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oh and i thought i should add as well - anyone have experience of practicing partial, did it leave any mark on your neck ? because that could be a problem for me if i started testing it
ive practiced many times, for me it sometimes leaves a small red mark for an hour or so, It depends on how much pressure you put.I dont need to put much pressure as I seem to pass out very quickly when I hit my sweet spot. I also use a sock as padding to ease the digging feeling in my neck and help a bit with the red mark, but ive heard that it makes it harder for some people to pass out. doesnt affect me though.
Can a large concrete structural beam be used an anchor point in Full Suspension Hanging?
What types of knots are best to tie a rope around a square-ish structure? I've searched for some knots that are done specifically for square surfaces but I don't think they can resist holding my weight before coming undone... or could any type of knot go around this type of structure?
Would an ethernet cable work for this method? I'm 55kg, unsure if it'd be strong enough for me though
And what other type of knot do we use to tie the "rope" to the metal bar in the wardrove?
I just tried this and failed. I see the comment above somewhere where it comes down to the rope, I think that might be very important. After 30 seconds of still being conscious, I realised something was off, so I came here to learn more. I thought I had read this thoroughly before, but apparently not.
The rope I used was a gym rope, on the thinner side. But I noticed it wasn't all that bendy around the knot, but I figured it would close on my neck anyway. It sadly didn't fully close, and while I tried to shift and adjust, I think the rope was just a bad fit for this method.
Depressing though, it is the first opportynity I've had to be near a rope in years.
I just thought this information is better off here now, because the original source has been taken down.
If this violates any rules or if the author doesn't want this information to be reproduced on other sites, the admins or mods are free to delete my thread. I hope you don't mind, this is very useful, and it's not my intention to steal Loe's content. Source and credit: Loe
Guide to partially suspended hanging:
Warning: Don't try this method unless you're totally sure that:
a) you want to kill yourself
b) that you won't be found for at least 30 minutes after you attempt.
This method is very lethal and quick (quick from your perspective
anyway, as you black out within seconds), but if you're found in time
and 'saved' you can end up with serious brain damage and/or be left a
vegetable.
Why partial suspension?
Because full suspension seems to me to be unnecessary and creates
difficulties. First of all you need to find a place which would hold
your entire weight, which isn't easy, and also you need a stronger
ligature, which isn't always easy to find either. There's nothing
wrong with full suspension, but it may not be a viable method for
everyone, especially if you're looking to use everyday materials from
around the home.
By partial suspension I mean that you hang yourself around the neck
(specifically the carotid artery), and push downwards while kneeling.
This should create enough downward pressure on the ligature to tighten
it and close the carotid artery and stop the blood flow to your brain.
All you need is 3 kilograms of pressure to do this, which isn't much
at all.
Also, with full suspension your entire body weight is pressurizing
your neck, and this would probably be more than enough to not only cut
off the blood supply to your brain, but break your neck as well. I'm
not too sure if that's a good or a bad thing. I do know though, that
statistically people who've attempted via hanging have more often been
found kneeling and partially suspended than being fully suspended.
Where is the carotid artery?
Before you start you have to know this. If you place your hand around
the middle of your neck, around your Adam's apple, with one thumb on
one side and all fingers on the other, you should feel a strong pulse
and heartbeat. If you close your hand now fairly firmly, you'll
probably make yourself pass out. It might be a good idea to try this
to make sure you've got the right spot.
What type of ligature?
You need a ligature that's strong, but not too elastic. It doesn't
have to be very long, 1 meter or more would be plenty. I'd advise
against nylon rope, string, fishing wire, etc.
Neckties on the other hand, are perfect Smile .
It may also be a good idea to lubricate the ligature with soap. This
would help the noose tighten even quicker, especially if you're using
a rough ligature such as a rope. Lubricating it in this way will
increase the friction once you push your head down and tighten the
noose, and could make it a little more effective and faster.
What type of knot?
A slipknot. It's one of the most basic knots around, and you make it
with one end of your ligature. The other end should go around your
hanging place.
Many people have the misguided idea that a hangman's knot should be
used, but they're wrong. A hangman's knot is for a completely
different purpose, and won't work for this method.
Where should I hang?
You should hang from a support which will hold part of your weight.
You should test this by tying the loose end of your ligature around
the support several times, sticking your hand (NOT your head) in the
noose and pushing down with it. If the noose holds, you're fine. If
not, then you'll have to find another spot.
A great and easy place to hang is from the thick horizontal metal bar
which you find in wardrobes in most homes.
When should I do it?
When no one else will be in the same area, for at least 30 minutes.
You lose consciousness within seconds but your body doesn't completely
die for around 15-20 minutes. The extra 10-15 minutes is for
preparation time and just in case.
How?
When you're completely ready, kneel down, stick your head in the
noose, position it around the carotid artery and push downwards with
your head.
How would I bang myself with a belt from a doorknob? Ie what specifically are the logistics? I know Kate spade and robin Williams died this way but I can't figire it out!!!
I just thought this information is better off here now, because the original source has been taken down.
If this violates any rules or if the author doesn't want this information to be reproduced on other sites, the admins or mods are free to delete my thread. I hope you don't mind, this is very useful, and it's not my intention to steal Loe's content. Source and credit: Loe
Guide to partially suspended hanging:
Warning: Don't try this method unless you're totally sure that:
a) you want to kill yourself
b) that you won't be found for at least 30 minutes after you attempt.
This method is very lethal and quick (quick from your perspective
anyway, as you black out within seconds), but if you're found in time
and 'saved' you can end up with serious brain damage and/or be left a
vegetable.
Why partial suspension?
Because full suspension seems to me to be unnecessary and creates
difficulties. First of all you need to find a place which would hold
your entire weight, which isn't easy, and also you need a stronger
ligature, which isn't always easy to find either. There's nothing
wrong with full suspension, but it may not be a viable method for
everyone, especially if you're looking to use everyday materials from
around the home.
By partial suspension I mean that you hang yourself around the neck
(specifically the carotid artery), and push downwards while kneeling.
This should create enough downward pressure on the ligature to tighten
it and close the carotid artery and stop the blood flow to your brain.
All you need is 3 kilograms of pressure to do this, which isn't much
at all.
Also, with full suspension your entire body weight is pressurizing
your neck, and this would probably be more than enough to not only cut
off the blood supply to your brain, but break your neck as well. I'm
not too sure if that's a good or a bad thing. I do know though, that
statistically people who've attempted via hanging have more often been
found kneeling and partially suspended than being fully suspended.
Where is the carotid artery?
Before you start you have to know this. If you place your hand around
the middle of your neck, around your Adam's apple, with one thumb on
one side and all fingers on the other, you should feel a strong pulse
and heartbeat. If you close your hand now fairly firmly, you'll
probably make yourself pass out. It might be a good idea to try this
to make sure you've got the right spot.
What type of ligature?
You need a ligature that's strong, but not too elastic. It doesn't
have to be very long, 1 meter or more would be plenty. I'd advise
against nylon rope, string, fishing wire, etc.
Neckties on the other hand, are perfect Smile .
It may also be a good idea to lubricate the ligature with soap. This
would help the noose tighten even quicker, especially if you're using
a rough ligature such as a rope. Lubricating it in this way will
increase the friction once you push your head down and tighten the
noose, and could make it a little more effective and faster.
What type of knot?
A slipknot. It's one of the most basic knots around, and you make it
with one end of your ligature. The other end should go around your
hanging place.
Many people have the misguided idea that a hangman's knot should be
used, but they're wrong. A hangman's knot is for a completely
different purpose, and won't work for this method.
Where should I hang?
You should hang from a support which will hold part of your weight.
You should test this by tying the loose end of your ligature around
the support several times, sticking your hand (NOT your head) in the
noose and pushing down with it. If the noose holds, you're fine. If
not, then you'll have to find another spot.
A great and easy place to hang is from the thick horizontal metal bar
which you find in wardrobes in most homes.
When should I do it?
When no one else will be in the same area, for at least 30 minutes.
You lose consciousness within seconds but your body doesn't completely
die for around 15-20 minutes. The extra 10-15 minutes is for
preparation time and just in case.
How?
When you're completely ready, kneel down, stick your head in the
noose, position it around the carotid artery and push downwards with
your head.
From Chat GBT If you're writing a short story and want technical accuracy, a hangman's noose (which includes multiple coils) is traditionally used for executions because it tightens gradually and distributes pressure. A simple slipknot, on the other hand, can loosen unexpectedly and may not function as intended. I am going with history tonight.
From Chat GBT If you're writing a short story and want technical accuracy, a hangman's noose (which includes multiple coils) is traditionally used for executions because it tightens gradually and distributes pressure. A simple slipknot, on the other hand, can loosen unexpectedly and may not function as intended. I am going with history tonight.
I have tested different knots, and I don't like the Hangman's Noose. It's too stiff and doesn't tighten easily. Personally, I wouldn't use it for simple full suspension or partial hanging. Maybe it's a good choice for long-drop, I don't know, but that's not something I'm considering.
The simple Noose Knot is unreliable indeed, you're right, but the Noose Knot with a stopper knot is great, and that's what I like the best. The stopper knot makes it very reliable, and it still slides and tightens very easily.
I also like the Poacher's Knot. that's secure as well, and slides relatively easily, but not as easy as the Noose Knot with a stopper knot.
I have tested different knots, and I don't like the Hangman's Noose. It's too stiff and doesn't tighten easily. Personally, I wouldn't use it for simple full suspension or partial hanging. Maybe it's a good choice for long-drop, I don't know, but that's not something I'm considering.
The simple Noose Knot is unreliable indeed, you're right, but the Noose Knot with a stopper knot is great, and that's what I like the best. The stopper knot makes it very reliable, and it still slides and tightens very easily.
I also like the Poacher's Knot. that's secure as well, and slides relatively easily, but not as easy as the Noose Knot with a stopper knot.
Basically, yes. As you say, tie a stopper knot right above the Noose Knot, on the working end or short end, and pull it down and tighten it right above the Noose Knot. A simple Overhad Knot or Double Overhead Knot is fine.
Like, in the video below, except you don't need to tie the stopper knot first, you can tie it afterwards. Also, it should be put close to the Noose Knot, right above it, and not far apart like in the video.
Basically, yes. As you say, tie a stopper knot right above the Noose Knot, on the working end or short end, and pull it down and tighten it right above the Noose Knot. A simple Overhad Knot or Double Overhead Knot is fine.
Like, in the video below, except you don't need to tie the stopper knot first, you can tie it afterwards. Also, it should be put close to the Noose Knot, right above it, and not far apart like in the video.
Well, I tied the upper stopper knot at a point where the noose's loop is big enough to fit my head in, and then one at the end, I'm still struggling to understand the mechanism of the knots...
Even though I used the shortest distance between the noose knot to tie both stopper knots there was still a little distance between them. But I think it wont matter much...
Well, I tied the upper stopper knot at a point where the noose's loop is big enough to fit my head in, and then one at the end, I'm still struggling to understand the mechanism of the knots...
Even though I used the shortest distance between the noose knot to tie both stopper knots there was still a little distance between them. But I think it wont matter much...
I'm sorry, but it's not clear to me what you don't understand, or what you're struggling with. I'm not being sarcastic, it's really hard to figure out what you are doing exactly.
If you don't fully understand the mechanism of the knots, be careful, because you might be doing the wrong thing, which is not good. I'm not sure whether this is the case or not, but you might be confused with which end is which. It does matter, and it's important. There is only one stopper knot, at the short end. The other end is the free-sliding end.
Try this: Follow exactly what the video says from the beginning to the end. Then, try to loosen the stopper knot a bit, and wiggle it down towards the noose knot, and tighten it again as close to it as you can. This should give you the end result you're looking for.
I'm sorry, but it's not clear to me what you don't understand, or what you're struggling with. I'm not being sarcastic, it's really hard to figure out what you are doing exactly.
If you don't fully understand the mechanism of the knots, be careful, because you might be doing the wrong thing, which is not good. I'm not sure whether this is the case or not, but you might be confused with which end is which. It does matter, and it's important. There is only one stopper knot, at the short end. The other end is the free-sliding end.
Try this: Follow exactly what the video says from the beginning to the end. Then, try to loosen the stopper knot a bit, and wiggle it down towards the noose knot, and tighten it again as close to it as you can. This should give you the end result you're looking for.
ok i understand everything but this...
you're NOT supossed to be push on your carotid artery with your fingers, right?
you are, however, supossed to have the noose push onto your carotid artery, by moving your head down?
after positioning the noose in the exact spot.
but my concern with that, is that the noose slips and moves away from the carotid artery.
because the carotid artery seems so small, it's such a small spot on the neck.
how can be sure the rope doesn't move away from the carotid artery?
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but if the rope DID accidentally move away from the carotid atery,
AFTER you already passed out, would you still die?
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