Method Proposing a new, easily-accessible method - Propofol (A Theoretical Method of Dying - The Two Drug Combination - Emulating BC's MAiD Protocol)

[Gone.]

I propose a new method based off BC's MAiD process:

Accessible Version
Full details below~

What you need:
1000mg of propofol - You can get this from Russian clearnet pharmacies. It is marketed for the euthanasia for animals. Propofol is generally not a controlled substance, and is widely used for the induction of anesthesia.
10ml of saline for injection - You can get this from your local pharmacy. Just ask.
0.5mg per kg Lidocaine 1% - You can also get this from your local pharmacy. Again, just ask.
IV Catheter (20G) - You can buy this from medical suppliers online.
IV tubing - You can buy this from any medical supply store... Again...
Tegaderm dressing for the IV - Again, purchasable from the pharmacy. Just ask.

Procedure:
Push 10ml of saline to ensure patency of IV catheter
Push lidocaine 0.5mg/kg of 1% preparation to numb the veins as sometimes propofol hurts on injection.
Wait for five minutes.
Administer propofol 1000mg via an IV syringe pump or drip (just stick the end of the iv tubing into the bottle) over 30 seconds — This induces anaesthesia and death. The IV syringe pump or drip is chosen as it will continue the infusion postmortem to ensure sufficient serum concentration.


Full Article
I came by a document titled "Medical Assistance in Dying (MAID) Protocols and Procedures Handbook of the Comox Valley, BC" (Reggler & Daws, 2021) and found interest in this document. It outlines the following protocol for medically assisted suicide by the intravenous route:

1. Saline 10 ml (upon insertion of new cannula or to ensure patency of existing)
2. Midazolam 10-20mg 2-4ml of 5mg/ml preparation
3. Saline 10ml (may be omitted)
4. Lidocaine 40mg 4ml of 1% preparation; pause to allow effect
5. Saline 10ml (may be omitted)
6. Propofol 1000mg 100ml of 10mg/ml preparation; give slowly especially if veins small or patient)
7. Saline 10ml (mandatory; prevents crystallization or Propofol with Rocuronium)
8. Rocuronium 200mg 20ml of 10mg/ml preparation
9. Saline 10ml (mandatory; ensures full dose delivered centrally)

I have decided to investigate the intravenous route as the oral route is extremely uncomfortable and can take up to twelve hours for an individual to die from such ingestion, and a complication rate of up to 14.8%. (pp. 18-19, Worthington, Finlay & Regnard, 2022)
Based on this guideline, I propose the following:

1. Saline 10ml (To ensure patency of IV catheter)
2. The midazolam is excluded as it's primary purpose is to reduce awareness of mild burning sensation, which the lidocaine should be effective at preventing. Ten to seventy percent of patients experience this in the absence of pretreatment. (p. 8, Reggler & Daws, 2021). However, pretreatment with lidocaine at 0.5mg/kg should be sufficient. (Kang et al, 2010)
3. Lidocaine 0.5mg/kg of 1% preparation; (The lidocaine is set to 0.5mg/kg as per Kang et al., 2010)
4. Propofol 1000mg via an IV syringe pump over 30 seconds - This induces anesthesia and death. The IV syringe pump is chosen as it will continue the infusion postmortem to ensure sufficient serum concentration.

Existing case studies suggests the possible use of propofol as a monotherapy in the use of medically asssisted dying, as it's use in physician suicides (primarily anesthesiologists) is widespread. In fact, induction agents are the leading drugs used for suicides among anesthesiologists. (Yentis, Shinde, Plunkett & Mortimore, 2019)

Bibliography:

1. Anna Pia Colucci, Gagliano‐Candela R, Aventaggiato L, et al. Suicide by Self‐Administration of a Drug Mixture (Propofol, Midazolam, and Zolpidem) in an Anesthesiologist: The First Case Report in Italy. Journal of Forensic Sciences. 2013;58(3):837-841. doi:https://doi.org/10.1111/1556-4029.12053

2. Silviya Stoykova, Kiryakova T, Nikolov D, Nedzhib A, Ivayla Pantcheva, Vasil Atanasov. Self-administrated propofol – a case report of a physician suicide. Annales de Toxicologie Analytique. 2018;30(2):142-148. doi:https://doi.org/10.1016/j.toxac.2018.03.002

3. Kirby RR, Colaw JM, Douglas MM. Death from Propofol: Accident, Suicide, or Murder? Anesthesia & Analgesia. 2009;108(4):1182-1184. doi:https://doi.org/10.1213/ane.0b013e318198d45e

4. Reggler J, Daws T. Medical Assistance in Dying (MAID) Protocols and Procedures Handbook Comox Valley, BC 2017.; 2017. https://divisionsbc.ca/sites/default/files/51936/Medical Assistance in Dying (MAID) Protocols and Procedures Handbook Comox Valley 2017 - 2nd edition_0.pdf

5. Yentis, S.M., Shinde, S., Plunkett, E. and Mortimore, A. (2019), Suicide amongst anaesthetists – an Association of Anaesthetists survey. Anaesthesia, 74: 1365-1373. https://doi.org/10.1111/anae.14727

 

[DeadManLiving]

Thx for the information. I've tried large saline concentrations orally in solution at high to induce dehydration but after the second day still alive sucking on an ice cube didn't want to risk permanent renal injury without a more lethal adjuvant. What about saline intramuscular? Full IV line bit tricky although in combination with profonol & then potassium would definitely do the job, but setting up a robust IV line is a bitch, especially keeping it in place. One way could be to get some low grade infection and a PICC line (for bolus continous delivery of antibiotics/ amoxicillin), or finding a physician that'll set you up with a PICC line would do the job, but you need a medically necessary reason. But I remember doing saline flushes with PICC lines and they were breeze as far as direct IV goes.

 

[Gone.]

Thx for the information. I've tried large saline concentrations orally in solution at high to induce dehydration but after the second day still alive sucking on an ice cube didn't want to risk permanent renal injury without a more lethal adjuvant. What about saline intramuscular? Full IV line bit tricky although in combination with profonol & then potassium would definitely do the job, but setting up a robust IV line is a bitch, especially keeping it in place. One way could be to get some low grade infection and a PICC line (for bolus continous delivery of antibiotics/ amoxicillin), or finding a physician that'll set you up with a PICC line would do the job, but you need a medically necessary reason. But I remember doing saline flushes with PICC lines and they were breeze as far as direct IV goes.

Saline IM will likely get you hypernatremia, so I guess someone could possibly die from it. You can use an IV catheter, and to keep it in place, use a tegaderm on top. And usually they wouldn't put a PICC line for an infection unless if you need an IV in for more than 96 hours~

 

[eden101]

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[Lady Laudanum]

How are you going to get yourself propofol though, assuming that you don't have a healthcare job that makes it possible to steal it from the facility you work in?

 

[Gone.]

How are you going to get yourself propofol though, assuming that you don't have a healthcare job that makes it possible to steal it from the facility you work in?

You can buy it otc - Shipped from Russia.

 

[lifeisactualtorture]

I can say after having 31 procedures on my spine w propofol sedation, the sting is tolerable and I have an extremely low tolerance to pain. This was also providing it's not continuous. It usually knocked me out in under 10 seconds - realistically probably 3-4 seconds. The cold feeling of the saline flush annoyed me more.

 

[willitpass]

You aren't going to be able to get IV lidocaine without a prescription in the US. That is a strictly prescription only drug here. Ask a pharmacists to just give you some and they'll tell you absolutely not.

 

[sevennn]

are you still here? i wonder why not many people reacted to this post. sounds like it works?

 

[Sunset Limited]

If you buy propofol from Russian clearnet pharmacies, you don't need other drugs because it is Anestofol. 5% lidocaine, 5% propofol. That means 20 cc of Anestofol contains 1000 mg propofol + 1000 mg lidocaine. Perfect combined!

Since it contains lidocaine, there is no injection pain. A bolus dose that 20 - 25 cc of Anestofol is enough to guaranteed painless CTB for everyone. Although this dose does not inhibit respiration long enough to cause asphyxia, profound hypotension and cardiovascular collapse are there.

If we are talking about IV route, Anestofol is better than N. Great job from Russians.

Anyone bought Anestofol from clearnet pharmacies? I want to put it to my CTB bag.

 

[Gone.]

You aren't going to be able to get IV lidocaine without a prescription in the US. That is a strictly prescription only drug here. Ask a pharmacists to just give you some and they'll tell you absolutely not.

Yeah, the US is weird in that lidocaine injection is prescription only. It's OTC for the rest of the world :P

are you still here? i wonder why not many people reacted to this post. sounds like it works?

Yeah, the police confiscated it and sectioned me :(

If you buy propofol from Russian clearnet pharmacies, you don't need other drugs because it is Anestofol. 5% lidocaine, 5% propofol. That means 20 cc of Anestofol contains 1000 mg propofol + 1000 mg lidocaine. Perfect combined!

Since it contains lidocaine, there is no injection pain. A bolus dose that 20 - 25 cc of Anestofol is enough to guaranteed painless CTB for everyone. Although this dose does not inhibit respiration long enough to cause asphyxia, profound hypotension and cardiovascular collapse are there.

If we are talking about IV route, Anestofol is better than N. Great job from Russians.

Anyone bought Anestofol from clearnet pharmacies? I want to put it to my CTB bag.

Yup! I agree that it is better than pentobarbital, as it is the current standard for MAiD in BC. I still included the lidocaine to pre-numb the vasculature as lidocaine takes time to work.

 

[sevennn]

Yeah, the US is weird in that lidocaine injection is prescription only. It's OTC for the rest of the world :P


Yeah, the police confiscated it and sectioned me :(


Yup! I agree that it is better than pentobarbital, as it is the current standard for MAiD in BC. I still included the lidocaine to pre-numb the vasculature as lidocaine takes time to work.

oh i'm so sorry. are you ok? the police confiscated what you ordered from russia?

 

[Gone.]

oh i'm so sorry. are you ok? the police confiscated what you ordered from russia?

Yeah, I don't know how but someone found out that I had it (probably my therapist, who I told a while back) and the police just showed up at my door.

 

[Kattt]

I propose a new method based off BC's MAiD process:

Accessible Version
Full details below~

What you need:
1000mg of propofol - You can get this from Russian clearnet pharmacies. It is marketed for the euthanasia for animals. Propofol is generally not a controlled substance, and is widely used for the induction of anesthesia.
10ml of saline for injection - You can get this from your local pharmacy. Just ask.
0.5mg per kg Lidocaine 1% - You can also get this from your local pharmacy. Again, just ask.
IV Catheter (20G) - You can buy this from medical suppliers online.
IV tubing - You can buy this from any medical supply store... Again...
Tegaderm dressing for the IV - Again, purchasable from the pharmacy. Just ask.

Procedure:
Push 10ml of saline to ensure patency of IV catheter
Push lidocaine 0.5mg/kg of 1% preparation to numb the veins as sometimes propofol hurts on injection.
Wait for five minutes.
Administer propofol 1000mg via an IV syringe pump or drip (just stick the end of the iv tubing into the bottle) over 30 seconds — This induces anaesthesia and death. The IV syringe pump or drip is chosen as it will continue the infusion postmortem to ensure sufficient serum concentration.


Full Article
I came by a document titled "Medical Assistance in Dying (MAID) Protocols and Procedures Handbook of the Comox Valley, BC" (Reggler & Daws, 2021) and found interest in this document. It outlines the following protocol for medically assisted suicide by the intravenous route:

1. Saline 10 ml (upon insertion of new cannula or to ensure patency of existing)
2. Midazolam 10-20mg 2-4ml of 5mg/ml preparation
3. Saline 10ml (may be omitted)
4. Lidocaine 40mg 4ml of 1% preparation; pause to allow effect
5. Saline 10ml (may be omitted)
6. Propofol 1000mg 100ml of 10mg/ml preparation; give slowly especially if veins small or patient)
7. Saline 10ml (mandatory; prevents crystallization or Propofol with Rocuronium)
8. Rocuronium 200mg 20ml of 10mg/ml preparation
9. Saline 10ml (mandatory; ensures full dose delivered centrally)

I have decided to investigate the intravenous route as the oral route is extremely uncomfortable and can take up to twelve hours for an individual to die from such ingestion, and a complication rate of up to 14.8%. (pp. 18-19, Worthington, Finlay & Regnard, 2022)
Based on this guideline, I propose the following:

1. Saline 10ml (To ensure patency of IV catheter)
2. The midazolam is excluded as it's primary purpose is to reduce awareness of mild burning sensation, which the lidocaine should be effective at preventing. Ten to seventy percent of patients experience this in the absence of pretreatment. (p. 8, Reggler & Daws, 2021). However, pretreatment with lidocaine at 0.5mg/kg should be sufficient. (Kang et al, 2010)
3. Lidocaine 0.5mg/kg of 1% preparation; (The lidocaine is set to 0.5mg/kg as per Kang et al., 2010)
4. Propofol 1000mg via an IV syringe pump over 30 seconds - This induces anesthesia and death. The IV syringe pump is chosen as it will continue the infusion postmortem to ensure sufficient serum concentration.

Existing case studies suggests the possible use of propofol as a monotherapy in the use of medically asssisted dying, as it's use in physician suicides (primarily anesthesiologists) is widespread. In fact, induction agents are the leading drugs used for suicides among anesthesiologists. (Yentis, Shinde, Plunkett & Mortimore, 2019)

Bibliography:

1. Anna Pia Colucci, Gagliano‐Candela R, Aventaggiato L, et al. Suicide by Self‐Administration of a Drug Mixture (Propofol, Midazolam, and Zolpidem) in an Anesthesiologist: The First Case Report in Italy. Journal of Forensic Sciences. 2013;58(3):837-841. doi:https://doi.org/10.1111/1556-4029.12053

2. Silviya Stoykova, Kiryakova T, Nikolov D, Nedzhib A, Ivayla Pantcheva, Vasil Atanasov. Self-administrated propofol – a case report of a physician suicide. Annales de Toxicologie Analytique. 2018;30(2):142-148. doi:https://doi.org/10.1016/j.toxac.2018.03.002

3. Kirby RR, Colaw JM, Douglas MM. Death from Propofol: Accident, Suicide, or Murder? Anesthesia & Analgesia. 2009;108(4):1182-1184. doi:https://doi.org/10.1213/ane.0b013e318198d45e

4. Reggler J, Daws T. Medical Assistance in Dying (MAID) Protocols and Procedures Handbook Comox Valley, BC 2017.; 2017. https://divisionsbc.ca/sites/default/files/51936/Medical Assistance in Dying (MAID) Protocols and Procedures Handbook Comox Valley 2017 - 2nd edition_0.pdf

5. Yentis, S.M., Shinde, S., Plunkett, E. and Mortimore, A. (2019), Suicide amongst anaesthetists – an Association of Anaesthetists survey. Anaesthesia, 74: 1365-1373. https://doi.org/10.1111/anae.14727

Propofol is my favourite drug ever (there are very few I've been unable to sample). This is the drug responsible for the deaths of Whacko Jacko and Joan Rivers-it's the most widely used general anaesthetic aka: "Milk of Amnesia". Make sure you thoroughly study the not simple proccess of establishing a catheter in a suitably sized vessel (mine goes in my carotid) and to dilute that wonderful nectar adequately because if not, you're DEFINITELY going to feel it. Not only does it have the consistency of Gloss paint, but it stings like a very stingy thing.
Outside of surgery, it's primary purpose is for use with intubated patients on a vent, because it relaxes the muscles in the throat-also usually causing a cessastion of respiration within 30-60 seconds. Back in the late 80s, I knew a theatre nurse from the raves. Any unsealed amps went in the sharps bin for incineration...but obviously not quite "all" reached those cathartic flames. we had an "arrangement". But most docs will insist it can't be self administered...this acts VERY fast. I figured out some crazy yoga positions that would maintain my airway whilst using only a little at a time.
Liquid Midazolam is actually a bitch to obtain. That's for the same reason as N- because the DOJ couldn't get the N (production ceased as a protest against it's use in capital punishment there so they moved on to Midazolam- which is way up in my top 5 too but the condemned may have found it a little less agreeable. You can read about all this online.
**NOTE: I generally used 1 ml vials and a 5 ml vial is BIG. so you may mean micrograms which is a huge diference. 1000m would reliably kill at least 100 people!!! The lidnocaine is ridiculous..the pain from the drug itself depends on a good dilution with the right dilutant because it's an oil based substance.

You aren't going to be able to get IV lidocaine without a prescription in the US. That is a strictly prescription only drug here. Ask a pharmacists to just give you some and they'll tell you absolutely not.

You think thst's crazy? Until very recently sterile vials of water for injections were a controlled substance in the UK.

 

[sevennn]

Propofol is my favourite drug ever (there are very few I've been unable to sample). This is the drug responsible for the deaths of Whacko Jacko and Joan Rivers-it's the most widely used general anaesthetic aka: "Milk of Amnesia". Make sure you thoroughly study the not simple proccess of establishing a catheter in a suitably sized vessel (mine goes in my carotid) and to dilute that wonderful nectar adequately because if not, you're DEFINITELY going to feel it. Not only does it have the consistency of Gloss paint, but it stings like a very stingy thing.
Outside of surgery, it's primary purpose is for use with intubated patients on a vent, because it relaxes the muscles in the throat-also usually causing a cessastion of respiration within 30-60 seconds. Back in the late 80s, I knew a theatre nurse from the raves. Any unsealed amps went in the sharps bin for incineration...but obviously not quite "all" reached those cathartic flames. we had an "arrangement". But most docs will insist it can't be self administered...this acts VERY fast. I figured out some crazy yoga positions that would maintain my airway whilst using only a little at a time.
Liquid Midazolam is actually a bitch to obtain. That's for the same reason as N- because the DOJ couldn't get the N (production ceased as a protest against it's use in capital punishment there so they moved on to Midazolam- which is way up in my top 5 too but the condemned may have found it a little less agreeable. You can read about all this online.
**NOTE: I generally used 1 ml vials and a 5 ml vial is BIG. so you may mean micrograms which is a huge diference. 1000m would reliably kill at least 100 people!!! The lidnocaine is ridiculous..the pain from the drug itself depends on a good dilution with the right dilutant because it's an oil based substance.

You think thst's crazy? Until very recently sterile vials of water for injections were a controlled substance in the UK.

you need to dilute it? and you mean some use it for fun? so if it has lidocaine in it i suppose that means it's diluted? i'm just curious

 

[Sunset Limited]

Propofol is my favourite drug ever (there are very few I've been unable to sample). This is the drug responsible for the deaths of Whacko Jacko and Joan Rivers-it's the most widely used general anaesthetic aka: "Milk of Amnesia". Make sure you thoroughly study the not simple proccess of establishing a catheter in a suitably sized vessel (mine goes in my carotid) and to dilute that wonderful nectar adequately because if not, you're DEFINITELY going to feel it. Not only does it have the consistency of Gloss paint, but it stings like a very stingy thing.
Outside of surgery, it's primary purpose is for use with intubated patients on a vent, because it relaxes the muscles in the throat-also usually causing a cessastion of respiration within 30-60 seconds. Back in the late 80s, I knew a theatre nurse from the raves. Any unsealed amps went in the sharps bin for incineration...but obviously not quite "all" reached those cathartic flames. we had an "arrangement". But most docs will insist it can't be self administered...this acts VERY fast. I figured out some crazy yoga positions that would maintain my airway whilst using only a little at a time.
Liquid Midazolam is actually a bitch to obtain. That's for the same reason as N- because the DOJ couldn't get the N (production ceased as a protest against it's use in capital punishment there so they moved on to Midazolam- which is way up in my top 5 too but the condemned may have found it a little less agreeable. You can read about all this online.
**NOTE: I generally used 1 ml vials and a 5 ml vial is BIG. so you may mean micrograms which is a huge diference. 1000m would reliably kill at least 100 people!!! The lidnocaine is ridiculous..the pain from the drug itself depends on a good dilution with the right dilutant because it's an oil based substance.

You think thst's crazy? Until very recently sterile vials of water for injections were a controlled substance in the UK.

Hi there. I would like to correct some of the mistakes in your post.

"dilute that wonderful nectar"

You should not dilute propofol. Propofol is a hydrophobic phenol, it is not soluble in water. It is soluble in oil, but you cannot inject oil directly into the bloodstream. This has several negative consequences. That is why propofol is emulsified. It is a fragile emulsion and when you add liquids like 0.9 saline, the emulsion will be split. You can see soybean oil bubbles on the syringe.

"Outside of surgery, it's primary purpose is for use with intubated patients on a vent, because it relaxes the muscles in the throat"

Propofol does not have muscle relaxant properties. If it is intubation, propofol is used for sedation of intubated patients. Induction and maintenance. If rapid sequence intubation is necessary, they use succinylcholine as a muscle relaxant. In surgery, rocuronium and others are usually longer acting muscle relaxants.

"1000m would reliably kill at least 100 people!!!"

(If we are talking about propofol) No you can't kill 100 people with 1000mg propofol. Before surgery, patients make an appointment with an anesthesiology department. They are injecting 20mg propofol for an allergy test. 20mg propofol has no clinical effect. Propofol is also used in procedural sedation. Procedural sedation induction dose is 1mg/kg. In other words, the procedural sedation induction dose of a 100kg person is 100mg. This dose provides sedation where the patient can breathe on his own. Premedication is also included in this dose. The effect of propofol is increased with midazolam or dexmedetomidine. A 100kg person without airway collapse will not die with 100mg propofol. Of course, this depends on many criteria. Age, weight, chronic disease, drug addiction, etc. Airway collapse is quite specific. There are patients whose airways collapse after premedication with fentanyl at a propofol blood concentration of 3mcg/ml, while there are patients with obstructive sleep apnea who can protect their airways at a concentration of 17mcg/ml! In short, 1000mg propofol has the potential to kill an average of 5-6 people. It is not possible to say anything definitive about this.

 

[Kattt]

you need to dilute it? and you mean some use it for fun? so if it has lidocaine in it i suppose that means it's diluted? i'm just curious

it's an oil based serum- they don't even make needles you can get that through. it's mixed with a whole lot of saline and other ingredients to reduce the viscsity. It's not commonly used recreationally..you need an anaesthetist, but I'm all out of fucks.
Midazolam is just a powerful benzodiazepine (like Xanax or Valium)..it's what you get if the dentist sedates you. Although short avting, they monitor you closely and keep you just below the conscious state by topping it up a little at a time. The reason it's so popular with dentists is that it has a an amnesiac effect, so even if you aren't having a fun, relaxing root canal, it'll be forgotten within a few minutes. I believe the primary reasojn for combining it in this combi would be the CNS suppression in addition to that of the anaesthetic. This first video may seem a bit irrelevant at first, but actually elaborates on the different ways they work.

 

[HouseofMortok]

As it is less effective orally, how about rectally? Possible? Effective as IV?

 

[Sunset Limited]

As it is less effective orally, how about rectally? Possible? Effective as IV?

It is IV only.

 

[52yoandmiserable]

And how does one obtain this wonderful elixir of relief???

 

[Sunset Limited]

And how does one obtain this wonderful elixir of relief???

OP says it is available in online Russian pharmacies. I haven't found a link yet.

 

[HouseofMortok]

OP says it is available in online Russian pharmacies. I haven't found a link yet.

Managed to find a site. 50mg/ml 10ml so that's 500mg total? Is that 10ml bottle enough? How would I set an hourly syringe pump with a 10ml syringe?

E.g. Does a pump kick out 10ml in 1 go every hour or does it slowly pump 10ml over the course of an hour?

I suppose if it dumps it in 1 go, I guess 20ml would ensure an hour later 10ml more goes in.

 

[Willy Wonka]

If you buy propofol from Russian clearnet pharmacies, you don't need other drugs because it is Anestofol. 5% lidocaine, 5% propofol. That means 20 cc of Anestofol contains 1000 mg propofol + 1000 mg lidocaine. Perfect combined!

Since it contains lidocaine, there is no injection pain. A bolus dose that 20 - 25 cc of Anestofol is enough to guaranteed painless CTB for everyone. Although this dose does not inhibit respiration long enough to cause asphyxia, profound hypotension and cardiovascular collapse are there.

If we are talking about IV route, Anestofol is better than N. Great job from Russians.

Anyone bought Anestofol from clearnet pharmacies? I want to put it to my CTB bag.

I´d also like to add those things to my bag ... would you mind sharing one of the Russian clearnet pharmacies with me via dm (if you found a link yet)?

 

[ham and potatoes]

You can buy it otc - Shipped from Russia.

How would that even work, wouldn't it have a good chance of getting stopped by customs?

 

[Gone.]

How would that even work, wouldn't it have a good chance of getting stopped by customs?

Did it thrice. None got confiscated at customs. One was seized because my team found out while I was inpatient, the other two were seized after I told my team that I was going to final yeet by this drug so...
Quite a few merchants sell them. PM me.

 

[52yoandmiserable]

Then I guess I'm going to have to learn how to start an IV on myself. Fuck! I hate needles.

 

[Sunset Limited]

Managed to find a site. 50mg/ml 10ml so that's 500mg total? Is that 10ml bottle enough? How would I set an hourly syringe pump with a 10ml syringe?

E.g. Does a pump kick out 10ml in 1 go every hour or does it slowly pump 10ml over the course of an hour?

I suppose if it dumps it in 1 go, I guess 20ml would ensure an hour later 10ml more goes in.

Hi.Yes it is 500mg/10ml and don't forget there is 500mg lidocaine too.

If we are talking about propofol, slow infusion is bad idea because it will be metabolised very fast. Bolus dose is better with 20-25cc of Anestofol. 1000mg propofol + 1000mg lidocaine is lethal for everyone.

Can you share your Anestofol resource via PM with me?

 

[Ceterum]

I always wondered why it gets so little coverage, since it's one of my go to methods. you need to be able to set yourself an iV line, so maybe that's why.

 

[Sunset Limited]

I´d also like to add those things to my bag ... would you mind sharing one of the Russian clearnet pharmacies with me via dm (if you found a link yet)?

Not yet sorry.

 

[HouseofMortok]

Hi.Yes it is 500mg/10ml and don't forget there is 500mg lidocaine too.

If we are talking about propofol, slow infusion is bad idea because it will be metabolised very fast. Bolus dose is better with 20-25cc of Anestofol. 1000mg propofol + 1000mg lidocaine is lethal for everyone.

Can you share your Anestofol resource via PM with me?

Got ya, so 2x 10ml bottles will be 1000mg/20ml and that equates to 20cc, injected say over the course of 30 seconds, it's getting it all in before passing out though.