Discussion Should Israel invade Rafah?

[Pessimist]

1. It is accurate:

Israel to UN: Northern Gaza Should Evacuate Within 24 Hours

As Israel prepares for possible Gaza ground offensive, IDF says 1.1 million Palestinians should move south, which a UN spokesperson calls ‘impossible’ without devastating humanitarian consequences

www.voanews.com

Civilians who don't leave northern Gaza to be considered associate of 'terrorists': Israel

Israeli army airdrops 'urgent warning' flyers on northern Gaza, urging residents to evacuate to south of besieged enclave - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

2.
My point about the UN being biased by the USA still stands.

3. You have no problem condemning Hamas as a whole, but when it comes to Israel you attempt to dodge the question by saying 'oh I'll only condemn specific actions'. You are refusing to condemn a government that has killed over 100x more innocent children than Hamas. Also, you should educate yourself about the historical origin of Hamas (as well as this conflict in general). Israel helped create Hamas to prevent a more moderate government:

How Israel went from helping 'create' Hamas to bombing it

Hamas has roots watered by Israeli funding, former military governor of Gaza admits

www.tbsnews.net

1. Cherry-picking of sources from October. Again, the statistics show that Israel is waiting for the civilians to evacuate from Rafah:



2. The UN is actually heavily biased against Israel:

UN Watch Database

Each year, the UN General Assembly condemns Israel 20 times more than Iran, Syria & North Korea. Dictatorships like China, Venezuela & Saudi Arabia dominate key UN human rights bodies. See UN Watch’s latest facts & figures: unwatch.org/database.

unwatch.org

3. I don't condemn the entirety of Palestine. I condemn Hamas because it is an Islamist terrorist organization and a jihadist group:

- Hamas and the PIJ are responsible for many terrorist attacks, including countless suicide attacks, the Gush Etzion kidnapping and murder, the Night of the Pitchforks, etc.

- The governing charter of Hamas, "The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement", openly dedicates Hamas to genocide against the Jewish people. Hamas also claims that the French revolution, the Russian revolution, colonialism and both world wars were created as a Jewish Zionist conspiracy and that the Freemasons and Rotary clubs are Zionist fronts and refers to the fraudulent Protocols of the Elders of Zion, an antisemitic text purporting to describe a plan to achieve global domination by the Jewish people.

https://embassies.gov.il/holysee/AboutIsrael/the-middle-east/Pages/The%20Hamas-Covenant.aspx?fbclid=IwAR09wTIqdA0mQhNEPav6cuoDZd7EVLNc9VMJTG9XwP5NdZLo-P7XDzl290k

- Hamas leaders steal the aid money that is supposed to be given to the Palestinian people. Do you know how much money was spent on their terror tunnels? But not a single bomb shelter was built in Gaza.

'Hamas's top 3 leaders are worth staggering $11 billion' - Times of India

Middle East News: The leaders in question, including Ismail Haniyeh, Moussa Abu Marzuk, and Khaled Mashal, have been seen enjoying the high life in various locations, i

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

- Yahya Sinwar, the leader of Hamas in Gaza, murders Palestinians.


- Hamas leaders are "proud" to "sacrifice" Gazan civilians.

Hamas is “proud” to “sacrifice” Gazan civilians | PMW Analysis

Hamas sacrifices Gazan civilians

palwatch.org

 

[Placo]

At the beginning of this conflict I was brazenly on Israel's side but now I'm much more cautious and I'm actually starting to like the Palestinian cause given the incredibly exaggerated response they've implemented, it's a bit as if someone threw a punch at you and your answer would reduce him to the point of dying, I think they have lost a bit of control over the reaction, at this point invading or not invading Rafah I don't think it will change the situation much, more than anything else I seem to have heard that in the peace agreements between Israel and Egypt it is established that Rafah should not host Israeli troops, this could be a diplomatic problem between the two countries.