Poverty and CTB

[Manfrotto99]

Poverty is the reason behind me catching the bus and I realise it is for many others on here. Many people have to endure abuse either at home or are forced into a shelter or in the Street, where they only endure more abuse. There is no quality of life and ones health suffers as a result. Our society is set up that if your born into wealth it genuinely is passed on and accumulates, but otherwise its almost impossible to get on in this world unless you have some special talent etc. its an ongoing struggle and its lonely too and full of shame. People simply dont like being around poor people and where often shunned and blamed for not being good enough.

I was wondering how many people if any on here consider themselves rich or wealthy? Ie, have or will have money to buy their home, live comfortably, travel if they want, not have to work too hard into retirement in a job they hate, etc

I always think money can buy happiness ie. studies show happiness is tied up in new experiences in life and money can buy that, whether its travelling, a new house or learning new things. I understand money cant always buy ones health so I understand if someone is in pain or has an incurable disease. Otherwise, I just don't understand and am curious to know why or if anyone who is wealthy, would want to ctb?

 

[claracatchingthebus]

it's part of it for me

i had a medical issue that's made life hard, and trying to make the medical issue less bad resulted in it being worse

death would free me from all of this, of course, but i'm not there quite yet, being totally done with life

the fucked up thing is that even though everyone else seems to hate me, i mostly like myself, and i feel like had things gone slightly differently, i could have had a really nice life. part of me is sad and isn't able to totally say goodbye yet to me, as a person, this identity and personality that is me, that I actually think is pretty cool, even when others don't.

financial stuff has made things much harder, but i've probably not been in poverty quite the way you have been. sometimes i think of these things when i am sad and on here: oh, if i had more money, perhaps things would be all better.

but that being said, i'm not starting my own business, trying to be industrious, trying to do something exciting and new in the world, and maybe i could, and then maybe i would make money. and a large part of why is because i am so sad and lonely, and i'm so sad because of being lonely i don't know if i have the pain endurance to continue

at this point i also have a lot of regret and sadness with how i've been treated, some horrible things were done to me, and i feel like i've lost a large part of my life as a result, and just due to bad luck and depression, but mostly like being lonely. so i can't even have the pain-tolerance and energy and fortitude to try to make money.

i don't actually know if people need a special talent to make it in this world. Rent a place, sell great ice cream, make money. Rent a place, sell burgers that are great, make money. Find a random store, sell beer, make money. I know that poverty is so brutal that paying for a place to do these things often isn't possible, and that's what makes it hard for people in severe poverty. If severe poverty is your only major problem, I would hope you try to start at least 1 business before ctbing.

If I were truly wealthy, like had a million dollars, I'm not sure I'd be happy because of the medical issues, but I'd be less nervous. Right now, I am genuinely scared about winding up homeless, especially since my family seems to hate me.

 

[Brew]

I can't imagine anything on my life past november if I don't pass my current job's 90-day experience period.

For most of my 18-up life I've felt like there is no job out there for me, none that would not make me want to kill myself everyday I went to work, and I just can't take living with my family any much longer.

I
can't stand being broke and ashamed of walking outside, seeing my friends, pretty much just being alive. It's like I'm an overgrown beast of a wildflower with its roots suffocated by a teeny tiny pot.

 

[DirtCommie]

Sorry that youre going thorugh this

And yeaa after 30 years of near homelessness(well technically as Im typing this I actually am homeless. Also my mom was homeless when I was born) I am sure that my eternal sadness only stems from living in a condition of eternally dirt broke. I think the studies and video prove me right. EVERY.SINGLE.ONE of my current problems would be solved with just having enough money lol. It has also been found that rates of depression scale with how low your income is too.


https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.12.04.23299380v1.full ,


I also really like this video because there is a quote that the dude says in the video that goes along the lines of:


"One of the biggest successes of neoliberalism was convincing most people that depression can ONLY result from deranged internal chemical imbalances rather than as normal reaction to external world poverty and shittiness lol. For a lot of ' depressed' people youre probably not even depressed at all ! There is the possibility that your body and brain are just normally reacting to a fucked world where there are some war mongering, greedy , lazy people ( like musk, george bush, ibn mohammad ,modi, trump, etc... ) who have crazy excesses of resources, respect, and wealth. Meanwhile a decent, peaceful , hard worker such as yourself has to scrape by with slave wages and practical homelessness. It is.not that 'CliNiCAl dEpREsSiOn DoesNt ExIst', it clearly does exist, its just that sooome people are having a completely normal depressed reaction to unfair inequities they are beaten up by and see every day...and thats OK. The inequities must be dismantled but their reactions are OK. "


This right here is the quote that I live by↑ There is nothing wrong wuth feeling like youre angry, depressed, hopeless, whatever negative emotion cause of the easily fixable inequities youre surrounded by daily.


There are a dearth of therapists who acknowledge that someone is literally not depressed in clinical terms . Theyre just dirt broke, ostracized and this results in their current sadness....that's it ! lol! I feel that this is by design cause so many therapists would have to acknowledge that " they alone cannot help this depressed person in front of them with clinical methods or drugs but rsther this person can only be helped through systematic changes that gives them human rights that ensure they have access to things to ...well... make them human again . Like a home. And a living wage.And a community that doesnt ostracize them based on how low their income is . And the ability to afford health care or mental health care when they need it. And the ability to afford time off when they need it....That's it!"

 

[shampoo sniffer]

My family is poor, both sides. Both my parents suffered greatly because of poverty. For instance, my dad didn't get his first toothbrush until he was 18. Never had nice things growing up, just hand me downs and other kids' broken, second hand junk.