00 buckshot, 5 bullets loaded
• mirror to check proper 20-45 degree angle
• pictures of loved ones & their art
• nice sounds

Steps:

1. Gather pics & art in front of me, turn on nice sounds
2. find safe direction to point gun
3. turn on safety
4. load gun fully, always keep pointed in safe direction
5. put barrel next to mouth
6. check mirror for proper angle
7. put muzzle in mouth
8. turn off safety
9. check mirror for proper angle
10. look at pics & art
11. put thumb on trigger, fingers curled around the pistol grip; other hand on sliding fore-end
12. check mirror, look at pics & art again
13. wait for good moment
14. push trigger

Fears:

• Part of me wants a semi-auto. In case the first shot goes wrong , it'll be sliiiightly easier to take a 2nd shot
• Will there be any pain? There shouldn't be, though maybe my "gut brain" (dense collection of neurons near stomach) may think otherwise

I disagree with #13. You should nix that one and just pull.

 

[TimetoGo!]

I wish i had a gun...

id give 10k for one right now

 

[ts0hill]

okay guys I been reading through this thread and it makes me confused.
I have a simple question. I am going to buy a handgun. What should I use to most guarantee death? I was thinking .45acp or 10mm. Should I get a different caliber? Revolver? I can not use a shot gun because it needs to be concealed

 

[FrozenMango]

okay guys I been reading through this thread and it makes me confused.
I have a simple question. I am going to buy a handgun. What should I use to most guarantee death? I was thinking .45acp or 10mm. Should I get a different caliber? Revolver? I can not use a shot gun because it needs to be concealed

0.45 acp, 10mm, 357 magnum, 44 magnum

 

[DarknessAtNoon]

Suicide Case-Fatality Rates in the United States, 2007 to 2014: A Nationwide Population-Based Study: Annals of Internal Medicine: Vol 171, No 12

Background: The suicide case-fatality rate (CFR)—the proportion of suicidal acts that are fatal—depends on the distribution of methods used in suicidal acts and the probability of death given a particular method (method-specific CFR). Objective: To estimate overall and method-specific suicide...

www.acpjournals.org

Just thought I'd post this study that shows firearm suicides are successful about 90% of the time(I've seen a lot of people say it's 80%). This number includes shots to places other than the head as well as really small caliber guns. I'd imagine that 9mm or greater shot to the head would be 95%+ effective.

 

[Kotochan]

I bought a colt! - it's really heavy!! I'm scared to really hold it lmao, however I did do a little familiarizing with how it works. I have some gun experience but from normal guns.

I didn't realize it doesn't come with percussion caps :(. Thankfully I already have powder!

 

[Kotochan]

does anyone know how else I can fire this without percussion caps i'm having trouble getting any :(

 

[earshurt]

This question's for those based in the US. Is there any chance that an involuntary psychiatric hospitalization as a minor could get flagged in a background check when I try to purchase a gun? It's worth noting that the hospitalization was over a decade ago and forced on me by my parents + psychiatrist rather than a court.

I'm asking about federal law here. I'm not worried about state-level law.

 

[Life is overrated]

I have a question about a slam fire/pipe shotgun. How much pressure would be needed to fire the buckshot? I'm skinny and weak so I'm wondering if I'd still be able to make it function.

 

[lifeisbutadream]

I bought a colt! - it's really heavy!! I'm scared to really hold it lmao, however I did do a little familiarizing with how it works. I have some gun experience but from normal guns.

I didn't realize it doesn't come with percussion caps :(. Thankfully I already have powder!

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Why did you buy an antique pre civil war gun ?

 

[makethepainstop]

Handguns are perfectly functional, with the caveat that you need to use a large enough caliber. Technically speaking, any gun can work, but below a certain size threshold your chances of success drop significantly.

Modern handguns:

@Threads's preference for a .357 is well founded. A .357 is the benchmark against which all other calibers are measured for "stopping power."

Gun calibers can be extremely confusing --the more you look, the more confused you'll get-- but a good rule of thumb could be:

Revolver: anything .38 Special (marginal! --see note under ammunition) or larger --.357, .44, .45 Colt, .45ACP, etc.
Semiautomatic: anything 9mm or larger --.40, 10mm, .357Sig, .45

Avoid in either type of pistols: .22, .25, .32, .380, .38ACP. Will some of these smaller calibers work? Yes --technically. I have a .32 Auto that is likely to be my choice since it'll leave less mess than my .45ACP. The .380, aka 9mm Largo, is a good round, especially with modern ammo. BUT, you had better be very confident of your aim (I have shot competitively). If you are reading this thread with even a shadow of a doubt about where you need to aim, you should not look at these smaller calibers.

Revolver or semiautomatic?:

Revolvers are mechanically simpler and often attract less attention during purchase. You can also find them with a 2" "snub nose" barrel that makes them very easy to handle.

Semiautomatics have become far more common than revolvers, so might be easier to acquire, but they are more mechanically complex.

And once again, Hollywood is a shitty place to learn about how to use either.

Ammunition:

Always, always, always use hollowpoints, sometimes abbreviated in conversation and on the box itself "JHP" (Jacketted Hollow Point). JHPs deliver all the kinetic force of the bullet in as short a distance as possible. I.e., into your head, rather than into the wall on the other side of you. The brand doesn't matter; they all work.

If you are using a .38 Special revolver, which is marginal, look for ammunition labled "+P" or "+P+". These are designations meaning the ammunition has been loaded with more powder than the standard ammunition, and thus will deliver more power.

Would a 45 derringer work? Not 45acp but 45 cowboy gun ammo?

 

[BornToFail]

I am really not understanding the pistol calibers. What would be the best pistol for suicide ideally? I'm so sorry.

 

[waitingtodie]

I live in New York but I've been hospitalized for suicidal ideation so I don't think I'd be able to purchase a firearm. Don't they run those kind of checks?

 

[Kotochan]

Why did you buy an antique pre civil war gun ?

I don't know anything about guns, and also I've attempted suicide before an was hospitalized - I can order a muzzle loader, but not a real gun

 

[locked*n*loaded]

What is a 10mm?

 

[AliceTheGoon]

Found an interesting coroner report detailing a gunshot suicide by a drummer in one of my favorite bands. This was a temple shot with a non-jacketed hollowpoint .38 special and the bullet did not exit the skull. Victim was also found with higher than theraputic levels of barbiturates and benzos in his blood. If my math is right he either took twice the amount of xanax he was prescribed or he just downed a bunch of pills prior to shooting himself.

 

[regal20]

Why did you buy an antique pre civil war gun ?

Probably because such a weapon can be had without a permit. It is unwieldy and loading it is tedious, but at close range it kills as effectively as a modern pistol.

 

[ts0hill]

Is a slug or a buck shot better? 12 gauge

 

[Pepper]

I live in New York but I've been hospitalized for suicidal ideation so I don't think I'd be able to purchase a firearm. Don't they run those kind of checks?

Fellow New Yorker here. Yes, they do. I've been hospitalized four times.

 

[ACALABJL]

Any gun experts still around here? Shoot me a DM please! Mainly looking for information regarding handguns.

 

[kat17383]

Can you buy a shotgun in Pennsylvania if you've been commited for attempted suicide? I'm 20.

 

[deadliftEnjoyer]

Handguns are perfectly functional, with the caveat that you need to use a large enough caliber. Technically speaking, any gun can work, but below a certain size threshold your chances of success drop significantly.

Modern handguns:

@Threads's preference for a .357 is well founded. A .357 is the benchmark against which all other calibers are measured for "stopping power."

Gun calibers can be extremely confusing --the more you look, the more confused you'll get-- but a good rule of thumb could be:

Revolver: anything .38 Special (marginal! --see note under ammunition) or larger --.357, .44, .45 Colt, .45ACP, etc.
Semiautomatic: anything 9mm or larger --.40, 10mm, .357Sig, .45

Avoid in either type of pistols: .22, .25, .32, .380, .38ACP. Will some of these smaller calibers work? Yes --technically. I have a .32 Auto that is likely to be my choice since it'll leave less mess than my .45ACP. The .380, aka 9mm Largo, is a good round, especially with modern ammo. BUT, you had better be very confident of your aim (I have shot competitively). If you are reading this thread with even a shadow of a doubt about where you need to aim, you should not look at these smaller calibers.

Revolver or semiautomatic?:

Revolvers are mechanically simpler and often attract less attention during purchase. You can also find them with a 2" "snub nose" barrel that makes them very easy to handle.

Semiautomatics have become far more common than revolvers, so might be easier to acquire, but they are more mechanically complex.

And once again, Hollywood is a shitty place to learn about how to use either.

Ammunition:

Always, always, always use hollowpoints, sometimes abbreviated in conversation and on the box itself "JHP" (Jacketted Hollow Point). JHPs deliver all the kinetic force of the bullet in as short a distance as possible. I.e., into your head, rather than into the wall on the other side of you. The brand doesn't matter; they all work.

If you are using a .38 Special revolver, which is marginal, look for ammunition labled "+P" or "+P+". These are designations meaning the ammunition has been loaded with more powder than the standard ammunition, and thus will deliver more power.

All I got is a .38...Marginal

But it doesn't seem so marginal when other people are getting shot with it. Im my country, it is a popular caliber with criminals. There are so many videos of people getting shot with .38 during robberies and simply falling dead to the ground

 

[iwillforyou]

I am a small female (currently less than 100lbs), know next to nothing about guns— I've only even held a BB gun— and was recently involuntarily committed via baker act. I am nervous about the mess and horror for others which has in the past prevented me from truly considering this option but I feel I am out of options. I have tried pills and cutting my wrists without success which has, other than traumatizing someone I love, always been the worst part for me— the idea of attempting and failing— I currently am truly out of options as I am "living" in my car and out of money— other than a train or jump— which require more courage than I may have and also will traumatize anyone to find me. If I can get a gun at this point that would be my choice— or fentanyl I suppose though there are reasons I don't want that option— but as a shotgun is suggested I am unsure what length they are (tried to research but as with the calibers as mentioned here it's a lot of information and unclear to me) or what length I could successfully use. It wouldn't be prudent to try discern if I could comfortably fit the gun in my mouth in public. Please help provide information not just on the caliber size but about how to choose the right shotgun based on body size— or the best least confusing links for further investigation.
Thank you so much.

If I really had my way I'd just climb in the Sarcopod— shame they aren't approved in the US/more widely but what can you do other than resort to worse choices.

I don't mean to be snarky, but why double-barrel? You're only going to get one shot.

I will agree that a 12ga is probably the best combination of efficacy and ease of acquisition --and I also agree that its greusome results are psychologically difficult to overcome. Other options need to be considered here.

I take exception to the idea that shotguns should be solely what are recommended. The ctb method of firearms is, by its nature, more complex in its options than, say, drowning, and such simplification isn't neccessarily a good idea, any more than saying nitrogen is the only option for use with an exit bag.

For those who don't have experience with firearms, CTB by firearm is NOT simple, no matter how much Hollywood implies it is. If you're reading this thread, you need to accept that, think carefully about the opinions expressed here, and ask questions.

 

[iwillforyou]

BE AWARE that you will be committing a FELONY if you do so --the Feds frown very seriously on shortening long guns--

Also, just for curiosity's sake, why is sawing off a shotgun a felony?? It's just shortening the gun, no? Concealment issue? That's all I could think..

 

[Barry]

Does anyone know the best 12 GA ammo you can buy in the EU? I only really found Hornady 12 GA 00 Buckshot Critical Defense, would this be good enough?

 

[ZRA]

I'm an American, but I live in the Imperial Capital, unfortunately. It seems to me that my best *shot* might be to drive out to Virginia. This is going to be a challenge since I live with my mom and don't have a car, but I think I can pull it off. It would be hard to bring the gun back with me in that case, though - no matter what method of transportation I use, there will be questions. If I went to a gun show and got a shotgun, could I just CTB in the parking lot? Do they have people that monitor for that kind of stuff? The issue is that I really can't scope it out beforehand.

 

[tosch]

Kennt jemand die beste 12 GA-Munition, die man in der EU kaufen kann? Ich habe wirklich nur Hornady 12 GA 00 Buckshot Critical Defense gefunden, wäre das gut genug?

00 is ok. If you write a few more comments, you will be able to get pm