Resource Non-methods that should not be attempted

[bitofftoomuch]

Gun should also be here. People think it's easy and foolproof but the reality is your SI will kick in and it's extremely easy for your hand to slip and you wind up just mangled for life. It may have a higher success rate than some of the methods listed here but it's not worth the risk for how horrible it can be to fail if you ask me.

 

[willitpass]

Gun should also be here. People think it's easy and foolproof but the reality is your SI will kick in and it's extremely easy for your hand to slip and you wind up just mangled for life. It may have a higher success rate than some of the methods listed here but it's not worth the risk for how horrible it can be to fail if you ask me.

Gun suicides have the highest rate of success and survivals are pretty rare.

 

[DavideKals]

mod note: this has been added to the suicide resource compilation at the top.

This has been made in response to the ever increasing amount of posts made about highly unlikely methods. Please read before posting about one of these methods or feel free to link if someone does post about them.

This thread is meant to prevent people from trying methods that are almost certain to not kill them but likely to cause harm, whether temporary or permanent. Any method listed in this thread should not be attempted by anyone, and should not be considered a method. I do not give advice on methods that will kill you, as it goes against my personal beliefs, so I will not be responding to any questions asking about them. This has been made for harm reduction to prevent people from ending up in a worse off situation.

Tylenol/paracetamol/acetominophen
An overdose of Tylenol has a probability of ~5% or less of killing you. That is an incredibly low chance. If you succeed, odds are it will be slowly over the course of days to weeks, or even months, as your liver slowly shuts down. This would be an excruciatingly painful death. Liver failure causes your skin to turn yellow, nausea, vomiting, severe abdominal pain, fowl smelling pale stools, and even the potential for massive esophageal bleeding. More than likely, however, you will throw up for several hours before returning back to baseline over the next few days. If you do seek medical care, you will be given the reversal drug and then sent to the psych ward after being medically stabilized.

Other over the counter medications
While over the counter availability differs from country to country, the rule remains that if it can be purchased without a prescription, it is not a method. These medications have been deemed safe enough by your country's government through rigorous testing that they feel confident giving free access to them. This means that the odds of you being able to overdose on it are very low. Once again, less than 10%, though the exact statistic will vary from drug to drug. Generally, no matter what medication you chose, the answer will be waking up in your vomit feeling like you're more hung over than ever. Things such as ibuprofen or other NSAIDs will do nothing but make you vomit. The amount that you would have to take in order to reach toxic levels is high enough that you will throw up before your body gets to that point. If you manage to reach lethal levels, it will be painful and slow, often resulting in severe abdominal pain, seizures and other neurological symptoms. Your kidneys will work overtime to flush it out of your system and you have a very high chance of waking up in a pool of your own vomit. Benadryl (diphenhydramine) is another common overdose (this is over the counter in the US, though I know it is prescription in other countries, however the consensus stands) that results in severe hallucinations. These are often described by people who have survived as absolutely terrifying. Following that is likely seizures and coma, however the odds of it being lethal are not in your favor, especially if medical attention is given. It has the potential to cause cardiac side effects, however all of this considered, the fatality rates are considered low, the highest death rate I was able to find was 14%, however this varies from source to source.

Prescription medications
This method has a lot more nuance to it, as certain prescriptions have a high likelihood of lethality when taken in the right doses, while others have next to 0 chance. Generally, most prescriptions have a low chance of killing you. Psychiatric medications are the most discussed on this forum, and are also on the lower end of having any shot at killing you. Antidepressants vary in chance of killing you, though even the most toxic (tricyclics) have only about a 14% chance, not a very good statistic. At worst, certain antidepressants have only a 0.5% chance. Other medications, such as those taken for chronic conditions, vary wildly, however the list of those with a high chance of killing you is significantly shorter than the ones with little or moderate chance. Obviously it would be far too tedious to go and list off all of them.

Cutting
This method is often sought out by people who have seen it in movies or TV shows. It should not be considered a method, as it is only in these shows to play it up for the movies. With a success rate of ~1-4%, the odds are the opposite of in your favor. While they make it seem like you can take a razor blade to the wrist and peacefully slip into unconsciousness in the bathtub, in reality it is nothing like that. The human body is wired to not be able to harm itself in this way. In order to die from blood loss you would have to cut an artery. The arteries are meticulously located beneath several layer of muscle, tendons, and other tissues. They are not meant to be cut, especially not on purpose. Even with wonderful understanding of anatomy, such as healthcare workers, you would have a very, very poor chance of reaching them unless you were in a state of psychosis. If you attempted to, you would find yourself halfway there before realizing you mentally and physically cannot get yourself to go any further. Your mind will stop you without you having any control over it. Many people argue that if they get drunk or high beforehand they will be able to overcome it, however this would impair your ability to properly locate and cut to the arteries. The biggest risk with this method is permanent nerve damage to whatever area you attempt to cut. Depending on how deep you get before aborting, you may end up with severe scarring and potentially anemia or other blood loss related conditions.

VSED (voluntarily stopping eating and drinking)
This method is often sought out by people who hear about it use in terminally ill patients on hospice. These patients are under the care of medical professionals who are prescribing them heavy sedatives and pain killers to ensure that they are in as little distress as possible, as well as likely in the late stages of dying in which thirst and hunger cues are lost. It is also rarely done in people who have reached extreme states of spiritual enlightenment. In general, someone who does not meet either of these criteria will not be able to succeed in VSED. There are currently 0 confirmed cases of this on this site, despite many, many attempts, myself included. While people are under the impression that consuming absolutely no food or fluids will kill you within 3 days max, that is a myth. The body has the potential to make it much longer on absolutely nothing. As you get further and further into dehydration and electrolyte imbalances, your mental state will begin to suffer. Your body will go to extreme lengths to get some sort of fuel. If you have any access to food or water, you will eventually be overcome with an ravenous, primitive desire to eat and drink anything in your path. You will eventually cave. And will then have put yourself through days and days of this for nothing.

I heard that some guy went for 18 days without food or anything to drink and still haven't died, probably VSED is the worst out there alongside overdosing paracetamol and similar medications.

 

[nottinghams]

Thank you Willitpass for this post. I think its great you are posting this because the methods you described are not effective, but can still lead to a lot of misery. This way you can hopefully prevent some people from doing that.

In terms of an effective method according to my research full suspension hanging works best, as long as you are uninterrupted for 30 min, and have a strong rope and anchor point.

I will say that CO poisoning was my initial method of choice but after reading about it a lot I am getting the impression there are many things that can go wrong.

Some other things that seem to me quite at risk of not succeeding (but with lasting condition afterwards) are:
- Jumping off below 50 metres (if you land on your feet you could survive)
- Freezing (you lose fingers, toes, even some limbs, but could be found or just survive)

about carbon monoxide poisoning. is it actually a bad method? I did my thorough research on this one a long time ago before I ultimately have chosen IV + nitazenes.
it seemed quite peaceful.

 

[Davey40210]

about carbon monoxide poisoning. is it actually a bad method? I did my thorough research on this one a long time ago before I ultimately have chosen IV + nitazenes.
it seemed quite peaceful.

I'm not sure. It seems to sometimes not work..

 

[nottinghams]

I'm not sure. It seems to sometimes not work..

what do you mean? how do you know?

 

[sugarb]

Gun should also be here. People think it's easy and foolproof but the reality is your SI will kick in and it's extremely easy for your hand to slip and you wind up just mangled for life. It may have a higher success rate than some of the methods listed here but it's not worth the risk for how horrible it can be to fail if you ask me.

It doesn't just have a higher success rate, it has THE highest success rate of any commonly available method. They're used in a bit over half of all successful suicides while only being used in attempts by a much smaller portion, iirc it's around or under 10-15%

And it's like a 90%+ success rate on average, which includes drunk/inebriated attempts with bad aim, attempts using less ideal guns (ie smaller ones with less margin for error), and attempts not targeting the head. An infinitesimally small number of people have survived an intraoral shotgun blast to the head that wasn't ridiculously misaligned.

CTB by gun is very, very far from attempting by cutting or drinking bleach and in no universe should be on this list
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Also, just to summarize a bunch of posts on here + the title post:

1. Don't try to kill yourself via another person/creature (trying to get executed, suicide by cop, pissing off a gang, jumping in front of a car or semi, animals, hiring a hitman)
2. Don't try to OD on over the counter drugs or other unreliable/ineffective compounds (Propranolol, Tylenol, Benadryl, paracetamol, acetominophen, diphenhydramine, benzos, weed, etc)
3. Don't starve yourself
4. Don't cut or stab yourself
5. Don't set yourself on fire
6. Don't try to electrocute yourself (toaster in bath, power lines, fork in socket, etc)
7. Don't shoot yourself somewhere other than the head or otherwise severely misalign a shot
8. (Probably) don't try freezing yourself
9. Don't try poisoning yourself with ineffective/atypical substances (alcohol poisoning, apple seeds / cherry pits, bleach, pesticides, antifreeze, etc)
10. Don't try killing yourself with CO from ovens/car exhaust
11. (Probably) Don't try to die in a car crash
12. (Probably) Don't try to kill yourself with machinery (table saw, oil derrick, a million other things)
13. Don't try to get food poisoning
14. Don't intentionally try to get an STD or other disease.

 

[dozer]

I'm actually far from ignorant on this, I work in healthcare and plan on CTB with two cardiac meds that I have full confidence will kill me.

Please name the two medications. I want to look into this. DM me if you prefer.

 

[bitofftoomuch]

It doesn't just have a higher success rate, it has THE highest success rate of any commonly available method. They're used in a bit over half of all successful suicides while only being used in attempts by a much smaller portion, iirc it's around or under 10-15%

And it's like a 90%+ success rate on average

is it so "commonly available"? if you don't live in US it's arguably just as difficult if not more difficult than 99% reliable poisoning methods. And even if you're in the US it still costs three figures and a lot of people don't have reliable transportation to a gun shop.

I guess for some folks it's easier to get than pills, but I still think even a ~5% risk of missing with a gun is worse than taking a higher risk of relatively less damage from, say, hanging or other methods. but i guess that's somewhat subjective.

 

[Leiot]

This isn't really a non-method, but I don't like the idea of using firearms. Just because we might want to end our suffering doesn't mean we need to inflict it on someone else. Someone has to find us and it doesn't matter what kind of training they have, they're never the same after seeing that.

 

[ladylazarus4]

This isn't really a non-method, but I don't like the idea of using firearms. Just because we might want to end our suffering doesn't mean we need to inflict it on someone else. Someone has to find us and it doesn't matter what kind of training they have, they're never the same after seeing that.

This isn't a thread for that kind of thing. Yes, it's violent and traumatizing, but all suicide methods will traumatize the person who finds you. The methods here put other people in actual danger or will almost certainly fail.

 

[MadAna]

To anyone discussing Propranolol - I've tried once. I'm rx'd it for a heart condition. I don't remember my exact dosing, as this was about 5 years ago, but I believe it was 4g of propranalol + 18mg of Clonidine + 90mg of clonazepam + 300mg of zolpidem. Along with 18mg of suboxone. And probably a fifth of vodka, can't entirely remember as this was before I got fully sober.

I did not ctb. I was mostly in and out of consciousness for 3-4 days, vomiting occasionally. All it did was ruin my liver/kidneys and body more than they already were. Sadly, the body is incredibly resiliant, which is shitty. Also - I have a ridiculous tolerance to... well, all of the drugs I just listed. So, don't let my story freak you out. But do take note that tolerance is once of the biggest factors to take into account when it comes to rx meds that can kill you.

And to other people discussing heroin, yes. It can work. Very well. I know from experience. But I'd advise getting a testing kit, so you know what's in it.

As someone else said, it was remarkably hard to kill yourself painlessly. Which sucks horribly.

Thank you to the person who wrote all of this info down. I see way too many people talking about OD'ing on Tylenol/Benadryl etc. And thank you to the people talking about VSED - it does not work, even if you're already very chronically ill. You'd need very strong opiates/benzos to get through it, if you even get through it.

in fact, as soon as i'm done here, that will be my choice. a big syringe with at least 5 g of heroine in it, considering my tolerance... maybe more so im sure. but the yellow one not the brown one, so way more powerful
yeah sa

Please do not try to electrocute yourself, especially on power lines..

yeah, saw many videos online... that's shitty!

 

[sugarb]

This isn't really a non-method, but I don't like the idea of using firearms. Just because we might want to end our suffering doesn't mean we need to inflict it on someone else. Someone has to find us and it doesn't matter what kind of training they have, they're never the same after seeing that.

It's about as traumatizing to find as a jumper I'd imagine, and it's not a non-method in terms of being ineffective, obviously immoral, or excruciating. As you said yourself, it doesn't belong on this list.

 

[ShadowedChaos]

Don't try to homebrew a toxic chemical or substance especially using common household items it's unlikely to succeed, can cause a lot of permanent damage in the longterm, extremely painful especially if you don't know what you're really doing, can harm people if proper steps or specific knowledge isn't given caution, and even if you have the formula and process correct if you aren't using the correct purity of substance you just don't know what will happen and overall just should be avoided in general due to the lifelong damage it can cause if unsuccessful.

 

[disheartened_lover]

thank you for posting this. finally

 

[WantingOut2]

It doesn't just have a higher success rate, it has THE highest success rate of any commonly available method. They're used in a bit over half of all successful suicides while only being used in attempts by a much smaller portion, iirc it's around or under 10-15%

And it's like a 90%+ success rate on average, which includes drunk/inebriated attempts with bad aim, attempts using less ideal guns (ie smaller ones with less margin for error), and attempts not targeting the head. An infinitesimally small number of people have survived an intraoral shotgun blast to the head that wasn't ridiculously misaligned.

CTB by gun is very, very far from attempting by cutting or drinking bleach and in no universe should be on this list
——
Also, just to summarize a bunch of posts on here + the title post:

1. Don't try to kill yourself via another person/creature (trying to get executed, suicide by cop, pissing off a gang, jumping in front of a car or semi, animals, hiring a hitman)
2. Don't try to OD on over the counter drugs or other unreliable/ineffective compounds (Propranolol, Tylenol, Benadryl, paracetamol, acetominophen, diphenhydramine, benzos, weed, etc)
3. Don't starve yourself
4. Don't cut or stab yourself
5. Don't set yourself on fire
6. Don't try to electrocute yourself (toaster in bath, power lines, fork in socket, etc)
7. Don't shoot yourself somewhere other than the head or otherwise severely misalign a shot
8. (Probably) don't try freezing yourself
9. Don't try poisoning yourself with ineffective/atypical substances (alcohol poisoning, apple seeds / cherry pits, bleach, pesticides, antifreeze, etc)
10. Don't try killing yourself with CO from ovens/car exhaust
11. (Probably) Don't try to die in a car crash
12. (Probably) Don't try to kill yourself with machinery (table saw, oil derrick, a million other things)
13. Don't try to get food poisoning
14. Don't intentionally try to get an STD or other disease.

But if one doesn't try any of these methods, then, unless they have a gun or N or SN, they're stuck here.
Some people DO die with some of these methods. There has to be a way. There just has to be.....

 

[sugarb]

But if one doesn't try any of these methods, then, unless they have a gun or N or SN, they're stuck here.
Some people DO die with some of these methods. There has to be a way. There just has to be.....

Orrrr they could hang themselves (just need a rope or cord), or drown (just need water, maybe weights too), or use a different reliable poison or drug, or jump from a great height, or use one of several gas methods, etc etc etc.

The issue with the methods listed is that they are either-

1. Excessively painful.
2. Excessively unreliable.
3. Likely to fail in some way and get you scarred, mangled, traumatized, arrested, crippled, and etc, lowering your QoL and making future attempts more difficult.
4. Obviously, blatantly immoral (puts other people's lives at great risk, requires forcing someone to kill you, etc).

-or some combination thereof.

obviously there are exception- if you're in a Siberian gulag or something and your only hope for death is running out into a snowstorm then sure, go for hypothermia/freezing as a method. but for the average person a method that has a decently high chance of survival (with limb loss mind you!) should be discounted.

And there's literally no reason to shoot yourself anywhere but the head lol

 

[IfyouareamanWinston]

Jumping in front of trains, this varies a lot but in gen they do not go that fast into subway stations etc. This method also harms lots of other people. I would say unless you live in a rural place with a fast regular train that goes by at night its not a very good idea at all

 

[Dena]

In regards to the medication would mixing 3 heart medications together be a total fail if they are at a high dosage

Hi, it depends on the type/strength of the medications, dosage and application. But you would be dying in agony, with a possible pulmonary edema as a result of heart failure. Not a pleasant way to go
The most efficient way is to inject yourself with a lethal dose of potassium. I'm a health professional and a lot of my colleagues died that way.

So all that being said, what IS the way to CTB?

 

[El_Jefe]

Hi dena can I tell you the dosages

 

[willctbsoon]

Don't Kill yourself by someone else:
Believe or not aggressive people(including gangs) don't want to kill you.They know, they will go to prison so even if you provoke them, they will refuse. One has to make another really angry to force them to murder you. So this method has no effect and even if they agree most likely it will leave you forever trapped in the disabled body (also from my research on the internet). So don't try it.
In many countries cops are prohibited from using a firearm against non armed civilian or don''t have a firearm at all. To go further a cop may simply decide to not to shoot you, or use non lethal weapon. So it is not worth the risk. And don't have any hope that friend or a sibling will ever agree in helping you out. So as it is said, if you want to get it done right, better do it yourself.

Don't Kill yourself by starving to death:
When starving, body fails slowly. So there is a large chance that your immunity will fail before you pass away. This means that any dangerous tissue/gut bacteria that was kept there by the immunity, will break free and enter the blood stream. Effects of bacterial blood infection (sepsis)are constant raised temperatures, shaking, dizziness and overall bad feel. On top of that there is an illness called Gilbert syndrome (you may have it and not know it). Which means that when starving, liver looses ability to remove billirubin off the blood and built up billirubin will poison your body before starvation kills you. If you developed bacterial sepsis, drink antibiotic Doxicycline to cleanse the blood.

Don't die by hanging:
Hanging yourself to death is harder than it looks. Best way is to hang by controlled manner. Instead of hanging from the ceiling, people hang themselves on door knob while kneeling down. It gives them a sense of control, which removes fear of death itself. Go and buy one of those electric cables with rubber on it, and rub it by hand care gel to let it slide and prevent digging into the skin. From personal experience, rope will not push into the neck. It will push from below, across jaw bones. Reducing pressure on blood vessels even more. Blood vessels on the neck are so behind the neck muscles, that they shield them. Even after pressing very hard, you was still awake. Until a point when blood gets so deoxigenized, Brain starts swelling and presses against cerebrospinal fluid layer (This I know from med videos). Headache you will get will be so painful, that it will make you to stop.


Don't Die by jumping:
To understand how jumpers die, first you need to investigate how they survive. If you look into cases of suiciders and construction workers who fell from hights; Turns outmost of them did not land by head -but by stomach/back or even worse,by feet. This cushions the crush and saves the head. Casualties off all are then taken in hospitals and die there in agonising pain,after collapsed organs make body to fail. Only way to guarantee that jumping kills you instantly, is if you jump from high enough building with weight strapped at your head. Which will guarantee that you will fall head first (your head will be pointing downward and touch the surface first). Even that is not enough. One must fall on even terrain and flat asphalt or else, uneven terrain will change body orientation at moment of impact and you will survive the crush. And Idon't even want to mention what it feels to be falling. Get on one of those amusement attractions that simulate fall and feel by yourself.In other words, It is a bad way to die and I would not suggest anyone to try it.

Don't Die by poison
One has to realize that when you are touching chemicals, you have to know exactly what and which proportions to mix to make a deadly poison.People don't know how to kill themselves, and in most of cases they torture themselves to death (this I'm repeating words from a medic who witnessed many poisoning attempts in he's career). There are so many combinations of how poisoning may end up that I would not suggest anyone doing it. Except the cyanide poisoning which is practically 100% guarantee that first you will loose consciousness and then die.

Very intereseting, thank you !

 

[TheLonelyReaper]

mod note: this has been added to the suicide resource compilation at the top.

This has been made in response to the ever increasing amount of posts made about highly unlikely methods. Please read before posting about one of these methods or feel free to link if someone does post about them.

This thread is meant to prevent people from trying methods that are almost certain to not kill them but likely to cause harm, whether temporary or permanent. Any method listed in this thread should not be attempted by anyone, and should not be considered a method. I do not give advice on methods that will kill you, as it goes against my personal beliefs, so I will not be responding to any questions asking about them. This has been made for harm reduction to prevent people from ending up in a worse off situation.

Tylenol/paracetamol/acetominophen
An overdose of Tylenol has a probability of ~5% or less of killing you. That is an incredibly low chance. If you succeed, odds are it will be slowly over the course of days to weeks, or even months, as your liver slowly shuts down. This would be an excruciatingly painful death. Liver failure causes your skin to turn yellow, nausea, vomiting, severe abdominal pain, fowl smelling pale stools, and even the potential for massive esophageal bleeding. More than likely, however, you will throw up for several hours before returning back to baseline over the next few days. If you do seek medical care, you will be given the reversal drug and then sent to the psych ward after being medically stabilized.

Other over the counter medications
While over the counter availability differs from country to country, the rule remains that if it can be purchased without a prescription, it is not a method. These medications have been deemed safe enough by your country's government through rigorous testing that they feel confident giving free access to them. This means that the odds of you being able to overdose on it are very low. Once again, less than 10%, though the exact statistic will vary from drug to drug. Generally, no matter what medication you chose, the answer will be waking up in your vomit feeling like you're more hung over than ever. Things such as ibuprofen or other NSAIDs will do nothing but make you vomit. The amount that you would have to take in order to reach toxic levels is high enough that you will throw up before your body gets to that point. If you manage to reach lethal levels, it will be painful and slow, often resulting in severe abdominal pain, seizures and other neurological symptoms. Your kidneys will work overtime to flush it out of your system and you have a very high chance of waking up in a pool of your own vomit. Benadryl (diphenhydramine) is another common overdose (this is over the counter in the US, though I know it is prescription in other countries, however the consensus stands) that results in severe hallucinations. These are often described by people who have survived as absolutely terrifying. Following that is likely seizures and coma, however the odds of it being lethal are not in your favor, especially if medical attention is given. It has the potential to cause cardiac side effects, however all of this considered, the fatality rates are considered low, the highest death rate I was able to find was 14%, however this varies from source to source.

Prescription medications
This method has a lot more nuance to it, as certain prescriptions have a high likelihood of lethality when taken in the right doses, while others have next to 0 chance. Generally, most prescriptions have a low chance of killing you. Psychiatric medications are the most discussed on this forum, and are also on the lower end of having any shot at killing you. Antidepressants vary in chance of killing you, though even the most toxic (tricyclics) have only about a 14% chance, not a very good statistic. At worst, certain antidepressants have only a 0.5% chance. Other medications, such as those taken for chronic conditions, vary wildly, however the list of those with a high chance of killing you is significantly shorter than the ones with little or moderate chance. Obviously it would be far too tedious to go and list off all of them.

Cutting
This method is often sought out by people who have seen it in movies or TV shows. It should not be considered a method, as it is only in these shows to play it up for the movies. With a success rate of ~1-4%, the odds are the opposite of in your favor. While they make it seem like you can take a razor blade to the wrist and peacefully slip into unconsciousness in the bathtub, in reality it is nothing like that. The human body is wired to not be able to harm itself in this way. In order to die from blood loss you would have to cut an artery. The arteries are meticulously located beneath several layer of muscle, tendons, and other tissues. They are not meant to be cut, especially not on purpose. Even with wonderful understanding of anatomy, such as healthcare workers, you would have a very, very poor chance of reaching them unless you were in a state of psychosis. If you attempted to, you would find yourself halfway there before realizing you mentally and physically cannot get yourself to go any further. Your mind will stop you without you having any control over it. Many people argue that if they get drunk or high beforehand they will be able to overcome it, however this would impair your ability to properly locate and cut to the arteries. The biggest risk with this method is permanent nerve damage to whatever area you attempt to cut. Depending on how deep you get before aborting, you may end up with severe scarring and potentially anemia or other blood loss related conditions.

VSED (voluntarily stopping eating and drinking)
This method is often sought out by people who hear about it use in terminally ill patients on hospice. These patients are under the care of medical professionals who are prescribing them heavy sedatives and pain killers to ensure that they are in as little distress as possible, as well as likely in the late stages of dying in which thirst and hunger cues are lost. It is also rarely done in people who have reached extreme states of spiritual enlightenment. In general, someone who does not meet either of these criteria will not be able to succeed in VSED. There are currently 0 confirmed cases of this on this site, despite many, many attempts, myself included. While people are under the impression that consuming absolutely no food or fluids will kill you within 3 days max, that is a myth. The body has the potential to make it much longer on absolutely nothing. As you get further and further into dehydration and electrolyte imbalances, your mental state will begin to suffer. Your body will go to extreme lengths to get some sort of fuel. If you have any access to food or water, you will eventually be overcome with an ravenous, primitive desire to eat and drink anything in your path. You will eventually cave. And will then have put yourself through days and days of this for nothing.

So basically the consequences of having a Tylenol overdose are the same as paracetamol? It's inconvenient because it's too painful?

 

[willitpass]

So basically the consequences of having a Tylenol overdose are the same as paracetamol? It's inconvenient because it's too painful?

paracetamol is Tylenol. They are the same thing. And it is not "inconvenient", it is agonizing and slow. If it kills you at all (which is statistically very unlikely) it will be over the course of months from liver failure.

 

[Tonkpils]

So basically the consequences of having a Tylenol overdose are the same as paracetamol? It's inconvenient because it's too painful?

They are the same drug, acetaminophen. We call it Tylenol in the US because it's a big brand name.

Edit- beat me to it lol, absolutely correct

 

[TheLonelyReaper]

paracetamol is Tylenol. They are the same thing. And it is not "inconvenient", it is agonizing and slow. If it kills you at all (which is statistically very unlikely) it will be over the course of months from liver failure.

Internet sources say otherwise. It says the lethal amount of paracetamol for an adult man is 7.5 grams in 24 hours. This is the equivalent of 8 1000mg paracetamol pills or 16 500mg

 

[willitpass]

Internet sources say otherwise. It says the lethal amount of paracetamol for an adult man is 7.5 grams in 24 hours. This is the equivalent of 8 1000mg paracetamol pills or 16 500mg

I both work in healthcare and overdose on Tylenol often as a form of self harm so I can tell you confidently from both work and personal experience that is not correct. Over 4000mg/day has the potential for liver damage, and over 8000mg/day is considered a pretty big overdose, but it is not going to kill you. I have seen patients take full bottles and get the antidote and be just fine. I myself was taking 9000mg/day for weeks at a time and while nauseous and feeling sick all the time, I was very much still alive. What sources will say is a lethal dose of anything is often not truly a lethal dose. It doesn't mean it's healthy or good for you, but the odds of it killing you are extremely slim. And again, if it does kill you, it will be from liver failure, which is not a quick process.

 

[El_Jefe]

Im looking at amplopdioine 2,000 mg and added propranolol 300 mg . Since I have it don't think that dosage of propranolol is going to do much but mixing it should help .cant wait for sn due to parents being wary of the stuff coming in

 

[WantingOut2]

Orrrr they could hang themselves (just need a rope or cord), or drown (just need water, maybe weights too), or use a different reliable poison or drug, or jump from a great height, or use one of several gas methods, etc etc etc.

The issue with the methods listed is that they are either-

1. Excessively painful.
2. Excessively unreliable.
3. Likely to fail in some way and get you scarred, mangled, traumatized, arrested, crippled, and etc, lowering your QoL and making future attempts more difficult.
4. Obviously, blatantly immoral (puts other people's lives at great risk, requires forcing someone to kill you, etc).

-or some combination thereof.

obviously there are exception- if you're in a Siberian gulag or something and your only hope for death is running out into a snowstorm then sure, go for hypothermia/freezing as a method. but for the average person a method that has a decently high chance of survival (with limb loss mind you!) should be discounted.

And there's literally no reason to shoot yourself anywhere but the head lol

I'm sorry, I just was so dispirited to see ways in the list (I'd have to look it over again), at least a couple I was thinking maybe could be my way out. I'm desperate and I don't know a way that's available to me where I can do it successfully, I don't know. I'm very isolated and today got worse news about my life and just need a way to finally end this f***ing life.
I didn't mean anything bad for anybody should be tried - I just don't know a way out of this living Hell.

 

[sugarb]

I'm sorry, I just was so dispirited to see ways in the list (I'd have to look it over again), at least a couple I was thinking maybe could be my way out. I'm desperate and I don't know a way that's available to me where I can do it successfully, I don't know. I'm very isolated and today got worse news about my life and just need a way to finally end this f***ing life.
I didn't mean anything bad for anybody should be tried - I just don't know a way out of this living Hell.

No worries, i get it dude :)
and don't worry, no matter what happens you'll get out eventually one way or another.

 

[hadenoughscotland]

I'm actually far from ignorant on this, I work in healthcare and plan on CTB with two cardiac meds that I have full confidence will kill me. I don't advise people on proper methods as I don't like the concept of being part of helping someone CTB even inadvertently, I only advise people on what not to do in order to prevent harm. As such I will not be giving any advice on what medications do fall into the highly lethal list. If someone wants to go that route they will have to figure it out without my help. I apologize for the attitude as I sometimes give a bad vibe through text since tone of voice is lacking.

Hey I likeur mothodwould you be able to help me x