Method Possible method advice

[jakerjays]

I've got 3 main methods and I tend to bounce between them very often. I'm just looking for some sort of advice as to which would be best, I'd really appreciate it.

My first method is by Train. I've been stuck on this for a while.
I know that this is frowned upon because of driver and passenger involvement but it really is hard to care at this point
Ideally, I'd like to put my neck on the tracks but I know that this will be incredibly difficult due to SI.
I guess I could also sit? Is that more lethal than standing?
We also don't have any high speed trains here, they're all ones that travel through the countryside and have an average speed of 60-100 mph around here (the place of my location follows a bridge and theres a few turns which I figure may affect speed).
This was my desired method because the location is super out of the way, there is no cctv in the open area I plan to use and I figure the worst case scenario is that I stand on the tracks and wait to get plowed rather than lying down.

My second method (these are in no particular order) is a viaduct by my house.
The viaduct is 27 meters (89 ft) tall.
The problems with this method are that it's right next to a school and my house, and the only way to get to the viaduct is by walking on the tracks from the train station (its about a 10 minute walk, but I'd obviously run). Obviously this... is illegal.
I'm also not sure on the lethality of a drop that high? It would be directly onto a concrete road.

Finally, this is the method I considered initially because it's the one everyone here uses, honestly.
The tallest bridge in my city which is 33.5 meters (110 ft) tall.
This one has more cons than pros, but I suppose I'm just considering it because it's taller than the viaduct? Does height matter when you reach a certain point?
This bridge is really easily accessible, the biggest problems are just that they have offices either side of the bridge, CCTV and they have 2m suicide guard rails (which wont be hard to get over, it just means it'll take longer and increase my chances of being caught). Suicide attempts happen often here.
The guard rails are only present at the beginning and end of the bridge, but thats where the roads are beneath. Towards the centre of the bridge is the water and I don't to jump into water.

I'm mostly wanting to know which method has the highest fatality likelihood. I know which ones are more ethically desirabe and which arent, I just desperately do not want to survive and I also don't want to hang myself.

 

[bipolar22]

All pretty bad ideas. Maybe revisited the resource section. 33 meters is high enough but barely dont gamble with that kinda shit 27 m is a big no. Train is bad no need to fuck up the train drivers day. He might quit his job and have ptsd after.

 

[jakerjays]

All pretty bad ideas. Maybe revisited the resource section. 33 meters is high enough but barely dont gamble with that kinda shit 27 m is a big no. Train is bad no need to fuck up the train drivers day. He might quit his job and have ptsd after.

As selfish as it may seem, I genuinely do not care about there being a conductor or passengers present in the train. It has never been something that deterred me from this method. I feel bad, sure, itd not right for them to have to go through that, but it doesn't at all deter me from this method of CTB.

And yeah, I figured that about the heights honestly but I think 33m is the highest bridge within a ver far distance. The tallest building (and the only one even possibly taller than the bridge) is very easily accessible as its student accomodation with the top floor being a communal area and I know somebody who lives there, but there are dozens of suicide preventatives such as barred windows and no roof access.

 

[PotentiallyWasted]

All pretty bad ideas. Maybe revisited the resource section. 33 meters is high enough but barely dont gamble with that kinda shit 27 m is a big no. Train is bad no need to fuck up the train drivers day. He might quit his job and have ptsd after.

why should he care about the driver's wellbeing if OP won't be there to feel bad about it? imo yeah it's fucked up but we're talking about suicide so deep down it doesn't truly matter and out of the three even though probably the most brutal it seems like the most effective.

 

[jakerjays]

why should he care about the driver's wellbeing if OP won't be there to feel bad about it? imo yeah it's fucked up but we're talking about suicide so deep down it doesn't truly matter and out of the three even though probably the most brutal it seems like the most effective.

Thank you, I've already replied to the original commenter but I'm glad to see that somebody else sees it from my perspective. I genuinely do not care about selfishness or brutality, I just want to die and I want to choose the method most likely to get me there.

 

[bipolar22]

why should he care about the driver's wellbeing if OP won't be there to feel bad about it? imo yeah it's fucked up but we're talking about suicide so deep down it doesn't truly matter and out of the three even though probably the most brutal it seems like the most effective.

Because not everyone is a narcissist or suffers for aspd like you buddy. If you do then go for it. Or do the bridge thing. why will I care if you end up a cripple. Infact do whatever nobody cares. Later.

 

[PotentiallyWasted]

Because not everyone is a narcissist or suffers for aspd like you buddy. If you do then go for it. Or do the bridge thing. why will I care if you end up a cripple. Infact do whatever nobody cares. Later.

oh please are you really going to argue like this with someone on a suicide forum? I won't even judge you but my point still stands and if this is how OP feels you shouldn't try to make their opinion less than because of values and no i'm not narcissistic or suffer from ASPD i'm just trying to think of the situation as logically as possible. defo not a method i'll be trying tho.

 

[bipolar22]

oh please are you really going to argue like this with someone on a suicide forum? I won't even judge you but my point still stands and if this is how OP feels you shouldn't try to make their opinion less than because of values and no i'm not narcissistic or suffer from ASPD i'm just trying to think of the situation as logically as possible. defo not a method i'll be trying tho.

Thank you for the life lesson aspd individual. Keep them coming. Extremely edifiying

 

[MissAbyss]

Answer is: Train

Case fatality / lethality: studies of railway suicide attempts report that only about 10–30% of people survive a rail-suicide attempt (i.e. 70–90% fatality). One widely-cited study found roughly 90% fatality (≈10% non-fatal). This makes rail attempts much more likely to be fatal than many other common methods.

 

[TheEmptyVoid]

Answer is: Train

Case fatality / lethality: studies of railway suicide attempts report that only about 10–30% of people survive a rail-suicide attempt (i.e. 70–90% fatality). One widely-cited study found roughly 90% fatality (≈10% non-fatal). This makes rail attempts much more likely to be fatal than many other common methods.

yeah the trains have a fender/cow catcher infront of them so I have to find a train that stopped or wait for the train to stop and then go to the part behind the fender and put my neck on the rail where the wheel of the train is, and wait for the train to start moving, but I am scared because what if the train isn't heavy enough to crush my neck and decapitate me what if it just crushes my airways and not my blood vessels to my brain leading to an agonizing death, that's my fear, I want it to completely decapitate me nearly instantly.

 

[jakerjays]

Answer is: Train

Case fatality / lethality: studies of railway suicide attempts report that only about 10–30% of people survive a rail-suicide attempt (i.e. 70–90% fatality). One widely-cited study found roughly 90% fatality (≈10% non-fatal). This makes rail attempts much more likely to be fatal than many other common methods.

Thank you, I genuinely appreciate your straight forward reply. Do you know whether the 'widely-cited study' specificed the position in which most deaths occured? ie, liers vs sitters vs jumpers.

 

[MissAbyss]

yeah the trains have a fender/cow catcher infront of them so I have to find a train that stopped or wait for the train to stop and then go to the part behind the fender and put my neck on the rail where the wheel of the train is, and wait for the train to start moving, but I am scared because what if the train isn't heavy enough to crush my neck and decapitate me what if it just crushes my airways and not my blood vessels to my brain leading to an agonizing death, that's my fear, I want it to completely decapitate me nearly instantly.

The train is heavy enough, I wouldn't worry about that.

There are several possible scenarios.

1. Instant smooth decapitation
2. You neck/head will be crushed
3. Your body will be dragged along until the train stops or has moved on.

Which scenario will happen is not a guarantee.

The chances that you can been seen unnoticed, laying your head on the rail while the train is stopped or starts moving, are quite low. Have you considered that? There is a high chance that the attempt will fail even to begin with.

Have you researched this method, like watching videos, etc.? It gives you some idea.

 

[jakerjays]

The train is heavy enough, I wouldn't worry about that.

There are several possible scenarios.

1. Instant smooth decapitation
2. You neck/head will be crushed
3. Your body will be dragged along until the train stops or has moved on.

Which scenario will happen is not a guarantee.

The chances that you can been seen unnoticed, laying your head on the rail while the train is stopped or starts moving, are quite low. Have you considered that? There is a high chance that the attempt will fail even to begin with.

Have you researched this method, like watching videos, etc.? It gives you some idea.

Yeah. I have considered the chance of being noticed.
Where I live has quite a weird area where you can stray off of the path from a nature reserve and reach open tracks. Though its easily accessible, the tracks cant be seen from the path and I've never seen anybody over there in around a dozen trips over the last 3 months.
I actually made an attempt two months ago where I intended to lay with my neck on the tracks. An hour prior I spent some time laying on the tracks for a bit, getting up, etc, and nobody saw. There are also no security cameras in this area and the specific spot where I intend to do this follows a blind corner.

I have seen quite a lot of videos, yes. My ideal method would be lying with my neck on the tracks, but I've also seen an equal amount of videos of people being blown to bits by a full body collision. I'm a bit torn. My neck on the tracks has a chance of being cleaner and more final but its harder to bring oneself to do.

 

[MissAbyss]

Thank you, I genuinely appreciate your straight forward reply. Do you know whether the 'widely-cited study' specificed the position in which most deaths occured? ie, liers vs sitters vs jumpers.

Depends on the country / study — but many large studies find "liers" (people who lie or sit on the rails) are either the single largest group or the deadliest.

What makes sense. Jumpers can sometimes hesitate. This can causes them to miss/or jump too late with serious consequences, resulting in a higher mortality rate. Someone who sits or lies down is mostly more determined.

 

[jakerjays]

Depends on the country / study — but many large studies find "liers" (people who lie or sit on the rails) are either the single largest group or the deadliest.

What makes sense. Jumpers can sometimes hesitate. This can causes them to miss/or jump too early with serious consequences, resulting in a higher mortality rate. Someone who sits or lies down is mostly more determined.

I honestly hadn't considered sitting until earlier today but it sounds like the best idea out of the 3 positions. Less likely to get thrown to the side than a standing position and your head/torso is still directly in the impact zone. When sitting, is it typically between the rails or ontop of one rail?

 

[MissAbyss]

I honestly hadn't considered sitting until earlier today but it sounds like the best idea out of the 3 positions. Less likely to get thrown to the side than a standing position and your head/torso is still directly in the impact zone. When sitting, is it typically between the rails or ontop of one rail?

From what I've seen, they usually sit on top of the rails but are dragged along.

Logically I would say, between the rails to reduce the chance of getting thrown to the side and the impact will be instant.