I hate the "as long as you're alive" mentality

[SomewhatLoved]

I've seen a lot of people online have this rhetoric towards depression, mental illness, substance abuse, etc, that everything is ok "as long as you're alive". For example, if someone falls back on bad habits like self-isolation, laying in bed all day, not doing house chores, bad hygiene, or if someone relapses into substance abuse, etc, they will be told "it's ok, you're still alive". Almost as if life is this thing that's just always positive and valuable. It feels irrational. Why does it matter if we're alive when we are completely dissatisfied in every way with our lives, and despite putting in effort each day, we still fail and don't live up to our goals?

It feels almost irrational to me. It is my belief that there are circumstances in which it is genuinely a bad thing to be alive, and that sometimes it would be better to be dead. I'm sure I'm not alone in this, and a lot of people here probably feel similarly and are held back only because suicide is difficult/inaccessible, or other similar reasons.

I have been struggling with some of the same issues since I was like 8 or 9 years old, and I'm tired of it. I've tried. I think if someone offered me a pill that would kill me peacefully or the guarantee that if I kept working I could be happy, I would honestly prefer the pill. I've been through a lot of shit that I wish I didn't have to, and I carry scars with me that will forever affect the extent to which I can live the rest of my life how I want to. Trauma is permanent and all you can do is cope with it. I don't really want to cope with this shit for another 10, 20, 40, or more years.

 

[fedup1982]

Oh God yeh i hate that approach. Im fed up too. Even though my psychiatrist thinks I'm over the worst of it I'd happily take a pill that could end it all.

I hate how life is seem like some sort of precious thing. I feel like I'm being gaslit on a global scale by nature with all these humans going about their days making out like life is wonderful while I seem to think the opposite, even though I'm supposedly one of them. It at times even makes me question if such people truly are conscious and not just NPCs. Combined with wondering what consciousness actually is, my mind goes into thinking things like maybe earth is literally a gaslighting he'll for bad consciousnesses like mine. Idk

 

[Dejected 55]

Yeah... for me being alive is kind of the problem. I'm alive but not living.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

if they tell me " as long as you're alive" . i 'll say It's because i'm alive that i have all these problems. i didn't have any problems for 13.8 billion years before they birthed me into this hell into the torture chamber prison of a small animal. if i had the guts to kill myself today then all my problems would end today instantly and forever. plus i would lose the ability to suffer unbearable pain because i won't be existing. however if i can't kill myself today then tomorow i have to get up again and shower, dress, get clothes ready , wash clothes , wash clean every thing , declutter , fix everything then go to work work a job then come back and do more chores take out the trash, grocery shop, buy things, return crap, mail , and many other disgusting meaningless things . and doing any of that won't solve any of my problems for one thing i did all that and every day only to exist under threat of extreme torture or something really horrible happening to me. for example i could get brain damage from a fall car accident or stroke etc i could get some parasite or horrible disease i could get attacked etc. how do they do all this garbage every day risking unbearable pain for no objective reason and never ask why am i doing all this shit? however a shotgun to my head would've solved all my problems no washing dishes again taking out trash again fixing problems or broken things didn't fix my major problems i also got another day older and more decayed..

 

[xanthe]

i think any argument that favours staying alive no matter what is always based in irrationality. its always felt dumb to me cause nobody ive spoken to can give me a reason to stay alive beyond "it gets better" despite all the facts pointing to it not, and yet im labelled irrational :/ like im sorry im not the one blindly believing that to stay alive is always positive