No matter how lonely I get I will NEVER use AI

[Grog]

I'd rather have these people ruining one thing at a time than everything at once. I have no power to stop them, so I may as well be happy it's not worse.

AI is a little fun and a little neat...that's it. It's a diversion that may amuse for a short time. You're enjoying that little diversion, and that's fine, having fun is, but I don't think they're anything but little toys for now, and they shouldn't be treated as anything but little toys.

I disagree. I think not only is AI fun and neat, but it is useful. I personally use it for language learning, color theory and fashion advice, and I think it gives good advice and insight at times. I don't know if LLMs are the future, but they are useful for me and I'm glad they're around

 

[sheeplit]

The only people that should use AI are those who understand the basics about it I think.

AI, particularly LLMs, is nothing more than a sophisticated guessing machine. It cannot reason. There's nothing remotely human about it. It is not moral or immoral. It is amoral. Never project human characteristics on it. It is not sycophantic, sociopathic, evil, or whatever else we might be inclined to describe it as (positive or negative), so much as it just regurgitates things that make it look that way.

Never use it for facts. If you do, use it for broad searches and verify everything after. It can be very useful for searching the net in a way you could never do with search engines like Google. You can't ask Google to list you a bunch of papers and significant figures relating to a particular subject, but you can with certain LLMs. Then, you can use traditional search engines to verify. LLMs are good for broad, surface level stuff, but terrible with particulars and fine tuning.

On the psychological side, LLMs could be used to spitball ideas or imagine things. You can bounce ideas with it to a degree and can help you organize your thoughts. But don't use it like it's a therapist or as though it has some understanding of the human mind. It does not. It's a tool with particular use cases, nothing more. Always use it with a critical and cautious mind.

On the creative side, it can be entertaining for media generation or roleplaying to a degree, among other uses. But never, ever treat it like it has some inherent human characteristics.

There's a good chance the problems with AI, including 'hallucinations' and constant errors, will never be fixed entirely. The likelihood of reasoning as an emergent behavior is also very low. But it can be optimized to become a rather powerful tool. People just need to be educated with the nature of the tool and its limitations. Otherwise, it becomes very dangerous. Particularly, people treating it like it can reason like a person and thus treating it like a person.

You can opt out of using AI. But I don't understand the hate. It's like hating a calculator. Maybe it's just the hype train you hate. That I can understand. But you do you, I guess.

 

[Grog]

You can opt out of using AI. But I don't understand the hate. It's like hating a calculator. Maybe it's just the hype train you hate. That I can understand. But you do you, I guess.

I agree with everything you said but especially resonate with this.

I think it's just one of those things where people who are miserable hate something that is popular.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

I don't hate Gen AI. I may hate the techbros that guide it towards their greedy desires, and I may hate people who don't label their AI content properly, or use them for malicious purposes, but Gen AI, as I said before, can have a bright future as an enabler for artists of all kinds, to automate the boring parts while humans do the creative part (Sort of how tools work) and as a way to enhance human reasoning, rather than dampen it.

 

[rainatthebusstop]

Eh, AI has been watered down into a meaningless buzzword at this point. It could be anything from the breast tissue scanner at the hospital to Google Gemini.

Anyway getting emotionally attached to your LLM of choice to the point of calling them your AI boyfriend/girlfriend is quite possibly one of the saddest things I have heard. It's not romance or friendship, it's you talking to a chat bot designed to always agree with you. It's honestly on the same level as getting into a relationship with your body pillow.

So yeah, honestly good on OP for not falling for that bullshit.

 

[princexhhn]

I don't understand why people ask AI things that they can just google. It's such a simple thing but they still use AI. So dumb.

I don't hate Gen AI. I may hate the techbros that guide it towards their greedy desires, and I may hate people who don't label their AI content properly, or use them for malicious purposes, but Gen AI, as I said before, can have a bright future as an enabler for artists of all kinds, to automate the boring parts while humans do the creative part (Sort of how tools work) and as a way to enhance human reasoning, rather than dampen it.

Are you an artist? If so, I want to know more about what you're saying. I just don't really understand it?

To me, art doesn't really have "boring" parts. Sort of. Every part of the process feels necessary for the end product or the vision I have in mind, and I'm sure other artists feel the same way. I always thought that the process was part of an art's beauty. And anyway, artists can't use it as a "tool" unless we cripple it's uses, because as long as it can generate whatever people want then nobody's gonna stop and real artist's jobs will be in danger. I mean, I guess artists can still use it, but that just adds a shady pro to the already existing cons list.

If you meant the boring parts as things like having to sketch the anatomy or background… I still do think it still falls into the "creative" part of the process. Every artist has their own way of drawing such things, to let an AI do it will clash with their own charm

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

Are you an artist? If so, I want to know more about what you're saying. I just don't really understand it?

To me, art doesn't really have "boring" parts. Sort of. Every part of the process feels necessary for the end product or the vision I have in mind, and I'm sure other artists feel the same way. I always thought that the process was part of an art's beauty. And anyway, artists can't use it as a "tool" unless we cripple it's uses, because as long as it can generate whatever people want then nobody's gonna stop and real artist's jobs will be in danger. I mean, I guess artists can still use it, but that just adds a shady pro to the already existing cons list.

If you meant the boring parts as things like having to sketch the anatomy or background… I still do think it still falls into the "creative" part of the process. Every artist has their own way of drawing such things, to let an AI do it will clash with their own charm

Not of the drawing/painting type, but I do write and make some music. I understand everyone has their own way of creating things, and some ways do not benefit from AI, but others do, and denying tools just means diminishing others` work just because they use a tool that is not "okay" to use. And as I said, labeling properly as "I used AI to help with X" is a must when working with it. Art is a very broad category for a reason: It's meant to be inclusive, not otherwise.

As for the cons, they're mostly there at the request of the techbros who wish to replace workforce with robots. They're the ones you must rage against, not the everyman who is curious and benefits from the end product in a non-harmful way. Since the AI bubble is going to burst, AI itself is going to be stripped of most of those cons in due time.

In any way, I do understand your concern and how it distills the meaning of art. As long as people use it consciously in moderation and properly label, though, I see no harm.

 

[princexhhn]

Not of the drawing/painting type, but I do write and make some music. I understand everyone has their own way of creating things, and some ways do not benefit from AI, but others do, and denying tools just means diminishing others` work just because they use a tool that is not "okay" to use. And as I said, labeling properly as "I used AI to help with X" is a must when working with it. Art is a very broad category for a reason: It's meant to be inclusive, not otherwise.

As for the cons, they're mostly there at the request of the techbros who wish to replace workforce with robots. They're the ones you must rage against, not the everyman who is curious and benefits from the end product in a non-harmful way. Since the AI bubble is going to burst, AI itself is going to be stripped of most of those cons in due time.

In any way, I do understand your concern and how it distills the meaning of art. As long as people use it consciously in moderation and properly label, though, I see no harm.

What about the environmental cons of AI, though? AI uses a large consumption of energy and water. The high electricity use, the carbon footprint, etc.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

What about the environmental cons of AI, though? AI uses a large consumption of energy and water. The high electricity use, the carbon footprint, etc.

That's for the training. Using them as an end user does not use any more energy than a high-end game on a PC. That's another thing that's the techbros' fault: They think just throwing more data and more power into training is gonna make them better, which is inefficient at best, and uses resources like crazy, harming the environment. In fact, everything these corpos do is inefficient and harmful to the environment, so no wonder AI would be the same on them.

People that train AIs at home do not have this huge consumption, which is why I want AIs to be something at the hands of folks like us, not mindless "progress is always good" corporations.

Again, the problem is the corporations and their techbros CEOs, not AI itself.

 

[deep-sleeper]

I just use it to debug my shit code, because I am too socially inept to ask my supervisors for help

 

[SchizoGymnast]

I'm completely opposed to AI for therapy or relationship stuff. I want the real thing or not at all. If I want chocolate ice cream, a plastic Fisher Price replica isn't gonna cut it.