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dlee

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Feb 15, 2020
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I decided on a day, my birthday I'm turning 27 so seems fitting. My method is hanging and I've done a ton of research I'd like to share before it's to late.
The first time I tried to hang myself it hurt. I felt like I needed to cough from my windpipe being crushed and like my head was going to explode. If you experience this you are doing it wrong.
There are a few ways to perish by hanging.
1) lack of bloodflow to brain
2) lack of oxygen to the brain from lack of air
3) too much bloodflow to the brain
4) breaking your neck
The first opinion is your best.
Pressing on your windpipe tell you cannot breath not only hurts like hell but triggers the co2 panic response. Too much bloodflow to the brain make your head feel like exploding. This happens when you dont have enough pressure on rope. You have artery going into your brain and the jugulars draining blood from the brain. The jugular are easy to compress so when you dont have enough pressure to close the arteries the pressure in your head builds and builds and even when you die your head is bloated and purple not the way to go. Breaking your neck is very very very difficult. You must calculate your weight and height of drop the rope size and even then you can mess up and choke to death.
So again number 1 is the best option cut off all inward and outward flow of blood without crushing the trachea. How do we accomplish this?
First let's talk ligiture size and texture.
The width of the ligature matters. Yes you can accomplish this with a belt or a scarf but I'm going for comfort. Contrary to popular belief wider isnt more comfortable. Yes it may be more cofortable on the skin initially but the inability to close the arteries quickly makes it uncomfortable with the extreme head bloating. I reccomend bdsm rope its cotton or a blend and usually no bigger than a finger in width. But anything finger size or smaller will do even paracord or small wires and cords.
Now let's talk placement the most important part. Where to stick the rope on the neck.
The most common approach is to stick the ligature at the top of the neck near the jaw line and above the Adam's apple. I have found this is the most UNCOMFORTABLE place. The pressure of the ligature on the neck constricts the trachea and makes you need to cough or feel like choking. DO NOT PLACE THE ROPE AT THE TOP OF YOUR NECK.
The very base of the neck with the rope resting on the collar bones before tightening is an ok but still not recommended spot. The muscles at the base of the neck are big enough to protect your trachea but are too big to allow you to easily compress the arteries going to the brain.
The best placement of the rope is half ways between your Adam's apple and the base of your neck. Or about one to two fingers widths down from the middle of the Adam's apple. So if we visually sectioned the neck into thirds it would be the first line up from the bottom. This is the most comfortable spot it's easy to compress everything and I pass out in about 10 seconds with no airway restriction or discomfort.
Lastly lest talk knots and placement relative to face.
There is absolutely no need to learn the hangman's knot or any hard complex knots. I have found that the more complex the knot the more friction it makes and the harder it is to compress the neck. So the two best options I have found are:
1. Slip knot- slides very easily can quickly be undone and doesnt pinch
2. D rings or any kind of metal ring tied to the end of the rope makes for a frictionless slide with no pinching.

As for placement:
if the knot itself is in the front of the neck it reduces the force applied to the arteries and veins because they are close to the front of your neck not the sides.
If the knot is placed on the side of the neck it reduces the force applied to the veins and arteries on that side
If the knot is placed at the back of the neck it achieves optimal pressure on the front of the neck. The back of the neck is the best option.

Final notes:
1.Make sure what you attach your rope to is strong and I mean really strong.
2. Dont add padding under the rope it reduces pressure
3. You can test placement by wrapping the rope around your neck without tying a knot. Just crisscross it in the back grab each side of the rope and extend your arms outwards to the side tigentining it around your neck. If you pass out it will come loose and you'll be safe and sound. It's a great way to get over the SI attached to the sinking/fading away feeling by practicing loving the high.

You guys have been so amazing and have helped me so much I hope this helps you.
can i ask you why you want to die, just curious... my family (wife, daughter) just threw me away like a used napkin.. never did anything bad to them, just battled an addiction for a couple years which i got over.. but they never got over it and made me feel worthless every chance they got. all i wanted was love and support, all i got was my self esteem badgered out of me... worst part is i cant imagine life without them, they are my world, we were so happy together before. i know i fucked up with becoming an addict but im still me, i never hurt them physically, just lied about it from being scared and in denial.. apparently thats enough to just throw someone away. i just hate this universe, feel like no one really gives a shit about anyone else unless the get something in return, or if theyre just trying to feel self righteous. i just want to CTB, every day is worse then the last
 
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HannahB

Death is the true name of time.
Oct 29, 2019
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can i ask you why you want to die, just curious... my family (wife, daughter) just threw me away like a used napkin.. never did anything bad to them, just battled an addiction for a couple years which i got over.. but they never got over it and made me feel worthless every chance they got. all i wanted was love and support, all i got was my self esteem badgered out of me... worst part is i cant imagine life without them, they are my world, we were so happy together before. i know i fucked up with becoming an addict but im still me, i never hurt them physically, just lied about it from being scared and in denial.. apparently thats enough to just throw someone away. i just hate this universe, feel like no one really gives a shit about anyone else unless the get something in return, or if theyre just trying to feel self righteous. i just want to CTB, every day is worse then the last

Because I see I am every good and every bad. This game is to see what I am capable of, what I am, but i have already seen what i am and so theres nothing left for me here in this cycle.
 
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Doom76

CTB
Feb 12, 2020
33
I want to ctb by partial hanging and cant seem to pass out what could I be doing wrong?
 
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Majin K.

too weak for this world
Jan 9, 2020
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Because I see I am every good and every bad. This game is to see what I am capable of, what I am, but i have already seen what i am and so theres nothing left for me here in this cycle.
If there even is such a thing as a "cycle". Because that would imply repetition.
 
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Pan

Paragon
Oct 24, 2019
913
I can't recommend hannahb's authoritative account highly enough. Clearly, she has done her research on this topic
 
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Kornyboyo

Student
Aug 7, 2019
102
Is this for full-suspension or partial? Can i tied the rope to something above me and lean forward?
 
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No capacity

Member
Feb 5, 2020
54
I feel so stupid and so desperate. I am a relatively intelligent woman who has had a really good 15 yr career so I'm not dumb, own my house etc etc and tonight I have really tried at this. I can't access N, I have a potential partner with SN but he / she is in a different country. I have another who is more local but needs more time and I am desperate to go soon, tonight if preferable. I am alone. I'm done with the pain. I have a a necktie, I have a dressing gown rope. Why can't I get this right. Hannah suggests trying before which I did. First time, as she described, was too gah and blood was rushing to my head and i knew i would land up purple and it would be painful. Second time tried lower and just gagged like a bad BJ (sorry not sorry). I'm trying to test it. I can fell myself almost passing out and thats positive but given I'm not stupid why can i not even figure out how to tie my dressing gown tie. It should be so simple but you are talking to someone who can't open a can with a can opener. I am your classic Bridget Jones. In London tonight if anyone has any "capacity" to chat to me or meet me. I mean this should be easy right. Celebs do it and most (apart from dear Robin) I don't think had more mind than me?
 
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Bob_Luman

Student
Feb 19, 2020
129
So let me get this straight when putting the rope around your neck you tie it on and around the Adam's apple? Or is it just below the Adam's apple I don't get what you mean.
 
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BFishy

Student
Dec 25, 2019
180
So let me get this straight when putting the rope around your neck you tie it on and around the Adam's apple? Or is it just below the Adam's apple I don't get what you mean.
From what I got reading, it's just below the Adam's apple.
I have a shorter neck so two fingers goes from tight on the base of my neck basically pressing on my collar bone right to my Adam's apple.
 
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zeroambition

Recovered
Nov 3, 2019
3,176
Hanging isn't my main method but I recently bought a BDSM rope so I can experiment properly instead of using an old extension cord.. hopefully this time the rope won't go on or above my Adam's apple whenever I give into my weight.
 
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BFishy

Student
Dec 25, 2019
180
I placed the rope high on myself. Sadly my former partner talked me out of it before I applied weight, (stepped off the table).
Then I got the guilt trip bullshit from them. Hell apparently I am not even worth or good enough to find my personal happiness in knowing I'll soon be happy. Sucks I can't even die without being expected to put others before me.
Sorry for the vent.
 
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Bob_Luman

Student
Feb 19, 2020
129
From what I got reading, it's just below the Adam's apple.
I have a shorter neck so two fingers goes from tight on the base of my neck basically pressing on my collar bone right to my Adam's apple.
Thanks for your reply. Also I'm from the U.K and I'm not sure with what rope I should go for since the type she mentioned in this thread I was unable to find on ebay or amazon. Would this be a good buy do you think? Amazon product ASIN B00IBHTB72
 
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BFishy

Student
Dec 25, 2019
180
The link didn't post. I think it's based on rules and I believe that there is a way to do it but it needs to be edited or something.
I wish I could help you with what to get or use, but I'm afraid I don't feel knowledgable to help choose. I have mine set but until It works or dosen't I don't feel qualified to advise.
 
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Mizzmini45

Arcanist
Dec 1, 2019
447
I'm no longer considering this method but I appreciate you posting this for the people that are.
What changed your mind if you don't mind me asking
I agree with that. The only attempt in which I lost consciousness was when I placed the rope in this position.
I wish I could see a visual picture of this
 
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Kornyboyo

Student
Aug 7, 2019
102
This is my method in the next few days.
 
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Kornyboyo

Student
Aug 7, 2019
102
What adjustments should you make if you start getting the insane head pressure?
 
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zeroambition

Recovered
Nov 3, 2019
3,176
Hanging isn't my main method but I recently bought a BDSM rope so I can experiment properly instead of using an old extension cord.. hopefully this time the rope won't go on or above my Adam's apple whenever I give into my weight.
Update: I've done a lot of experimenting below Adam's apple but I haven't been able to pass out, let alone feel dizzy. I tried it above Adam's apple and next thing I'm lying on the grass confused with a sore forehead.. I don't know why it's not working below Adam's apple?
 
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Mizzmini45

Arcanist
Dec 1, 2019
447
Why is this so easy for some but so hard for others?
 
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Steamm

Arcanist
Feb 28, 2020
446
Thanks for the info. I've tried several times and one time I felt I was about to pass out, but never again I acomplished that
 
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Kornyboyo

Student
Aug 7, 2019
102
Do you need to hold your breath or keep breathing normally when applying pressure on the neck?
 
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jimbob1000

Student
Feb 21, 2020
133
man i suck at hanging , just cant seem to get it right, just end up hurting myself
 
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DaFloof

Member
Feb 21, 2020
24
I've been casually experimenting with this method while I sit and read, and for the first time, today, found that 'tingling all over' feeling before passing out...a nd wow... I can finally say I understand the autoerotic asphyxiation stuff! It felt indescribably amazing!

What finally ended up working, in my case, was applying more inward pressure from the front of the neck than I had been. Everyone's anatomy is different, so what works for me won't work for everyone, but it was literally a night and day difference from simply squeezing at the sides like I had been trying. I gave it a go with a paracord ligature shortly after, and sure enough... leaning forward into the ligature instead of simply yanking it up (with the ligature about a single finger width below my Adam's Apple) did it as if on cue. I will say that I have a thick, muscular neck (I'm 210 pounds of mostly muscle and wear an 18 1/2" collar on my dress shirts, if that means anything to anybody), and so it could simply be that my sternocleidomastoid is just too thick to compress without some extra help from the front, but in my case, wow did it ever help. Never once did I feel unable to breathe, though. It seems my trachea at that point has plenty of room to squeeze back into the softer tissues of the neck without being crushed or occluded by the pressure.

Spotty vision and full body tingles in about six seconds. If I hadn't stopped, I'm fairly certain I'd have awoken later on the floor. No headache, no disturbingly powerful ringing of the ears. Forward-leaning-pressure on the front of my neck was my key (along with the pressure along the sides, of course, that I'd previously exclusively been using)

This is definitely nice to have ready as a backup should I end up deciding to not get on the bus with some other, more passive means and find them confiscated and not available again.
 
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nbn

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Nov 3, 2019
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The reason why most partial hanging attempts hurt is because u compress mostly jugular vein, carotid arteries are located around trachea.So if one exerts pressure at this points,i think 100% of tge people can lose consciousness. I have read a 1960 scientific article where a doctor used some kind of pressure tube on 300 prisoners.All 300 prisoners lost consciousness within 16 second. So,i don't think anatomy place any role,if u apply sufficient force at the right place
 
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one4all

one4all

I'll put pennies on your eyes and it will go away.
Feb 3, 2020
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The reason why most partial hanging attempts hurt is because u compress mostly jugular vein, carotid arteries are located around trachea.So if one exerts pressure at this points,i think 100% of tge people can lose consciousness. I have read a 1960 scientific article where a doctor used some kind of pressure tube on 300 prisoners.All 300 prisoners lost consciousness within 16 second. So,i don't think anatomy place any role,if u apply sufficient force at the right place

Did the articles mention anything about the position the ligature was placed?
Personally i think some peoples anatomy does make a difference. Some have a more protruding adams apple which makes it harder to find the sweet spot. While i'm not disagreeing with what you said.. i'm just making a random thought about this

And yes the carotid artery is the key to success
 
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nbn

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Nov 3, 2019
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Did the articles mention anything about the position the ligature was placed?
Personally i think some peoples anatomy does make a difference. Some have a more protruding adams apple which makes it harder to find the sweet spot. While i'm not disagreeing with what you said.. i'm just making a random thought about this

And yes the carotid artery is the key to success
Yes,I think the article detailed everything accurately, but i don't remember if it is above or below Adams apple
 
one4all

one4all

I'll put pennies on your eyes and it will go away.
Feb 3, 2020
3,455
Yes,I think the article detailed everything accurately, but i don't remember if it is above or below Adams apple

It would be interesting to know if all methods were used in the same manner or some above/below the adams apple.
What was the hanging method they used?
 
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Bootskitt

New Member
Feb 26, 2020
1
Hey there friends. Ive been mostly a silent watcher. OP and I knew eachother for many many years and she actually invited me to join here based off of some similar ideals. Its a little late (as much as I knew and understood I, at least, still needed some time to process) but I would like to inform you guys that she's no longer going to be posting.
 
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Pan

Paragon
Oct 24, 2019
913
Hanging is quick, with a minimum of drama, and, contrary to what many think, there is little thrashing about. Unconsciousness sets in quickly, especially if full suspension method is used. Partial suspension seems sketchy at best, with full suspension, there is simply no turning back. Allowing for a window of, say, and hour or two should cinch it.
 
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Pan

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Oct 24, 2019
913
I extol Hannahb for the foresight of the process, it's perils, it's pitfalls. She in't there to debate the moral issues, namely, the pros, cons of l
I extol Hannah bfor Herrera he into this complicates
 
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