Method How could Samurais seriously commit seppuku?

[KillingPain267]

The word literally means to cut in the stomach/guts. How could they be so touch to do it? Could it be a viable method if we worked up ourselves the courage? It's a quite available method. It's also interesting how even brave Samurais knew that there is a time where defeat is real and there is no point in contiuing on life at all cost, like pro-lifers today say.

 

[Forveleth]

They were highly disciplined and bound by honor stronger than most people today are bound by anything. They were on an entirely different level of mentality. They also would always have a "second" whose job is was to cut off their head after they cut themselves, so they knew they would not suffer long.

 

[kagebunshin]

With enough mental practice, contemplation, and study of for example Buddhist philosophy like life's transience, it's certainly possible for even modern individuals to achieve the conviction to do something like that. It just requires effort.

 

[KillingPain267]

They were highly disciplined and bound by honor stronger than most people today are bound by anything. They were on an entirely different level of mentality. They also would always have a "second" whose job is was to cut off their head after they cut themselves, so they knew they would not suffer long.

Bring it back!

 

[kagebunshin]

Bring it back!

I agree, who else is down for bushido revamped??

 

[TheVanishingPoint]

The samurai could commit seppuku because they were raised di in a culture where honor and duty instinctively overcame the natural fear of dying painful, young men have been educated to feel their life as an extension of his service to his lord and class, not as an absolute term good; Seppuku was a ritualistic, codified act common enough that the physical pain is canceled almost psychological force provided by acceptance mental and preparation often with the psychological support of a kaishakunin or assistant who beheaded them quickly immediately after cut abdominal so shortening excitement turning it into fast symbolic gesture consistent with bushidō code values.

 

[quietwoods]

Really what others have said, state of mind and motivation. When it comes to SI, you're not going to be able to override core biological functions like the need to breathe, eat, and drink, but you can override SI when it comes to making rational decisions to harm yourself, especially when the motivation is there.

I started to look into getting a large life insurance policy to combat SI, because I know I wouldn't be able to pull the trigger on a gun or do some other violent method in normal circumstances, but knowing my sister would get $1,000,000 in the event of my death I could pull that trigger with no issue.

Too bad suicide is incredibly difficult to get a life insurance claim for, even past the 2 year cutoff.

 

[Nightfoot]

It was considered an honorable death in that culture.

 

[Pale_Rider]

Two points. They were highly trained swordsmen, and their swords were razor sharp. Then I suppose their world view cut right through SI?

Also somebody would decapitate them promptly after spilling their intestines in most cases I belive.

 

[bankai]

They were honour bound. But there's one more problem in Japanese society. They do whatever society asks of them.You can see it in their society today as well.

tatemae.

I'd imagine some of them just went ahead with it, even if they didn't really want to but because they had to. It was what was required of samurais at that time.

And yeah as stated already , they did have an apprentice who would behead them immediately after.

 

[J&L383]

Bring it back!

I will SECOND that.

 

[Eliska]

I think the physical pain is really not a big deal in some circumstances.

 

[Ligottian]

After the WWII surrender, all military officers had to surrender their swords. In the 50's my Navy uncle brought one back home. Looks hundreds of years old, with symbolic looking stuff on the the handle. Probably bought it on the black market. Just gently touching the blade could give you a nick. But what they cut their guts out with was something that looked like a dagger. Think the name started with a "k". It was tied to the big sword inside a ribbed scabbard. I'm proud to have been given it. I'd return it to the soldier's family if that was a possibility.

 

[kagebunshin]

But what they cut their guts out with was something that looked like a dagger. Think the name started with a "k". It was tied to the big sword inside a ribbed scabbard.

It's called a tantō 短刀

 

[lookingglassinsect]

I strongly recommend the 1962 film 'Harakiri. In my opinion, it's more like a forced suicide rather than an individual decision

 

[leloyon]

It's called a tantō 短刀

 

[Bootleg Astolfo]

Theyre japanese, they,re built different. I mean, they had fucking MANNED TORPEDOES... And basically the underwater equivalent of suicide vests... and kamikaze.... and banzai charges.... They're kinda like, 100% speedrunning suicide.

 

[Ligottian]

That tanto. That's what I have with the big sword.

 

[NegevChina]

The word literally means to cut in the stomach/guts. How could they be so touch to do it? Could it be a viable method if we worked up ourselves the courage? It's a quite available method. It's also interesting how even brave Samurais knew that there is a time where defeat is real and there is no point in contiuing on life at all cost, like pro-lifers today say.

Its really hard to understand. People were impaled as an execution in the middle ages from their bottom up through their whole body and lived suffering for days stuck on the rod until they finally died.

 

[kagebunshin]

Theyre japanese, they,re built different. I mean, they had fucking MANNED TORPEDOES... And basically the underwater equivalent of suicide vests... and kamikaze.... and banzai charges.... They're kinda like, 100% speedrunning suicide.

This is a kind of reductive way of looking at it, it's not as if Japanese are a different species. Military honour exists across cultures throughout history. The romanticism of suicide in Heian Japan was inspired by Tang China, and the entire notion of surrendering life for one's lord/master has both Confucian and Buddhist origins. Japanese culture doesn't exist in a vacuum.

 

[monetpompo]

Theyre japanese, they,re built different. I mean, they had fucking MANNED TORPEDOES... And basically the underwater equivalent of suicide vests... and kamikaze.... and banzai charges.... They're kinda like, 100% speedrunning suicide.

can you not talk about japanese people like they're aliens? i agree with what @kagebunshin said. my mom has a very stereotypical view on the japanese and likes to bring up how they "always" commit suicide over stuff. i don't think it's fair to generalize their culture.

 

[Bootleg Astolfo]

can you not talk about japanese people like they're aliens? i agree with what @kagebunshin said. my mom has a very stereotypical view on the japanese and likes to bring up how they "always" commit suicide over stuff. i don't think it's fair to generalize their culture.

My japanese friend is the one who introduced me to all of those lol. His main meme is banzai charging in every game we play, at every. single. opportunity.