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Basically a counter to the Toxic Positivity Quotes thread I just made since for the last 6 months I have tried very hard to better myself and therefor as a part of that I cycle through positive quotes as my desktop background which changed every 6 hours so I can read them and sit a minute to think about them. If people are interested I can post a few once in a while.

Anyways here is a few.
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'Exhaustion without reward is torture'

I don't really know who wrote that. But I personally like to change it somewhat: 'suffering without reward is torture'.

For some people, pushing themselves to reach a goal brings great satisfaction and a sense of accomplishment. There's a reward when you put in the effort and succeed at the thing you wanted to achieve. If that's you, this quote might not be for you.

For me I found it just doesn't work that way. Even when I achieve things I work really hard for, I rarely get that sense of achievement. Or any positive feeling. Graduated college; couldn't give a f*ck. Only glad it was finally over. This especially applied to working hard at jobs, social things and certain physical activities.

In hindsight, these things that were supposed to bring satisfaction through hardship were way too difficult for me. I struggled, I kept believing that at some point, surely, it must all be worth it! But now I sometimes think about that quote when I am tempted to push myself again. I have chronic pain issues. And I realized there's no secret reward for not taking drugs to relieve my pain. I struggle with sleeping, there's no reward for not taking that sleeping pill.

I try to keep a reasonal balance in things. So I don't get addicted. And keeping a daily schedule and keeping my house clean does give me a sense of order. Not exactly accomplishment, but it's enough of a reward to keep doing those things.

Anyway, that quote helps me to sometimes stop pushing and not feel guilty about it. Leaving the house when I'm really dreading it: nope, not today, I know it's going to be too much and I'll just be torturing myself. I want to stop torturing myself.
 
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'Exhaustion without reward is torture'

I don't really know who wrote that. But I personally like to change it somewhat: 'suffering without reward is torture'.

For some people, pushing themselves to reach a goal brings great satisfaction and a sense of accomplishment. There's a reward when you put in the effort and succeed at the thing you wanted to achieve. If that's you, this quote might not be for you.

For me I found it just doesn't work that way. Even when I achieve things I work really hard for, I rarely get that sense of achievement. Or any positive feeling. Graduated college; couldn't give a f*ck. Only glad it was finally over. This especially applied to working hard at jobs, social things and certain physical activities.

In hindsight, these things that were supposed to bring satisfaction through hardship were way too difficult for me. I struggled, I kept believing that at some point, surely, it must all be worth it! But now I sometimes think about that quote when I am tempted to push myself again. I have chronic pain issues. And I realized there's no secret reward for not taking drugs to relieve my pain. I struggle with sleeping, there's no reward for not taking that sleeping pill.

I try to keep a reasonal balance in things. So I don't get addicted. And keeping a daily schedule and keeping my house clean does give me a sense of order. Not exactly accomplishment, but it's enough of a reward to keep doing those things.

Anyway, that quote helps me to sometimes stop pushing and not feel guilty about it. Leaving the house when I'm really dreading it: nope, not today, I know it's going to be too much and I'll just be torturing myself. I want to stop torturing myself.
yes chronic pain really puts a wrinkle in some of these quotes. I'd like to see them overlayed on a person getting out of bed, or leaving the house, or going for a walk. Instead of over a jacked person doing pull ups. And I mean no offense OP, I just get tired of seeing these motivational quotes tied to the pervasive idea that your worth is tied to your physical appearance.

Have you looked into John Sarno's work regarding chronic pain?
 
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Have you looked into John Sarno's work regarding chronic pain?
Not yet, I'll check it out :)

Edit: I just went back to the original post and see how some of the things I said about suffering and stuff, don't align with the motivational quotes of the op. I didn't actually mean to discredit them. If it works for you, that's great. Different strokes for different folks. I realize different things can be motivating to different people.
 
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'Failure isn't when you fall- because everyone falls. It's when you don't get back up again.'

That one actually came from a work colleague and, it did help me at the time.

I seem to have multiple anti- procrastination quotes printed all over my note book (can't say they're working but, they're good...)

'The first step is to take one.'

'The secret of getting ahead is getting started.' (Mark Twain.)

Another one that flies in the face of failure:

'I have not failed. I have found a thousand ways that won't work.' (Thomas Edison.)

I remember once, our tutor talking after a challenging project had ended. They said that we had all benefitted from it. Some of us were obviously looking a bit doubtful. They followed that by saying- even if we'd found out this was something we never wanted to do again, we'd learned something!

I think that is generally true about life. We've probably made up our minds to hate quite a number of things we haven't even tried. Not that it motivates me to do so necessarily! Still, being older- in my mid 40's, I can at least say with more authority that I know I hate certain things!
 
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'Exhaustion without reward is torture'

I don't really know who wrote that. But I personally like to change it somewhat: 'suffering without reward is torture'.

For some people, pushing themselves to reach a goal brings great satisfaction and a sense of accomplishment. There's a reward when you put in the effort and succeed at the thing you wanted to achieve. If that's you, this quote might not be for you.

For me I found it just doesn't work that way. Even when I achieve things I work really hard for, I rarely get that sense of achievement. Or any positive feeling. Graduated college; couldn't give a f*ck. Only glad it was finally over. This especially applied to working hard at jobs, social things and certain physical activities.

In hindsight, these things that were supposed to bring satisfaction through hardship were way too difficult for me. I struggled, I kept believing that at some point, surely, it must all be worth it! But now I sometimes think about that quote when I am tempted to push myself again. I have chronic pain issues. And I realized there's no secret reward for not taking drugs to relieve my pain. I struggle with sleeping, there's no reward for not taking that sleeping pill.

I try to keep a reasonal balance in things. So I don't get addicted. And keeping a daily schedule and keeping my house clean does give me a sense of order. Not exactly accomplishment, but it's enough of a reward to keep doing those things.

Anyway, that quote helps me to sometimes stop pushing and not feel guilty about it. Leaving the house when I'm really dreading it: nope, not today, I know it's going to be too much and I'll just be torturing myself. I want to stop torturing myself.
I can relate to a lot of this and good quotes btw although my actions for a long time speaks against them. I have new several injuries I have been working on for months that hasn´t gotten all that better only one of them so I exhaust myself doing my exercises in the morning while I eat my boring food and later go to the gym and workout to hopefully get to a point I can lift heavier and I am so fatigue throughout the day so I just force myself to do it anyways which over time stresses me a lot among other things I have to do and I have failed a million times trying to reach a simple goal of having a nice physique so it really do feel like all this suffering without any reward is torture and therefor also pointless but I still have hope for the future atm but that doesn´t make the quote any less true.

I relate to what you are saying a lot about not feeling satisfaction from achievements not that I have many but getting a good great back in pre college I was like "meh" where the others wouldn´t be able to hold back their happiness and satisfaction from it and in video games it´s the same thing, where other people will get so ecstatic when completing a hard level or puzzle and to me I don´t feel any different other than knowing "I got past that good" I rarely exclaim with excitement at least not naturally I have started to try and just say out loud "yes" or "awesome" to try and get in the spirit but it´s not natural like how most people would react, I even have often thought I could win the lottery and I wouldn´t react at all.
yes chronic pain really puts a wrinkle in some of these quotes. I'd like to see them overlayed on a person getting out of bed, or leaving the house, or going for a walk. Instead of over a jacked person doing pull ups. And I mean no offense OP, I just get tired of seeing these motivational quotes tied to the pervasive idea that your worth is tied to your physical appearance.

Have you looked into John Sarno's work regarding chronic pain?
No worries, my dream is to become a gym bro has been for over 10 years although my illnesses have made it impossible so when it comes to motivational quotes I don´t mind the jacked dudes although I agree they are used too often as a background for positive quotes.

I don´t necessarily connect them with bodybuilding I think most of them can be applied so many things in life they are just usually associated with bodybuilding/fitness.
'Failure isn't when you fall- because everyone falls. It's when you don't get back up again.'

That one actually came from a work colleague and, it did help me at the time.

I seem to have multiple anti- procrastination quotes printed all over my note book (can't say they're working but, they're good...)

'The first step is to take one.'

'The secret of getting ahead is getting started.' (Mark Twain.)

Another one that flies in the face of failure:

'I have not failed. I have found a thousand ways that won't work.' (Thomas Edison.)

I remember once, our tutor talking after a challenging project had ended. They said that we had all benefitted from it. Some of us were obviously looking a bit doubtful. They followed that by saying- even if we'd found out this was something we never wanted to do again, we'd learned something!

I think that is generally true about life. We've probably made up our minds to hate quite a number of things we haven't even tried. Not that it motivates me to do so necessarily! Still, being older- in my mid 40's, I can at least say with more authority that I know I hate certain things!
Those are some pretty good quotes too, the one about the steps remind me of some pictures I have too although not exactly the same.
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Here is a few steps relate and the last one I guess bricks but the same meaning.
 
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