Help I need some clarification on the rules, and don't know where to ask.

[WitheredWisteria]

Hi. I have some disabilities that can make it difficult for me to understand things, so I need some clarification on some rules. I appreciate any clarification you can provide, and any patience you can extend me.


Do Not:

Encourage acts, ask for encouragement, or help anyone commit any acts.
Do not encourage, suggest, manipulate, coerce, or help users carry out acts of any nature whatsoever, including suicide; only provide factual information and emotional support to those who ask for it. Do not try to get the community to tell you what to do, only you can choose your path and actions.

Post low effort, spam, or ask to be PMd (i.e., sent a Private Message).
Don't spam or make low effort replies. Spam includes sending mass PMs, unsolicited PMs, and making posts asking for people to PM you.

Post or request personal information, website links, or sources of ANY kind.
Don't post personal information of anyone, no matter if the information is public or not, or if you have been given permission or not. This includes posting or requesting identifying information of providers, contacts, of yourself, of someone else, or website links to providers (e.g., amazon products, ebay stores, onions, upload sites, independent sellers, etc). If you wish to share information with someone, do so privately, but understand you take responsibility for the risks of doing so.

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So from these, it sounds like I can't ask where to buy SN or any other resource for ctb, and I can't ask people to PM links to me for this DMC person or anywhere/anyone else. I don't understand what I'm supposed to do then? I have a firearm. I just wanted to take some SN first, and then after a few minutes use the firearm, that way I can make sure it works. Do I just have to figure it out myself? Am I misinterpreting the rules? Thank you for any help you can provide.

 

[Darkover]

repetitive post without any new information are considered low effort or spam

 

[rainwillneverstop]

Rules could certainly use an overhaul, but to answer your question; you're allowed to ask to be sources. But they must be sent via dm and not posted in public.

 

[WitheredWisteria]

repetitive post without any new information are considered low effort or spam

I cannot find the search function.

 

[Darkover]

I cannot find the search function.

i believe it is disabled for new users you have to post and interact more with the forum before it's unlocked

 

[WitheredWisteria]

Rules could certainly use an overhaul, but to answer your question; you're allowed to ask to be sources. But they must be sent via dm and not posted in public.

Thank you for your help. I apologize, but is that a typo? Should I read it as "you're allowed to ask for sources"? Not trying to be shitty, legitimately unsure and want to make sure I properly understand.

i believe it is disabled for new users you have to post and interact more with the forum before it's unlocked

Oh. That is odd, since I feel like it would mitigate this very issue. I've never encountered a search function being restricted on a forum before. Thank you for letting me know.

 

[Thomas599]

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Thank you for your help. I apologize, but is that a typo? Should I read it as "you're allowed to ask for sources"? Not trying to be shitty, legitimately unsure and want to make sure I properly understand.

Oh. That is odd, since I feel like it would mitigate this very issue. I've never encountered a search function being restricted on a forum before. Thank you for letting me know.

quick way to deal with this issue is to head to a different part of this website and play some of the games there.

 

[Linda]

There are a few things you must not do.
(1) You must never tell someone to ctb, or tell them that you think it would be a good idea for them to ctb. It would not be ethical, and it's against the site rules. That decision must be 100% up to them. It would not be against the rules to ask "Should I ctb", but nobody is going to say "Yes", even if they think it would be your best option. They might say "No", and explain why they think you should not - and people often do that.
(2) You should never tell someone what method to use to ctb. Again, that decision must be 100% up to them. You can warn them that some particular method is not a good idea, and why. (For example, jumping off a 30 foot tall building is not a good idea, as you are quite likely just to injure yourself badly.) You can give them factual information on methods (e.g. if you decide to ctb using SN then if you don't take an anti-emetic with it you are likely to vomit it all up). You yourself can ask questions like: "Should I shoot myself or jump off a building instead" - it's not against the rules to ask things like that - but nobody will answer the question, so there really wouldn't be any point in asking it.
(3) The bit about "low effort" is really aimed at people who make trivial posts all the time and rarely make any genuine contribution. It's OK to post that kind of thing occasionally - I know I do, and I think most people who post regularly do - but don't make a habit of it.
(4) The bit about personal information says that you must not reveal infomation about other people. That's to protect their privacy. Some members could be in real danger if their identity became known. You can reveal as much as you want about yourself, though I would strongly advise you not to reveal anything that might allow other people to identify you.
(5) Remember that SaSu is not a market place. No buying and selling in publicly accessible threads.
(6) Although not a hard and fast rule, it is also a good idea to keep all your posts polite. Don't be deliberately offensive. Most people here are having a hard time. Remember that, try to be empathic, and don't make things any harder for them.
If you follow those six guidelines, you won't have any problems with the rules.

 

[Droso]

No one will help you find SN
Period!
Sorry.

That's just plain wrong. I have sent important WhatsApp numbers to people who have asked in private. I have also received new sources for SN from others in private. People will also post hints on public posts.

But because of the drama with DMC, recent welfare checks and Ofcom's investigation, members are hesitant to help people who have newly made accounts. It is known that BBC and Ofcom have sent pro-life spies to gather information to use against SaSu. Yes, we are indeed cautious around new people asking about sources. But to say no one will help is just lying.

I cannot find the search function.

Here's a tip for new members who do not have access to the search function yet:

When creating a post, write keywords for posts you want to find IN the title. Suggestions for related topics will pop up. It's what I used before I unlocked the search function.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I suspect many of us have felt desperate to ask for sources. People do still request them. However, members are (understandably) wary of giving away sources. Especially to newer members. There have been journalists on the forum in the past. There's little doubt law enforcement is likely here from time to time. We also don't 100% know we aren't 'talking' to a minor- so, you can understand some people being cautious and others refusing point blank to share sources.

Members may also have mixed feelings themselves. They may believe that revealing sources too readily will enable another person's suicide. Perhaps even leading to them being accused of assisting a suicide- which is illegal in many places. So- while you can ask, it wouldn't surprise me if people don't respond. Sorry though. I know how frustrating it is.

 

[Stan Swiftie]

That's just plain wrong. I have sent important WhatsApp numbers to people who have asked in private. I have also received new sources for SN from others in private. People will also post hints on public posts.

But because of the drama with DMC, recent welfare checks and Ofcom's investigation, members are hesitant to help people who have newly made accounts. It is known that BBC and Ofcom have sent pro-life spies to gather information to use against SaSu. Yes, we are indeed cautious around new people asking about sources. But to say no one will help is just lying.

Don't EVER call me a liar! I HATE that. It tends to cause me to lash out. Then I get in trouble by mods... And everybody hates me.

Having said that... Allow me to rephrase...
NO ONE WILL HELP ME GET SN!!!
And I'm too stupid to pick up on hints.
So, I need direct links to what I need to purchase.
NO ONE ON THIS SITE WILL SEND THEM TO ME!!!
Probably because they can't.
I'll just continue my forever alone & miserable pointless pathetic existence in this Hell until God sends me to His Hell.

 

[Linda]

Don't EVER call me a liar! I HATE that. It tends to cause me to lash out. Then I get in trouble by mods... And everybody hates me.

Having said that... Allow me to rephrase...
NO ONE WILL HELP ME GET SN!!!
And I'm too stupid to pick up on hints.
So, I need direct links to what I need to purchase.
NO ONE ON THIS SITE WILL SEND THEM TO ME!!!
Probably because they can't.
I'll just continue my forever alone & miserable pointless pathetic existence in this Hell until God sends me to His Hell.

The situation with SN is that some people (I'm not one) do know the names of one or more suppliers, and they are sometimes willing to share that information, in a private message, with someone they can be 100% certain is not a member of this site to cause trouble for the site. The only way anyone can be sure that another member is genuine is by reading sensible posts from them over an extended period. You have been on SaSu for less than a month. That simply isn't long enough for others to get a good "feel" for what kind of member you are. That's nothing personal against you. It's just natural - and very sensible- caution.

I think @Droso just misinterpreted what you had posted. I don't think it was his intention to call you a liar. And after reading your brief post, it seems to me that it is easily open to misinterpretation.

There are many kinds of people on this site, and communication can sometimes be difficult. Misunderstandings sometimes happen. I would suggest that you don't get upset about them if they do happen. Just try to explain more clearly what you were saying - as you have just done.

You can get a lot of support and valuable information on this site. But if you start making aggressive posts, you are less likely to get either. Other members will just avoid you. It's a good idea always to keep your posts polite and calm, even when you don't feel at all polite or calm. (That's from someone who very easily gets angry and aggressive in real life. I try hard not to do it here.)

 

[soonnotkoei]

Rules could certainly use an overhaul, but to answer your question; you're allowed to ask to be sources. But they must be sent via dm and not posted in public.

does that mean we are allowed to explicitly share the link to the website, if it's in PMs?