Resource SN megathread

[RacilyDank]

Yes, I am. being in a shithole country do have one or two perks.

Do you mind if I ask why it is that you want to ctb?

 

[IfHeDiesHeDies]

I know a lot of people who've visited Cambodia and said apart from the poverty and corruption it is a beautiful place.

Apologies if I've come across at all combative or defensive. I do value your input into this discussion. It's hard to hear when you've put so much effort and hope into a method.

No apologies needed, we are just both passionate regarding the subject matter. I understand how you feel, but just consider what I said and do further research if needed as this is one thing you don't want to fxxx up.

 

[IfHeDiesHeDies]

Do you mind if I ask why it is that you want to ctb?

I have stage 3 ovarian cancer and have decided not to undergo any further treatments.

 

[Madrid27]

I have stage 3 ovarian cancer and have decided not to undergo any further treatments.

Sorry. And do u will use n?

 

[IfHeDiesHeDies]

Sorry. And do u will use n?

Yes, i will use N plus meto and some benzos to calm the nerves.

 

[Madrid27]

Yes, i will use N plus meto and some benzos to calm the nerves.

Good metho, pretty. Its my prefer.benzos are necesary?

 

[IfHeDiesHeDies]

Good metho, pretty. Its my prefer.benzos are necesary?

Not strictly, but I just want to be calm when I take the pentobarb. Another great method is fentanyl.

 

[RacilyDank]

I have stage 3 ovarian cancer and have decided not to undergo any further treatments.

I'm sorry to hear that :(

I respect you choice not to but why are you not undergoing further treatment?

 

[RacilyDank]

Not strictly, but I just want to be calm when I take the pentobarb. Another great method is fentanyl.

How does one use fentanyl to ctb? Is it necessary to inject it or is it just as lethal with any route of administration?

 

[IfHeDiesHeDies]

I'm sorry to hear that :(

I respect you choice not to but why are you not undergoing further treatment?

Because I can foresee the further horrors if treatment is continued as i am sure you are aware how much damage chemo does to the body. I would rather be go out with a semi- functional body together with a shred of dignity.

 

[IfHeDiesHeDies]

How does one use fentanyl to ctb? Is it necessary to inject it or is it just as lethal with any route of administration?

It is normally done through IV or patches. IV is best, you are knocked out in less than 1 minute when death follows within the hour.

 

[sep 19]

@IfHeDiesHeDies
do you sell N by any chance?


1-
you said you read autopsy reports
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/testing-sn.4299/#post-63464

but here you say you have no idea what they took or it was suicide or not
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/testing-sn.4299/#post-63464
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-12#post-64238

stores needing it for the curing of meat
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-12#post-64255

have you seen an autopsy report at all?


2-
It's been scientifically proven that long acting benzo could not reverse the damage done by sn ( again, you can google it and see the paper on that).
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/testing-sn.4299/#post-63359

proven??
benzo could not reverse the damage done by sn??? was this a topic for research?
can you give us a link to that paper? can you prove any of your claims regarding sn? working in a hospital etc.?


3-
Out of the 3 I attended to, 2 of them were conscious
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/testing-sn.4299/#post-63448

you couldn't save those conscious ones? what exactly did you do for them? please describe it since you have a lot experience with it


4-
I don't know the exact details re anti-emetics etc.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/testing-sn.4299/#post-63348

But my medical training
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-12#post-64238

first they say add bicarbonate, then they took it out and keep on changing the requisite dosage.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/testing-sn.4299/#post-63359

PPH has one clinical trial on the subject.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-12#post-64197

you know bicarbonate is no longer in ppeh but you don't know about anti-emetics? and you've read the last version of ppeh and clinical report but still don't know about anti-emetics??


5-
abnormally high levels of nitrite and methemoglobin even after gastric lavage, charcoal and methylene blue.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/testing-sn.4299/#post-63464

nitrite even after gastric lavage was found in their stomach????
charcoal was used for nitrite poisoning after 12 hours????? or when the patient was unconscious?????
no wonder why your patients died


6-
medical literature suggests it is risky, painful and a long drawn out process?
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-12#post-64166

it is risky??????? since when medical literature suggests suicide methods?


7-
there is no way they will be knocked out.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-12#post-64238

under the illusion that you can just take SN and be unconscious in 15 -30 mins which is clearly not true.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-12#post-64222

how do you know it's not true? you said you don't even know what your patients had taken

unless they take short-acting barbs together
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-12#post-64238

I take the pentobarb
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-12#post-64281

aha, that figures


8-
do further research
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-12#post-64270

please teach me how to do research. for example by listening to a random guy on the internet with 0 evidences?

 

[Freesan]

Why do you guys consider SN as a peaceful method when medical literature suggests it is risky, painful and a long drawn out process? I know this post will be unpopular but just wish to learn what you guys have read which makes this method appealing to you

Relatively peaceful.
My info comes from the ppeh and sites. Among them this one.

I dont really care much if i have pain for f.e. 30-60min as long as i die. Preferably through something I consume in the privacy of my own home.
I choose that over many years of being alive suffering.

For me the method is not only being chosen or rated by how peaceful and deadly it is, but also by how accessable it is and how hard it is to execute.

Regarding your experiences.
You dont know how much sn the people you saw in the hospital took and what else besides sn they took.
They were likely not doing optimal sn poisoning. Maybe accidentally.
Several still died in the hospital, even with help to try and save them.

With optimal I mean;
15g+dose of sn dissolved in 50-100ml water,
800mg tagamet,
antiemetics,
and fasting 8 hours before.
Also not consuming anything that would decrease the chances of the method.
Possibly adding sleeping pills.

If the patients you saw were not doing optimal sn poisoning, that means they were not really representative for judging the method sn poisoning.

 

[IfHeDiesHeDies]

Relatively peaceful.
My info comes from the ppeh and sites. Among them this one.

I dont really care much if i have pain for f.e. 30-60min as long as i die. Preferably through something I consume in the privacy of my own home.
I choose that over many years of being alive suffering.

For me the method is not only being chosen or rated by how peaceful and deadly it is, but also by how accessable it is and how hard it is to execute.

Regarding your experiences.
You dont know how much sn the people you saw in the hospital took and what else besides sn they took.
They were likely not doing optimal sn poisoning. Maybe accidentally.
Several still died in the hospital, even with help to try and save them.

With optimal I mean;
15g+dose of sn dissolved in 50-100ml water,
800mg tagamet,
antiemetics,
and fasting 8 hours before.
Also not consuming anything that would decrease the chances of the method.
Possibly adding sleeping pills.

If the patients you saw were not doing optimal sn poisoning, that means they were not really representative for judging the method sn poisoning.

You are right, I don't know the exact dosage taken by the patients nor do I know whether they took anti-emetics. But you have to remember that the PPH was changing the recommended dosage and the other medications which was supposed to give a peaceful death which prompts to think that they have not done enough research on the method. it is irresponsible for them to print things which they are unsure about. They may make further amendments in the next update. So as of now, do we really know what the optimal dose is? Should we take bicarbonate or tagamet?Are opioids needed? What about benzos?

 

[IfHeDiesHeDies]

@IfHeDiesHeDies
do you sell N by any chance?


1-
you said you read autopsy reports
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/testing-sn.4299/#post-63464

but here you say you have no idea what they took or it was suicide or not
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/testing-sn.4299/#post-63464
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-12#post-64238

stores needing it for the curing of meat
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-12#post-64255

have you seen an autopsy report at all?


2-
It's been scientifically proven that long acting benzo could not reverse the damage done by sn ( again, you can google it and see the paper on that).
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/testing-sn.4299/#post-63359

proven??
benzo could not reverse the damage done by sn??? was this a topic for research?
can you give us a link to that paper? can you prove any of your claims regarding sn? working in a hospital etc.?


3-
Out of the 3 I attended to, 2 of them were conscious
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/testing-sn.4299/#post-63448

you couldn't save those conscious ones? what exactly did you do for them? please describe it since you have a lot experience with it


4-
I don't know the exact details re anti-emetics etc.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/testing-sn.4299/#post-63348

But my medical training
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-12#post-64238

first they say add bicarbonate, then they took it out and keep on changing the requisite dosage.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/testing-sn.4299/#post-63359

PPH has one clinical trial on the subject.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-12#post-64197

you know bicarbonate is no longer in ppeh but you don't know about anti-emetics? and you've read the last version of ppeh and clinical report but still don't know about anti-emetics??


5-
abnormally high levels of nitrite and methemoglobin even after gastric lavage, charcoal and methylene blue.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/testing-sn.4299/#post-63464

nitrite even after gastric lavage was found in their stomach????
charcoal was used for nitrite poisoning after 12 hours????? or when the patient was unconscious?????
no wonder why your patients died


6-
medical literature suggests it is risky, painful and a long drawn out process?
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-12#post-64166

it is risky??????? since when medical literature suggests suicide methods?


7-
there is no way they will be knocked out.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-12#post-64238

under the illusion that you can just take SN and be unconscious in 15 -30 mins which is clearly not true.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-12#post-64222

how do you know it's not true? you said you don't even know what your patients had taken

unless they take short-acting barbs together
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-12#post-64238

I take the pentobarb
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-12#post-64281

aha, that figures


8-
do further research
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-12#post-64270

please teach me how to do research. for example by listening to a random guy on the internet with 0 evidences?

Thanks for taking the effort to write this up. I apologize I only took a cursory look and I think if you read my posts in context, everything is pretty much self- explanatory. But I have to state that I don't sell n or any other meds, i wonder how you ever got that idea.

 

[sep 19]

Thanks for taking the effort to write this up. I apologize I only took a cursory look and I think if you read my posts in context, everything is pretty much self- explanatory. But I have to state that I don't sell n or any other meds, i wonder how you ever got that idea.

thanks for the reinforcement buddy
the context of your posts was a condescending guy without even basic medical training who is not allowed to post a link here nor has he seen an autopsy report in his life

it seems sn works like a charm and is becoming so popular that someone has to create an account to shill for something obvious like N CO and barbs to stop others from using sn
the more doubt you spread the more certain i become

 

[OfficerK]

thanks for the reinforcement buddy
the context of your posts was a condescending guy without even basic medical training who is not allowed to post a link here nor has he seen an autopsy report in his life

it seems sn works like a charm and is becoming so popular that someone has to create an account to shill for something obvious like N CO and barbs to stop others from using sn
the more doubt you spread the more certain i become

What would she gain from spreading misinformation? I'm having a hard time imagining how someone would benefit from shilling for both Nembutal and CO.

You're not alone in doubting whether her accounts are relevant to us, but there's a pretty big distance between giving bad information in good faith and actually trying to mislead us.

 

[medusa]

Thanks for taking the effort to write this up. I apologize I only took a cursory look and I think if you read my posts in context, everything is pretty much self- explanatory. But I have to state that I don't sell n or any other meds, i wonder how you ever got that idea.

I am sorry you have cancer and also a bit jealous...wish I could give you my healthy ovaries so that you could go on living and I could have yours because I desperately want to die and if I had what you have it wouldn't all be my fault...it is truly unfair.
I can totally understand why you want to do this-my father in law committed suicide because of cancer and it was the right thing to do for him

 

[sep 19]

What would she gain from spreading misinformation? I'm having a hard time imagining how someone would benefit from shilling for both Nembutal and CO.

rope is available everywhere. does everyone use it? do you know the user here who has done months of research on it but couldn't use it?
have you seen users who come up with new solutions for their situation?

there's a pretty big distance between giving bad information in good faith and actually trying to mislead us.

i see no difference

 

[medusa]

rope is available everywhere. does everyone use it? do you know the user here who has done months of research on it but couldn't use it?
have you seen users who come up with new solutions for their situation?


i see no difference

are you here to troll or something?
Why would someone spread false information to stop others from using SN? SN is actually not THAT effective and the method she is using (phenobarbital) is pretty lethal as far as I know. The only problem is that it is slow acting and not so good as pentobarbital.
I myself have bought SN but am not sure I will use it, because I am scared it will not kill me

 

[OfficerK]

rope is available everywhere. does everyone use it? do you know the user here who has done months of research on it but couldn't use it?
have you seen users who come up with new solutions for their situation?


i see no difference

Well, me and many others find that intent makes a difference when trying to judge someone's character.

As for your first paragraph, I don't really see how it relates to what I wrote. Could you elaborate on what it has to do with me disagreeing with you accusing her of only wanting to shill for N and CO?

 

[sep 19]

are you here to troll or something?
Why would someone spread false information to stop others from using SN? SN is actually not THAT effective and the method she is using (phenobarbital) is pretty lethal as far as I know. The only problem is that it is slow acting and not so good as pentobarbital.
I myself have bought SN but am not sure I will use it, because I am scared it will not kill me

trolling? give me a break
i saw many discrepancies in her posts and i pointed them out for you especially the research paper and autopsy
he couldn't raise an argument for even one of my points. that should tell you a lot. you should start using your brain instead of heart more often

read your post again
Why would someone spread false information to stop others from using SN? because I am scared it will not kill me.

Well, me and many others find that intent makes a difference when trying to judge someone's character.

As for your first paragraph, I don't really see how it relates to what I wrote. Could you elaborate on what it has to do with me disagreeing with you accusing her of only wanting to shill for N and CO?

then it will only takes 2 other accounts on this website to stop you from using N and CO. then sanctionedsuicide will become lostallhope

as for the first paragraph, you should ask that question from those who are going to ctb with sn. actually why are you going to use your method to ctb? you can use another one

 

[Mugara]

I nearly ordered a wrong thing.
I got to one seller and what he sells is a "nitrite salt" with 0.6% concentration of actual SN.
How do I know for sure if another one doesn't sell me same thing? They don't seem to provide purity or any details that can help.

 

[John Doe]

I understand but there are better and more reliable methods out there which is equally as accessible as SN and I think you have read my previous comments re Exit int'l and the PPH.

I would say CO and inert gases like nitrogen and Argon.

What would you recommend instead? I've tried CO and it didn't worked, because the smell drowns attention and they called the firefighters. The other ones are a bit complicated and I'm too clumsy.

I am sorry you have cancer and also a bit jealous...wish I could give you my healthy ovaries so that you could go on living and I could have yours because I desperately want to die and if I had what you have it wouldn't all be my fault...it is truly unfair.
I can totally understand why you want to do this-my father in law committed suicide because of cancer and it was the right thing to do for him

Me too. I wish we could trade places.

 

[medusa]

trolling? give me a break
i saw many discrepancies in her posts and i pointed them out for you especially the research paper and autopsy
he couldn't raise an argument for even one of my points. that should tell you a lot. you should start using your brain instead of heart more often

read your post again
Why would someone spread false information to stop others from using SN? because I am scared it will not kill me.


then it will only takes 2 other accounts on this website to stop you from using N and CO. then sanctionedsuicide will become lostallhope

as for the first paragraph, you should ask that question from those who are going to ctb with sn. actually why are you going to use your method to ctb? you can use another one

SN is not as reliable as some other poisons. The body's natural enzymes need to overwhelmed and they work from the moment of ingestion to restore hemoglobin again.
I have SN myself but dunno whether I will use it. I can't find out how reliable it truly is.
Btw, he is a she.

 

[IfHeDiesHeDies]

I am sorry you have cancer and also a bit jealous...wish I could give you my healthy ovaries so that you could go on living and I could have yours because I desperately want to die and if I had what you have it wouldn't all be my fault...it is truly unfair.
I can totally understand why you want to do this-my father in law committed suicide because of cancer and it was the right thing to do for him

Thanks for your post but trust me you don't want to get cancer, it's truly horrible.... I suppose the only positive thing about it is I can leave the world with less guilt and it helps with overcoming the dreaded survival instinct.

 

[IfHeDiesHeDies]

What would you recommend instead? I've tried CO and it didn't worked, because the smell drowns attention and they called the firefighters. The other ones are a bit complicated and I'm too clumsy.

For CO, I have read that you are supposed to light the fire outside so the smoke can dissipate quickly and not draw any unwanted attention. Only bring the charcoal inside when it is no longer emitting smoke and is ash-grey in color.

As to other methods, I am no expert and have not looked into them in details. It really depends what you are looking for as no method is perfect. If you want certainty and speed, then you may consider the violent methods and also sodium azide ( extreme precautions must be taken in storing and administration of this chemical. eg it will cause an explosion when it comes into contact with metal. Also, make sure you have a sign warning others of the substance as vomit and other discharge FROM YOUR BODY is also extremely poisonous , PLEASE READ UP ON THIS METHOD BEFORE PROCEEDING). If peacefulness is of more importance to you, I can only think of barbiturates and certain opiods which i understand may not be easily acessible.

 

[medusa]

Thanks for your post but trust me you don't want to get cancer, it's truly horrible.... I suppose the only positive thing about it is I can leave the world with less guilt and it helps with overcoming the dreaded survival instinct.

Yeah! I suppose I am not so scared of pain anymore as I have several chronic pain conditions and already have to live with pain every day...at least cancer is a pain which stops-chronic pain never stops

 

[IfHeDiesHeDies]

Yeah! I suppose I am not so scared of pain anymore as I have several chronic pain conditions and already have to live with pain every day...at least cancer is a pain which stops-chronic pain never stops

I am sorry to hear about your chronic pains. Do you have a pain doc to control your symptoms? And yes, with cancer at least there is an end and if I can be bothered to wait, i could also go via Dignitas.

 

[Chris]

What about amounium nitrate or potassium nitrate, I have access to plenty of both