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406blue

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Sep 7, 2018
379
Thankyou for all your input. I didn't realise that lost all hope was so hopeless in their content, but we have to look somewhere for advice. In the end it's down to personal practice i suppose in finding the right point of pressure on the right artery in a way that doesn't constrict the windpipe and seeing if it feels like you will lose consciousness if it goes on much longer. Another question is, which combination of drugs are most effective in bringing about swift unconsciousness. Vodka seems to be the alcohol of choice as it is relatively benign in taste. Anti nausea drugs have been mentioned to prevent vomiting, otherwise i would tend to stick to diazepam. If what you suggest is true and that the noose was loosened by a semi conscious body, one needs to get to sleep as rapidly and deeply as possible.
 
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Shay

Experienced
Aug 31, 2018
277
Thankyou for all your input. I didn't realise that lost all hope was so hopeless in their content, but we have to look somewhere for advice. In the end it's down to personal practice i suppose in finding the right point of pressure on the right artery in a way that doesn't constrict the windpipe and seeing if it feels like you will lose consciousness if it goes on much longer. Another question is, which combination of drugs are most effective in bringing about swift unconsciousness. Vodka seems to be the alcohol of choice as it is relatively benign in taste. Anti nausea drugs have been mentioned to prevent vomiting, otherwise i would tend to stick to diazepam. If what you suggest is true and that the noose was loosened by a semi conscious body, one needs to get to sleep as rapidly and deeply as possible.
Is lost all hope inaccurate? In what way? He tends to quote GEO Stone who is supposedly an expert.
It could be while unconscious your body thrashed and the knot came undone and loosened.
 
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DarwinCharlie

Member
Sep 23, 2018
12
hey if you are attempting a rope on the doorknob, swung over the door and partial suspension on the opposite side should you close the door? Also do doors usually hold strong enough? The doorknob seemed sturdy when I tested it. Thanks
 
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Member
Sep 13, 2018
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How do I attach the other end of the rope to the horizontal rail?
 
Punished snake

Punished snake

Student
Sep 9, 2018
110
I can't make myself faint from pressing the carotid and jugular
 
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Punished snake

Punished snake

Student
Sep 9, 2018
110
You're only getting the jugulars. A thin neck is good. That makes it easier. You shouldn't feel like you are "choking yourself" though. You have the noose too high. Place it towards the bottom of your neck with the knot in the back. Not all the way at the bottom......but close. Below your adam's apple. If still not working then you are simply not applying enough pressure. You should feel tingling and your vision should start to go white or black after only a matter of seconds. You will instantly know when you've got it. There's nothing else to it.
So do I have to place the noose above or below adamsapple? I've been trying to faint myself but I can't do it. I even kept choking for two minutes straight and got no result. Either I have no jugular and carotid at all, which is unlikely, or I'm doing it wrong. And I don't want, when the time comes, to fail my partial hanging (I'll use position 3 from a tree branch)
 
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Dani Paradox

Dani Paradox

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Aug 17, 2018
981
So do I have to place the noose above or below adamsapple? I've been trying to faint myself but I can't do it. I even kept choking for two minutes straight and got no result. Either I have no jugular and carotid at all, which is unlikely, or I'm doing it wrong. And I don't want, when the time comes, to fail my partial hanging (I'll use position 3 from a tree branch)
Really, either/or will still get the carotids when you apply enough pressure. But below the adam's apple seems to be much more comfortable, as it doesn't restrict the airway nearly as much
 
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Punished snake

Punished snake

Student
Sep 9, 2018
110
Really, either/or will still get the carotids when you apply enough pressure. But below the adam's apple seems to be much more comfortable, as it doesn't restrict the airway nearly as much
When I'll do it, considering the logistics, I'll basically "sit in the air", so I'll have to be at least 90% sure I'm doing it right. Far by now I either got nothing or just a feeling of head about to explode
 
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Dani Paradox

Dani Paradox

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Aug 17, 2018
981
When I'll do it, considering the logistics, I'll basically "sit in the air", so I'll have to be at least 90% sure I'm doing it right. Far by now I either got nothing or just a feeling of head about to explode
Yeah, if your head just feels like it's going to explode and nothing more, then you're only getting the jugulars.. Just apply a bit more pressure. You'll immediately know if you get it. Literally only takes seconds.
 
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Punished snake

Student
Sep 9, 2018
110
Yeah, if your head just feels like it's going to explode and nothing more, then you're only getting the jugulars.. Just apply a bit more pressure. You'll immediately know if you get it. Literally only takes seconds.
I'll have to get it good first try.
 
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111aaa

111aaa

h82b
Sep 22, 2018
28
You still with us?

Yes, I failed. I felt panic and quit. Since then I'm practicing every day and tomorrow I will try it again but still scared so much. It's a torture, not a peaceful method as I thought according to the net sources.
 
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NoHope

Member
Aug 7, 2018
44
I might have found a trick to pass out faster. Does it work for anyone else or is it just me?

Basically, have the knot positioned at the back of your neck. Tighten the noose, and, while you are pushing downwards and applying pressure on your neck, tilt your head backwards and push harder against the knot/rope.

When I do that my vision almost immediately goes black. Anyone else?
 
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Lra888

Lra888

Enlightened
Sep 30, 2018
1,140
Like others have said people die masturbating this way so i'd like to believe that we're overthinking things. People do it in captivity without access to what we have.
 
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Shay

Experienced
Aug 31, 2018
277
Like others have said people die masturbating this way so i'd like to believe that we're overthinking things. People do it in captivity without access to what we have.
And in prison
 
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Chinaski

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Sep 1, 2018
3,361
Like others have said people die masturbating this way so i'd like to believe that we're overthinking things. People do it in captivity without access to what we have.

Suicide in prison is often a very ugly and painful affair, but you're right about the auto erotic deaths, my first test of partial involved a very speedy passing out, since then l haven't been able to find the sweet spot and have backed out after choking. I suspect luck plays a part here tbh.
 
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Lra888

Lra888

Enlightened
Sep 30, 2018
1,140
The noose is above the ground so I'm lying down but my head is suspended
What would you secure the noose to? Is this a method you've heard of before? Sounds appealing.
 
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406blue

Specialist
Sep 7, 2018
379
Have been experimenting, this is my experience. The rope is about 10mm thick, similar to that used for climbing and wore a pullover with a high neck. The rope was secured to one of the bolts holding the water heater in the bathroom, which is rock solid, about 5 feet off the ground. I placed the slipknot under my left jaw fairly tightly but just pressing and sat in a kind of crouching position, so my backside was about 2 feet off the ground. When i started to allow gravity to apply pressure, more so on the right side of the neck,as the knot was on the left, my head was forced to tilt to the right. After about 10 or 15 seconds i knew that i was going to black out pretty soon if i didn't stop, was becoming faint and my head was beginning to throb. I imagine if i had consumed a decent amount of whisky over the evening and then taken a handful of pills, (say 50mg xanax and 100 mg of zopiclone, cruched up with a spoon in some jam) that would have been that. Also some antiemetics during the evening to try to avoid all that coming back up.

One of the reason for taking some pills is that for me it can become a kind of out of body experience, the process leading up to an attempt. And so it can become in one's mind depersonalised and there is perhaps less fear, as this is not really 'me' that is going this. Not so much that you conk out before before you go through with it.

As for lying flat, another time i tried it in the car and lying down in the back seats, with the rope tied to the railbars and then closing the door on it. There was no way this was going to move. Slipknot was adjusted to the point where the weight of my head remained 6 inches from the floor when tight to allow for sagging and i lied on my side, again with the knot on the left side of the neck. I messed this up by somehow scrabbling the thing off my neck having taken the pills, i am guessing such a thing is more likely to happen if you are horizontal. I might also have been able to put my legs off the seat and onto the floor which allowed me to get it off, although i don't remember any of what happened. In any case, i felt less pressure on the arteries with this method before passing out from the drugs. Clearly the head may weigh let's say 10 kilos and a semi suspended one more like 60. Apparently only 3kg in the right place can be enough but it seems to me that just the weight of a human head makes lying down to do this more prone to failure unless you can get it spot on, or wear a very heavy hat.....
 
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TTh

Member
Jul 25, 2018
26
What would you secure the noose to? Is this a method you've heard of before? Sounds appealing.
Still looking for a spot where I won't be found so not sure yet, maybe a doorknob. I got the idea from Dani Paradox a couple of pages back
 
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Leo

Leo

Catching flight soon.....bus is too slow
Sep 28, 2018
110
Like others have said people die masturbating this way so i'd like to believe that we're overthinking things. People do it in captivity without access to what we have.
How people die masturbationg? That's only one thing in universe I can do perfectly.
 
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Lra888

Lra888

Enlightened
Sep 30, 2018
1,140
How people die masturbationg? That's only one thing in universe I can do perfectly.
Autoerotic Asphyxiation. Some people get pleasure from hanging.
 
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Leo

Leo

Catching flight soon.....bus is too slow
Sep 28, 2018
110
I heard that. But rare info available.
 
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Lra888

Enlightened
Sep 30, 2018
1,140
I heard that. But rare info available.
Many accidental deaths from that. So easy for them but difficult for us.
 
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Leo

Leo

Catching flight soon.....bus is too slow
Sep 28, 2018
110
Sometimes my erections are so fuking strong, I literally feel completely exhausted and energy less.
 
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Leo

Leo

Catching flight soon.....bus is too slow
Sep 28, 2018
110
I hope this way I die someday
 
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LifeisStranger

New Member
Sep 28, 2018
1
I'm probably going for a partial today. Like, just before the point where it would be a full, but not quite. Also, while it may sound like I'm complicating things, I'm preferring to ensure that my bodily instincts to escape won't be a factor. With a few restraints, when I step off my support, I'll be past the point of no return to free myself. But that's just me. I have everything ready. Just preparing myself over the next hour.
 
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Serene

Member
Oct 1, 2018
16
What is the best way to secure a ligature to a metal closet bar? In my case I am planning to use a 6ft cotton strap with a D buckle at the end (aka a yoga strap). Would link here but am having issues posting links.
 
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RIP2ME

Member
Sep 10, 2018
13
Can I do partial suspension by kneeling?
 
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