I hate that I was born female

[depthss]

Women are no more emotional in comparisons to men. Hell, I have no clue as to how people who use this site of all places still believe this.

that is just biology. it is an innate difference between men and women. males and females are not just different physically, our brains develop slightly different. we just ARE more emotional. it is necessary, as women are generally around kids more, so they need to be more emotionally empathetic and sensitive as a result, therefore, that is how we evolved

 

[EvisceratedJester]

that is just biology. it is an innate difference between men and women. males and females are not just different physically, our brains develop slightly different. we just ARE more emotional. it is necessary, as women are generally around kids more, so they need to be more emotionally empathetic and sensitive as a result, therefore, that is how we evolved

No, it isn't. Do not use the fucking "it's biology" argument. The whole "women are more emotional than men" thing has always been rooted more in misogyny, not science. Hell, most of the research on this topic is poor in quality and WEIRD (refers to research that mainly comes from Western Educated Industrialized Rich Democratic countries). That's not even getting into the difficulties of proving such a statement due to how multiple parts of the brain are involved in emotions, potential cross-cultural differences, and the ways in which pressure to adhere to social norms may lead to things, such as participants lying and downplaying how strongly they feel their emotions in self-reports.

Even when taking into consideration differences between the female and male brains, said differences are generally more apparent in certain parts of the brain over others. Only Some structures in the brain seem to be sexually dimorphic. The degree to which female and male brains differ is actually a hotly debated topic in neuroscience, with issues, such as neurosexism, usually having to be brought up when discussing stuff like this.

Ignoring all of this, you could also use the biology argument to make the case for the other way around. For example, in regards to hormones, you could make an argument in the opposite direction. "Men must be more emotional since they are more likely to act out in aggression due to them producing higher levels of testosterone on average, with testosterone being linked to aggression".

in my personal experience I have become more emotional from transitioning to a girl with hrt. You may just a have different experience

That doesn't mean anything. How do you know that your supposed increase in emotions couldn't be due to other factors, such as changes in societal expectations or due to the fact that being "emotional" rarely tends to apply to emotions that are considered to be more acceptable for men to express, such as anger and aggression, leading to you potentially being less likely to label yourself as such prior?

 

[Namelesa]

That doesn't mean anything. How do you know that your supposed increase in emotions couldn't be due to other factors, such as changes in societal expectations or due to the fact that being "emotional" rarely tends to the emotions that are considered to be more acceptable for men to express, such as anger and aggression.

When I first transitioned I didn't become more emotional cus I hadn't gotten hrt yet and only socially transitioned at that point (clothes, pronouns, etc). When i started to medically transition and take estrogen and blockers to lower testosterone I became more emotional was able to feel emotions in a more extreme way. Most trans fems/girls/women have experienced this for themselves.

Personally what I see here is that if you have more estrogen the more emotional you are. Generally cis women are going to have more estrogen so it makes sense to say that women are more emotional. Also I will say that I have experienced more anger and aggression on hrt but that could just be me. Trans masc/boys/men have also said they feel emotions less strongly when on hrt and take testosterone and blockers for estrogen so to me it shows men and women can have different levels of emotion. Obviously your experience of being a woman might be different and you may be less emotional than the average woman.

Also theres nothing necessary wrong with being more emotional. Its a neutral thing as some people will benefit from being more emotional but some people will be more disadvantaged by it. Just depends on the person.

 

[Hysteria]

I am a female living in a male body, and I feel miserable. I know that a female body has unique characteristics, which are not all pleasant, but living in the wrong body feels even worse. Why can't we exchange bodies? I'd exchange my body with yours, and maybe, we both would be slightly happier.

 

[lnlybnny]

I have nothing against my own body (I'm a woman), but I love women so I'm suspicious to talk about it. The women I admire and the characteristics I love about them have such power over me none men could ever have, I think they're the most beautiful creatures, they have such an overwhelming infatuation effect over me it's unbelievable, but I love it... I'd never want to feel that towards men, I never found a man truly attractive as I find women. I know that doesn't have much to do with your post but okay lol.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

When I first transitioned I didn't become more emotional cus I hadn't gotten hrt yet and only socially transitioned at that point (clothes, pronouns, etc). When i started to medically transition and take estrogen and blockers to lower testosterone I became more emotional was able to feel emotions in a more extreme way. Most trans fems/girls/women have experienced this for themselves.

Personally what I see here is that if you have more estrogen the more emotional you are. Generally cis women are going to have more estrogen so it makes sense to say that women are more emotional. Also I will say that I have experienced more anger and aggression on hrt but that could just be me. Trans masc/boys/men have also said they feel emotions less strongly when on hrt and take testosterone and blockers for estrogen so to me it shows men and women can have different levels of emotion. Obviously your experience of being a woman might be different and you may be less emotional than the average woman.

Also theres nothing necessary wrong with being more emotional. Its a neutral thing as some people will benefit from being more emotional but some people will be more disadvantaged by it. Just depends on the person.

Again, this doesn't mean anything. You are using a mixture of anecdotes and correlations in order to argue causation. That's not how it works.

Hell, your anger and aggression claims actually go on to prove my point. Most research tends to find that males are, on average, more aggressive in comparison to females. The general scientific consensus is that testosterone is likely linked to increases in aggression. It's to the point where sex is generally considered to be a predictor for aggression, along with other factors, such as if you have were raised by aggressive parents. If I remember correctly, males generally tend to display higher levels of aggression, both physically, verablly, and relationally, while females generally only display higher rates of relational aggression during puberty.

 

[depthss]

No, it isn't. Do not use the fucking "it's biology" argument. The whole "women are more emotional than men" thing has always been rooted more in misogyny, not science. Hell, most of the research on this topic is poor in quality and WEIRD (refers to research that mainly comes from Western Educated Industrialized Rich Democratic countries). That's not even getting into the difficulties of proving such a statement due to how multiple parts of the brain are involved in emotions, potential cross-cultural differences, and the ways in which pressure to adhere to social norms may lead to things, such as participants lying and downplaying how strongly they feel their emotions in self-reports.

Even when taking into consideration differences between the female and male brains, said differences are generally more apparent in certain parts of the brain over others. Only Some structures in the brain seem to be sexually dimorphic. The degree to which female and male brains differ is actually a hotly debated topic in neuroscience, with issues, such as neurosexism, usually having to be brought up when discussing stuff like this.

Ignoring all of this, you could also use the biology argument to make the case for the other way around. For example, in regards to hormones, you could make an argument in the opposite direction. "Men must be more emotional since they are more likely to act out in aggression due to them producing higher levels of testosterone on average, with testosterone being linked to aggression".

That doesn't mean anything. How do you know that your supposed increase in emotions couldn't be due to other factors, such as changes in societal expectations or due to the fact that being "emotional" rarely tends to apply to emotions that are considered to be more acceptable for men to express, such as anger and aggression, leading to you potentially being less likely to label yourself as such prior?

i believe that misogyny can play apart in this argument, but science still a major factor . i do not think it makes sense to ignore this argument and the research simply because you personally dislike the implication, at least this is what it appears to me. maybe instead of getting so defensive when this point is brought up, you could examine why you think women being more sensitive and emotional is such a bad thing? because, unfortunately, your upset cannot change reality.
yes it is true that multiple parts of the brain are involved in emotions. however, it is not just one part of our brains that are different. i recall reading a study where a husband and wife ( i believe ) were given electric shocks. afterword's, the same shock was administered to their partner. it was found that MULTIPLE areas of the women's brain were lite up, showing she felt the same way as when she herself was shocked. this did not happen to the husband. while i brought up being emotional as a negative, i do not think it is WHOLLY negative, but partly negative. i for one. would consider instances like this to be a STRENGTH of women. would you not agree? sometimes, the heightened sensitivity is a good thing, and we do have more of it. for better and for worse. and there was no lying during a self report during this study, their brains were hooked up.
it is true that cultural and social factors play a role, i agree with that, but i do not thing they create this difference, rather, they amplify it. i think this is evident in the fact that, in the vast majority of cultures, women are more sensitive. if this were fully a social thing, it would be more 50/50 across different cultures in different parts of the world.

i do agree that there is much debate over the exact severity of the difference, and that it is only in some parts of the brain. however, i do not think this discredits the point that women are more sensitive, as, although 'sensitive' and 'emotional' are quite broad terms, this is still something that is found to be true to at least SOME degree. i believe that the debate should not be over whether or not these differences exist, but over how major they exactly are.

men and women tend to react differently to emotions such as anger. this is not because men are more emotional, but because of our brain structure. this makes sense in terms of evolution. the area in womens brains that is responsible for these feelings develops closer to the area that is responsible for language/ speech ( if i am recalling correctly, forgive me if i am not. i can double check in a future reply if you wish). men are quicker to physical violence, but not to anger itself. womens anger is simply expressed differently, more indirectly. to expand on that evolution bit, would it not make sense for the less physically able sex to refrain from attacking a person twice their strength? this difference makes sense for that reason. and because we tend to be around kids more. it would be bad for a woman to get angry and hurt her child. so, the anger is expressed in a different way.
and on horomons, men go through far less major hormonal changes. these happen when they start puberty, when they have a baby, as they age, and in response to outside factors, such as stress. while women have these changes, they also have many more. the 4 phases of the menstrual cycle all cause severe changes in hormones.

again, i agree that societal factors CAN play a part. our differences in opinion seem to be because your belief is that this is the whole reason (please correct me if i am getting this wrong about you ), i believe it only serves to exacerbate an already existing difference.

 

[Hysteria]

I have nothing against my own body (I'm a woman), but I love women so I'm suspicious to talk about it. The women I admire and the characteristics I love about them have such power over me none men could ever have, I think they're the most beautiful creatures, they have such an overwhelming infatuation effect over me it's unbelievable, but I love it... I'd never want to feel that towards men, I never found a man truly attractive as I find women. I know that doesn't have much to do with your post but okay lol.

Me, too. I usually find women more attractive than men. I feel myself female, but I have a male body. Interestingly, although I want a female body for myself, I am sexually attracted to females usually. Would I be a lesbian female deep inside? So, is my brain a female or male brain? I would love to know more about my brain.

 

[OutOfThisBody]

Me, too. I usually find women more attractive than men. I feel myself female, but I have a male body. Interestingly, although I want a female body for myself, I am sexually attracted to females usually. Would I be a lesbian female deep inside? So, is my brain a female or male brain? I would love to know more about my brain.

Im asexual so the idea of people being sexually attracted to me grosses me out. And it seems like womens bodies are seen as more sexual to people than men's. I wasn't made for living in this world in every category of life.

 

[RosebyAnyName]

I relate to this a lot. I hate that I was born the sex that every culture in human history deemed only fit as rapeslaves and unpaid servants. Ignore everyone crying about internalized misogyny or whatever. The reality is that the facts confirm the horror of being born female, and nothing anyone can say about that erases that.

Every human on the planet is only alive because of the raping of at least multiple women in their lineage. One in three women are raped, and it was even worse in the past by a significant margin so the odds of someone being alive through no rape in their lineage is nearly zero. There is no such thing as a person who is alive today with no female rapes in their direct lineage. Women are designed to be raped, society only exists on the backs of raped women, and without women being raped, society wouldn't exist at all. Women are the rapeable sex, the proof is the fact that we all exist at all. Women are designed to not be as strong as men, and therefore can never defend themselves against their fate.

I hate being born this way, one of my reasons for wanting to CTB is so at least I won't be around should someone want to rape me in the future (and the overwhelming majority of people, regardless of sex, want me to be raped and advocate for me to be raped, be it because it's "their religion" or it's a man who things he "deserves" a tradwife, or society pestering me about how I need to get raped so I can waste my life on some stupid brat who I'm not suited to care for because I've already been failed by society).

 

[OutOfThisBody]

Not to mention women are more easily scared than men because they are weaker than them (Source), cry easier and more often than men (Source), are less likely to be geniuses than men (Source), are more sensitive to pain than men (Source), are broadly submissive during sex, which I find kind of disgusting and pathetic (Source), are twice as likely to have anxiety and depression than men (Source), are more likely to get leg injuries because of their anatomy (Source), and become overemotional due to hormone fluctuations (Source)(Source)(Source). I don't know what's to like about any of that. The only thing women have on men is giving birth, take that away and women are outclassed in every aspect of life.

The cause of most of this evolution wise is to do with raising children. Since I don't give a fuck about that I have no use for the weakness of a female body.

For those that would say strength doesn't factor much into modern life, my boss for a summer job a couple years ago, which had only women working at it by coincidence and involved us cleaning and moving furniture around (which required lots of time and assistance from dollys to acheive), once griped to me that she wished she had hired some men for the job because then our efficiency at lifting furniture would have been better. If I applied for the job and a guy did as well, the guy probably would have gotten it because strength is useful for getting starter jobs. Trying to get hired for non heavy labor jobs that require resumes and education is much harder and its impossible for women to get most heavy labor jobs for this reason and I only got that one through a friend knowing the boss.

Being asexual makes things more difficult for me, since most people sexually attracted to women are straight men, and men have higher sex drives than women and focus more on women's bodies as a source of attraction than women do on men's, women's bodies will always be more sexual than mens' in this world. I see it as a mostly useless thing.

I honestly also just don't understand how women like to wear dresses and wear makeup, its foreign to me and doesnt come naturally to me. It doesn't make sense to me why anyone would like it.

 

[Hysteria]

I teach at a University, and some of my best students are women. I don't deny that some characteristics of the female body can seem like a weakness, but despite their weaknesses, a group of my female students beat all males in learning.

Im asexual so the idea of people being sexually attracted to me grosses me out. And it seems like womens bodies are seen as more sexual to people than men's. I wasn't made for living in this world in every category of life.

I find it strange when people are sexually attracted to me because I enjoy the attraction, but I still hate my body for being a male.

 

[Namelesa]

Not to mention women are more easily scared than men because they are weaker than them (Source), cry easier and more often than men (Source), are less likely to be geniuses than men (Source), are more sensitive to pain than men (Source), are broadly submissive during sex, which I find kind of disgusting and pathetic (Source), are twice as likely to have anxiety and depression than men (Source), are more likely to get leg injuries because of their anatomy (Source), and become overemotional due to hormone fluctuations (Source)(Source)(Source). I don't know what's to like about any of that. The only thing women have on men is giving birth, take that away and women are outclassed in every aspect of life.

The cause of most of this evolution wise is to do with raising children. Since I don't give a fuck about that I have no use for the weakness of a female body.

For those that would say strength doesn't factor much into modern life, my boss for a summer job a couple years ago, which had only women working at it by coincidence and involved us cleaning and moving furniture around (which required lots of time and assistance from dollys to acheive), once griped to me that she wished she had hired some men for the job because then our efficiency at lifting furniture would have been better. If I applied for the job and a guy did as well, the guy probably would have gotten it because strength is useful for getting starter jobs. Trying to get hired for non heavy labor jobs that require resumes and education is much harder and its impossible for women to get most heavy labor jobs for this reason and I only got that one through a friend knowing the boss.

Being asexual makes things more difficult for me, since most people sexually attracted to women are straight men, and men have higher sex drives than women and focus more on women's bodies as a source of attraction than women do on men's, women's bodies will always be more sexual than mens' in this world. I see it as a mostly useless thing.

I honestly also just don't understand how women like to wear dresses and wear makeup, its foreign to me and doesnt come naturally to me. It doesn't make sense to me why anyone would like it.

Definitely the physical and emotional elements can be true. I do think more men being "geniuses" is more to do with upbringing than how your body works. Also your source says that there are more "idiotic" men so it balances the "genius" men tho there isn't anything lesser about not being a "genius".

There is nothing wrong with being submissive, its simply another way to behave during sex which compliments well with someone who is dominant. For me I like being submissive but its totally understandable to for you to find it disgusting as a sex-repulsed asexual.

I will say being more emotional and sensitive can benefit us in being able to have more extreme positive emotions and touch sensations and our evolution has helped us be more empathetic and understanding of each other tho I am not entirely sure whether it is evolution or hormones or just upbringing.

For me I like wearing dresses and skirts and more feminine clothing as I can express myself more with those clothes and to me are more comfortable than clothes like trousers (tho this might be to do with autistic sensitivity issues.) I don't really do makeup cus that's something temporary and I am too lazy to do that but other people can like doing it as a way of self expression or making themselves feel more pretty. I will say this is a positive for women as we have more choice in how we can express ourselves and look.

These positives may not benefit you sadly as they either don't help with the lifestyle and likes and dislikes you have, you get more of the bad stuff from things like being more emotional and sensitive or you are effected more by the negative effects of being a woman. It totally understandable to hate being woman cause of all the problems we face.

 

[enough of this]

I teach at a University, and some of my best students are women. I don't deny that some characteristics of the female body can seem like a weakness, but despite their weaknesses, a group of my female students beat all males in learning.


I find it strange when people are sexually attracted to me because I enjoy the attraction, but I still hate my body for being a male.

Maybe it's just a matter of what you're used to. I have pleasant thoughts of being born female. Maybe since my being born male hasn't gotten me very far. If I have a chance to reincarnate, I'll choose to come back as a female, if I get the choice. I think I would have a more understanding group of people if I were female. Males don't seem to want to connect very much. I think I would be less lonely as a female.

 

[OutOfThisBody]

Maybe it's just a matter of what you're used to. I have pleasant thoughts of being born female. Maybe since my being born male hasn't gotten me very far. If I have a chance to reincarnate, I'll choose to come back as a female, if I get the choice. I think I would have a more understanding group of people if I were female. Males don't seem to want to connect very much. I think I would be less lonely as a female.

Lmao I have no friends and my last friend who was female ghosted me out of nowhere and we havent spoken since.