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nomoredolor

nomoredolor

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Sep 7, 2024
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In case my method fails or is interrupted I am going to sign a DNR. And even if I don't ctb soon it will at least ensure I'm not resuscitated from a different cause of death. Has anyone else thought to do this? Will it be weird if I ask my doctor for one since I'm in my early 30s and not closer to old age?

Thanks loves
Anna
 
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Praestat_Mori

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I wouldn't say it's weird. There can be many things happening to us and we end up not being able to do anything anymore. Machines will keep us alive in the worst case. There's nothing wrong to have a DNR in my opinion.
 
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Alexei_Kirillov

Alexei_Kirillov

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Yeah I've done this, didn't need my doctor's signature but I did need two witnesses. Was awkward but I chose people that didn't know me that well so it didn't really arouse suspicions.
 
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theolivanderroach

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Sep 20, 2024
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I think it's good to have it just in case. If you doctor does think it's weird, you could always say it's a religious preference?
 
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There are many posts around that explain why DNR's are mostly going to be ignored in the case of suicide. So sadly i dont think this will help you in case of a prevented / failed attempt.
It will for common death situations, but not for any suspected suicide, much less by first responders, even if you've got it pinned to youself.
 
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waterrrrrrrrrbottel

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Good idea, just check the laws around it. My father essentially died with intent in mind, but he was so drugged and deluded from the hospital after signing the DNR that it got overturned. technically they still needed his consent but just check
 
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no.one

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This never crossed my mind for when i CTB, i mean... ive thought about it if i ever got really hurt and was in the hospital. Now i wonder if i could find a form online print it, and find a witness or two to sign it? would it still be valid? of course after reading @canijo response, i wonder if it would even work in the case of suicide in my state... does it vary by state or country? or do you think its mainly across the board that a DNR wouldn't work for a suicide?
 
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Just_Another_Person

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Here there isn't a formal/legal way to solicit a DNR order, informally the patient can ask the doctor but it is for terminal cases.

Not saying you should or shouldn't CTB, but regarding the DNR, would be a good idea to see how it works where you live because in CTB cases maybe the doctors/family can argue that you weren't in your right mind when you signed it and therefore, consider it null.
 
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AuroraB

AuroraB

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A medical directive at any age is a good idea as long as it's legal/notarized/official in whatever country you live in. Accidents (car, bike, skiing, etc) happen.
 
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nomoredolor

nomoredolor

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I think it's good to have it just in case. If you doctor does think it's weird, you could always say it's a religious preference?
Genius idea thank you!
There are many posts around that explain why DNR's are mostly going to be ignored in the case of suicide. So sadly i dont think this will help you in case of a prevented / failed attempt.
It will for common death situations, but not for any suspected suicide, much less by first responders, even if you've got it pinned to youself.
I had no idea about this.. thanks for telling me. How frustrating. We should have more rights.
Good idea, just check the laws around it. My father essentially died with intent in mind, but he was so drugged and deluded from the hospital after signing the DNR that it got overturned. technically they still needed his consent but just check
What an awful experience. I appreciate you sharing with me

@everuone else thank you for taking the time to respond
 
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canijo

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@nomoredolor , @no.one ill leave here a link to the comments where i read this, they explain it better than me
 
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MyTimeIsUp

Perhaps I'll be important when I'm long gone?
Feb 27, 2024
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I wouldn't be able to because of my history of 'mental illness'. You have to be of completely 'sound mind' so no mental health illness previously (including anxiety) and no noted previous attempts etc. A doctor won't allow it if you do, because it would be unethical.

Also, I don't think they listen to a DNAR in the case of suicide attempts. I wish I had one, but it would be impossible for me

Good luck though, I hope you're able to get one
 
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endofline2010

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Aug 8, 2024
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First responders (ie EMTs) don't adhere to DNRs. DNR/DNI are only for stays within a hospital.
 
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Trismegistus_13

Trismegistus_13

Your best is all you can give
Jun 17, 2024
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Hello Anna. I would say it is a positive action to create a living will or POLST. Many, many people do not have one when they are critically injured, and that creates a moral dilemma for physicians and nurses providing care for a patient when their family wants them kept alive at all costs despite no chance of recovery. Medical staff themselves often are DNRs because we have seen how much people can suffer. However, a DNR is unlikely to affect how paramedics, fire rescue or ER staff would treat your case. I am not familiar with all state laws, but where I live, a DNR order is not considered valid for intentional self harm. I really wish you the best.
 
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endofline2010

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Aug 8, 2024
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I am not familiar with all state laws, but where I live, a DNR order is not considered valid for intentional self harm.
I didn't know this, but very good point. Pretty much why if anyone is going to attempt, make sure to use a method with a high success rate. You don't want to need that DNR, because if you do, often you are going to have permanent brain damage. And if you think your life is fucked now, imagine if you had to live with reduced mental capacity.
 

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