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princexhhn

princexhhn

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Sep 26, 2023
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As a gay man… I don't know how to feel about it. It makes me uncomfortable

What do you guys think? I'd like to hear people's perspectives on this
 
amerie

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I'm a lady so idk if my opinion matters but I also find it weird, like I mean I don't think people should be censored from reading gay media but purposefully seeking it out and ignoring any other romance genre is screaming fetish. I'm pretty sure I've seen some Yaoi fetishizers being against gay marriage and stuff too.
 
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I'm a lady so idk if my opinion matters but I also find it weird, like I mean I don't think people should be censored from reading gay media but purposefully seeking it out and ignoring any other romance genre is screaming fetish. I'm pretty sure I've seen some Yaoi fetishizers being against gay marriage and stuff too.
Yeah exactly! Gay media is just romance, just like others. It feels weird for it to suddenly just become a really specific genre when it's really just romance all the same. They purposefully only seek out mlm media which just feels weird. I'd understand if they were queer guys but… I'm 99.9% sure that fujoshis are only girls. I auto-block fujoshis most of the time because of how weird it feels when I fit into the standard of what they are obsessing over…
 
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Yeah exactly! Gay media is just romance, just like others. It feels weird for it to suddenly just become a really specific genre when it's really just romance all the same. They purposefully only seek out mlm media which just feels weird. I'd understand if they were queer guys but… I'm 99.9% sure that fujoshis are only girls. I auto-block fujoshis most of the time because of how weird it feels when I fit into the standard of what they are obsessing over…
Exactly like as an Asian person it's giving people who ONLY listen to kpop or watch anime and refuse to watch or listen to anything else and start acting chronically online about it 😭
 
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Exactly like as an Asian person it's giving people who ONLY listen to kpop or watch anime and refuse to watch or listen to anything else and start acting chronically online about it 😭
They think they're so "cultured" too 😓🥲

When I tell others I'm Chinese I have the small fear that they are one of those Chinese-BL obsessive people. I have literally met several it was so uncomfortable.
 
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I didn't know what fujoshis is so I had to look it up:
"a Japanese term that refers to female fans of media focusing on gay male relationships, or Boys' Love (BL); and yes, fujoshi are into yaoi too, but that's generally considered the NSFW subset of BL."​

At first glance, I feel like this is just porn. In general, men are visual creatures and women are emotional creatures. So could it be that the way lesbian porn stimulates men with visuals, gay men romance (fujoshi) stimulates women emotionally? Maybe there isn't always a sexual element involved in fujoshis, but I think the comparison is still relevant. Correct me if wrong though.

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I can't really relate to this. But I can understand how discomforting it is when strangers project their fantasies onto you, especially if they use you with no regard for your feelings.
 
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As a gay man… I don't know how to feel about it. It makes me uncomfortable

What do you guys think? I'd like to hear people's perspectives on this
fujo as a young kid, became trans bc i identify with males more in stories than women. i recognize the potential for fetishization when ladies don't want to read anything else like @amerie said. it's a demographic of cis women reading gay stories written by other cis women, often placing the top in a traditionally "male" role and the bottom as their wish fulfillment "submissive" role, feminine but not a girl. the popularity of twinks and feminine men are a good example of what draws fujos in, a man with andrognyous or girly features, rather than a man with body hair or muscles. the same body standards of a woman. the quantity of yaoi drawn by cis women is honestly astonishing. i don't have a strictly negative view on fujos because i recognize the thought patterns that lead to girls wanting to look at guy on guy porn. i held internal misogyny towards myself, since i generally hated being a woman and couldn't relate to the generic female experience in typical shoujo or josei romances. i feel like fujos can also come from a strict or religious family that make gay men (gay sex by extension) a paraphilia for them that they eventually grow out of, because it's taboo but also strictly a fantasy. this can also tie into the popularity of age gap romances for young girls, because they don't realize the implications of a real life older man wanting to date them.

"According to the results of her qualitative research, ten distinct motive dimensions could be identified. The first, "Pure" love without gender dimension refers to a motive to view/read romantic contents in which gender differences are not present. The Pro-gay attitude/forbidden & transgressive love dimension represents a motive to view/read materials that portray a positive picture of homosexual men. Identification/self-analysis refers to yaoi viewers' and readers' motive to better understand their own feelings and dilemmas. The Melodramatic/emotional elements dimension represents a motive to experience intense emotions. Dislike for standard romances/shoujo reflects a motive to avoid heterosexual romance stories (e.g., shoujo) due to their often one-dimensional female characters and 'boring' narratives. A female-oriented romantic/erotic genre dimension refers to a motive to consume yaoi because it caters to women's narrative preferences. Pure escapism/lack of reality reflects a motive to escape daily life. Art and aesthetics represents a motive to view/read yaoi for its distinctive graphic style. The Pure entertainment dimension refers to a motive of seeking relaxation and entertainment. Finally, Arousing/sexually titillating reflects a motive of seeking sexually arousing content."

here's a paper I found after googling why girls like BLs more, to see what other people's responses were. yaoi and yuri are very popular the opposite sexes, as well as the same sexes. i do find myself making jokes about yaoi and yuri, but the popularization of consuming gay content in the 2000s may be a factor of why there's suddenly so much discussion about it online. fujos are still a relatively niche community, so it's easy to have an outsider's perspective. i think that fetishizing, identity, and the way we connect to stories is complex, but there's also horny teen girls that are really into gay guys. i think it's really interesting to think about the ties between transitioning and consuming BL or GL, because i also know a trans girl who would read a lot of lesbian romances before coming to terms with her identity. a manga called "inside mari" covers the perversion of a man being attracted to the female body after switching bodies with a girl.

a south korean manhwa called "killing stalking" is an infamous toxic yaoi comic that focuses on an abusive relationship between a masculine man and weak femme man, something i read back in high school with another fujo girl. i think the shock factor to young girls, as well as the adrenaline rush from reading a psychological horror/forced romance is a good blueprint for what makes a person interested in BL. the need for escapsim makes people seek out all kind of content, especially sexual.
 
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fujo as a young kid, became trans bc i identify with males more in stories than women. i recognize the potential for fetishization when ladies don't want to read anything else like @amerie said. it's a demographic of cis women reading gay stories written by other cis women, often placing the top in a traditionally "male" role and the bottom as their wish fulfillment "submissive" role, feminine but not a girl. the popularity of twinks and feminine men are a good example of what draws fujos in, a man with andrognyous or girly features, rather than a man with body hair or muscles. the same body standards of a woman. the quantity of yaoi drawn by cis women is honestly astonishing. i don't have a strictly negative view on fujos because i recognize the thought patterns that lead to girls wanting to look at guy on guy porn. i held internal misogyny towards myself, since i generally hated being a woman and couldn't relate to the generic female experience in typical shoujo or josei romances. i feel like fujos can also come from a strict or religious family that make gay men (gay sex by extension) a paraphilia for them that they eventually grow out of, because it's taboo but also strictly a fantasy. this can also tie into the popularity of age gap romances for young girls, because they don't realize the implications of a real life older man wanting to date them.

"According to the results of her qualitative research, ten distinct motive dimensions could be identified. The first, "Pure" love without gender dimension refers to a motive to view/read romantic contents in which gender differences are not present. The Pro-gay attitude/forbidden & transgressive love dimension represents a motive to view/read materials that portray a positive picture of homosexual men. Identification/self-analysis refers to yaoi viewers' and readers' motive to better understand their own feelings and dilemmas. The Melodramatic/emotional elements dimension represents a motive to experience intense emotions. Dislike for standard romances/shoujo reflects a motive to avoid heterosexual romance stories (e.g., shoujo) due to their often one-dimensional female characters and 'boring' narratives. A female-oriented romantic/erotic genre dimension refers to a motive to consume yaoi because it caters to women's narrative preferences. Pure escapism/lack of reality reflects a motive to escape daily life. Art and aesthetics represents a motive to view/read yaoi for its distinctive graphic style. The Pure entertainment dimension refers to a motive of seeking relaxation and entertainment. Finally, Arousing/sexually titillating reflects a motive of seeking sexually arousing content."

here's a paper I found after googling why girls like BLs more, to see what other people's responses were. yaoi and yuri are very popular the opposite sexes, as well as the same sexes. i do find myself making jokes about yaoi and yuri, but the popularization of consuming gay content in the 2000s may be a factor of why there's suddenly so much discussion about it online. fujos are still a relatively niche community, so it's easy to have an outsider's perspective. i think that fetishizing, identity, and the way we connect to stories is complex, but there's also horny teen girls that are really into gay guys. i think it's really interesting to think about the ties between transitioning and consuming BL or GL, because i also know a trans girl who would read a lot of lesbian romances before coming to terms with her identity. a manga called "inside mari" covers the perversion of a man being attracted to the female body after switching bodies with a girl.

a south korean manhwa called "killing stalking" is an infamous toxic yaoi comic that focuses on an abusive relationship between a masculine man and weak femme man, something i read back in high school with another fujo girl. i think the shock factor to young girls, as well as the adrenaline rush from reading a psychological horror/forced romance is a good blueprint for what makes a person interested in BL. the need for escapsim makes people seek out all kind of content, especially sexual.
Yeah I see your points. Gay media in general helps queer people come to terms with themselves as well. My biggest problem with fujos is the cishet women who are blatantly … just fetishizing. I still do find the very existence of fujos weird, as if you're clarifying that you are a fan of specifically mlm media when you're not even a guy and possibly not even queer at all. Liking queer media is fine, but I see fujos who don't even consume any other kind of romance or queer genres. It just strikes as a little strange to me. I also don't like that BL is a whole 'nother genre, it's just romance all the same isn't it? There's GL, BL, straight romance… it's romance all the same, no different than each other except with genders. Feels similar to men who watch lesbian porn cause they think it's hot.

And yeah, I remember Killing Stalking. I read it out of morbid curiosity and never finished it.
 
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fujoshis, himejoshis, men who watch "lesbian" pornography, and [slur] hags

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they are strange

also I find them annoying because they tend to enforce/perpetuate stupid stereotypes

if you showed a fujoshi a piece of artwork by Tom of Finland they would kill themselves I think
 
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