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[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

Such communities exist on Reddit - r/foreveralonewomen. They have banned men from commenting because they were getting too many unsolicited DMs for relationship [source?]. Hence femcels do not exist.

It's somewhat deeper than that. Femcels call men who approach them "creeps". Meaning they are in a position to reject men, and thus are necessarily volcel, not femcel. Incels are supposed to have close to zero standards. While many incels do whine about how normies get their looksmatches (girls in looks similar to them), I'm sure many incels would date much, much down. In essence, they would venerate any female as a queen if she were indeed female and gave them love. But such females do not yet exist.

I for one can vouch for myself - while I'm not a typical incel as I've never been rejected irl (never talked to anyone irl lmao), I did nonetheless went a whole fucking year talking to a girl who was clinically mentally deranged (this is not a metaphor), hence I've demonstrated that I could have zero standards myself, yet she blocked me anyway. Because women either have high standards OR don't pursue relationships for their sake anyway.


The level of discussion on their main forum has dropped significantly over the past half a decade due to incessant moderation. Hence while the posts may be funny, there is no discussion anymore, let alone actual advice. All their threads consist of an unending stream of quotations of the first few posts, or "too long, didn't read". So that's a sorry picture.

For example, you would rarely see a post such as mine there, and I'm not even writing anything substantial.


Yes, they do think that way. There are plenty of desperate men who'd only dream of love, and who are unable to reject any girl at all. The reverse does not exist for girls.

...One other genuine issue I have with their forum is the preponderance of lookism and abnegation of mentalceldom. While I would never scorn the venerable and tight theory of lookism, autism does exist, reducing the male's status tremendously. Very few autistic chads exist to call any mentalcel "fakecel".

As to my case, I wish I were to try getting a gf according to some guide, won immediately, and turned out to be a massive fakecel. Literally a dream come true. But I doubt that could be the case.

I see, it just seems like a toxic echo chamber to me by the way you describe it, in the way that the advice or should I say posts that are there, only reflect with the reality of some people and thus those small realities influence the whole forum. I can 100% be convinced that some people there would not even be incels as you described them but just stumbled upon the site and got fed with the reality of some people and then took a radical conclusion about women.

I for one don't really like romantic/sexual relationships. So the concept of an incel really interests me. I do have libido and it honestly just pisses me off that I have to jack it once a week, it's annoying, I don't care , I can see how people could be beautiful and sexy I guess but it isn't something that I want to see in them, it's something my DNA wants to see in them and I don't care for that, could I have a relationship, sure. Do I want to? no. It wouldn't be something genuine and It's just too much work and especially in my last years I've been in a downward spiral, I wouldn't want to cushion my fall on someone else's back, no way.

Did you talk to that girl that had mental problems because you wanted a relationship out of that? or did you feel pity on her and wanted to help with no ulterior motives?

Also , why the guides and terminology like mentalcel, fakecel, volcel? I don't think there is really any guide to get a girlfriend or even a friend for that matter, I still don't get it entirely but I guess it helps understand. I just don't see the point personally, the way you describe it , it would be like being friend with a garbage collector just to have a friend and cross it off an imaginary list instead of being friends with a garbage collector because that just happens to be the predisposition he is in? I'm saying this because you talked about dating "low" , I guess you are saying dating girls who have problems as in financially, or don't look like a super model , is that those girls usually don't get partners so incels take the scraps?? that's dehumanizing or maybe I misunderstood.

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

Idk, maybe incels think that women can't be neets. I guess in their minds being a woman is in of itself a full-time job, so we will never truly understand what it feels like to be a neet.

I've met several guys who think this way
- "oh women can't be NEETs or struggle to find relationships" because we are all apparently drowning in support simply for being female apparently. Case in point, even some people on this forum thinking women getting harassed or abused is some sort of twisted positive because, "at least someone was interested, huh" when a woman discusses her past with being mistreated by a partner or potential romantic interest. Then some guys refer to women who have been abused and hurt by men as damaged goods for life too, when few people would speak that way about a man who suffered something traumatic at the hands of a woman.

I'll never understand how people think negative attention is better than none. Being lonely or constantly rejected is terrible, but being lonely and carrying the scars from previous abuse is a whole new can of worms in how it destroys your psyche. I know someone who grew up in a middle class house, with married parents in a loving relationship, multiple romantic partners and hookups over the years, who will always say I will never have it as bad as him simply because I am a woman. Really??

Seriously, it's ridiculous how tone deaf this sort of talk comes off. If a guy wants to attract women (who can potentially understand where they're coming from to about mutual NEETness or lack of skin in the dating game) all of this rhetoric about how women are inherently privledged and can't have bad things happen to us does not do them any favours in that department. Not having empathy for the people you want to bond with is extremely unnattactive to said people.

 

[Adûnâi]

- "oh women can't be NEETs or struggle to find relationships" because we are all apparently drowning in support simply for being female apparently.

Can I please give you support in DMs purely over you being female? Or would it be creepy? I'm asking unironically, and apologies if this is too direct. I'm not messaging guys like this, after all. And no, I'm not trying to prove a point.

I have been trying to help guys to prove I'm not a simp, but I cannot deny that helping females gives me physical pleasure (and no, I don't mean masturbation). And I'm pretty sure I'm speaking for a lot of guys, see the simp epidemic. Females inherently hold power to give us pleasure simply by bestowing their attention upon us.

At this point, I would expect being banned because I'm trying to give support to a female, that's what I'm vaguely aware of. Hence writing it in the thread as opposed to an unsolicited DM if it's indeed unsolicited.

Did you talk to that girl that had mental problems because you wanted a relationship out of that? or did you feel pity on her and wanted to help with no ulterior motives?

Just to clarify, that girl is NOT from here, here the vast majority seem to be high-IQ, and she was anything but. She messaged me over my Reddit post bemoaning my fate as a Ukrainian incel shut-in because she had apparently been looking for her Ukrainian friend? It's complicated and bizarre as she's insanely weird and lost in her world of shadows.

Did I pity her? Of course, as a Nazi, I inherently pity all life forms. Did I want to get into her panties? Yes, as she literally agreed to "be my gf" and come meet me in my room 9 months in the future, and I simply had to put in my best effort to text her every day at noon as she demanded for that to work out.

I don't think there's a contradiction necessarily. After all, for example, she takes her sheep on train to go to Germany three times. First time the sheep almost dies to a dog, the second time gets overrun by a car (no damage aside from monetary), the third time the sheep gets fucking confiscated. I never laughed at her and always supported her - even though she deserves being mocked...

cross it off an imaginary list instead of being friends with a garbage collector because that just happens to be the predisposition he is in? I'm saying this because you talked about dating "low" , I guess you are saying dating girls who have problems as in financially, or don't look like a super model , is that those girls usually don't get partners so incels take the scraps?? that's dehumanizing or maybe I misunderstood.

Well incels posit that girls cannot be alone involuntarily, if a girl doesn't have a partner, she doesn't want to have one. But yes, there is a general hierarchy of looks, so in pre-Internet and pre-feminist era, one would expect ugly people to mate with ugly people. But now even ugly girls can pine for a handsome guy simply because of the Internet which has enabled the hook up culture.

...Take it with a grain of salt as I'm a really bad person to explain it, and I DO mean it, I'm not a typical incel, I do not use their language because it's confusing and such. I don't understand how true it is, and what time periods it describes. My ideal time period - feudalism, where peasants just live in their village and that's it, getting cucked by the landlord style. That's the world I could vaguely understand (and die of smallpox lmao).

For example, "dating low" is indeed the term, but I never talk on such topics, so the term isn't even in my active vocabulary. Yes, any incel would be happy to date immeasurably low - and if he wouldn't, then he'd be a volcel by definition as he would have standards.

I don't see it as dehumanising, it's as human as it can get, haha. Describing what we see. But hell, many parts of this incarnated existence are disgusting - what about the need to shit, eat and sleep? What about begetting children for them to suffer and perish inevitably? All ugly and vile.

As regards the checklist - what's wrong with that? Yes, human experience can be reduced to such. It doesn't make it untrue. I could have a checklist of:
1) having an intelligent friend to talk to;
2) having a cute chick to get hugged by.

And neither of the points would pale despite being cringe to look at in such a dry list form.

P.S. Again, apologies if this is hopelessly derailed : ( No sex is the primary reason for my possible suicide, too, and it's not like I'd create a whole thread for it (I did a year ago, and maybe I should again?).