Resource SN megathread

[straydog]

Does anyone have experience in ordering SN to their workplace? The sellers I've found only ship to businesses/labs and since I work at a university I think I should be able to order but I'd appreciate hearing from others who have gone this route. I'm also somewhat skeptical of the legitimacy of these retailers and would love to hear from folks who have ordered from them - not naming them for obvious reasons, please PM me.

 

[Fox99]

Hello people
I've been looking for SN in UK but without success. If anyone has a source or can help somehow please PM me.

 

[gbi2]

I followed Vizzys guide using 500ml of boiled rainwater and 2.5g (I can't measure 2.5 so I did 3, took a bit off so it went to 2 and then a tiny bit back on). And my test strip immediately went deep red for both nitrite and nitrate. I took the strip out and looked at the test strip guide and they state to leave in for 60 seconds. I put it back in but the colours were the same.

I took another strip and first put it in plain boiled rainwater for around 30 seconds. Neither square changed colour. I then put it in the 2nd cup again for 60 seconds and they both went red again but not quite as red as before, between 5 and 10 for nitrite. I then put the same strip in cup 1 and they eventually both went as dark as I think they could go.

Does anyone know if the high nitrate matters, or is it ok as long as nitrite is high too?

 

[Scattered-Soul]

I'm attempting to once again ask for a source for Europe/the Balkans since the one I have is just too expensive for me and I'm running out of time health-wise. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[lightnings]

I apologize if there are any misunderstandings stemming from the nature of this comment and I don't intend to come off as a cruel person, nor is this comment written to imply that I am such, but all of you have too few posts and not much of a "reputation" to be trusted with something with as much importance as an SN source. The amount of sources are quickly going down, restrictions are being placed, since people have began to take notice in how often SN is used as an end of life substance.

Also, new members and a lot of people in that case, aren't very careful with sources and I've seen many times where sources were shared publicly on the forum. Authorities may be browsing this place looking for sources to shut down.

I know it may sound ridiculous but you'll have to be a reputable and well known or at the very least, known, member of SS before expecting to have much success with getting sources, unfortunately. And like I mentioned before, you may get a source regardless since not everyone is careful with sources… Very disappointing that people are so careless in that respect, it has nothing to do with you though.

Could I just send you a PM confirming a source I know if it's effectively trusted?

 

[crepho]

looking for a source in the US, pm pls

 

[ouf]

can you use weed as the antiemetic for this method?

 

[Darkover]

can you use weed as the antiemetic for this method?

no it requires something stronger than weed

 

[real person]

Can someone please PM me a good SN source, especially in Ireland?

did you find it? do you mind pming me?

 

[real person]

can s pm me a source that ships worldwide? thank you

did you find an SN source? could u please pm me?

 

[NappinHappening]

Hello everyone.
Any idea where to find/buy SN compatible antiemetics?? Im trying to dodge the doctors/prescriptions here. Im from east europe.
Planning pretty soon on leaving this fucked up society fro good i hope.

Im on a new account here,

Thanks

 

[gbi2]

I have done 2 tests on my SN. Both had the same results, first testing was with 2x500ml boiled rainwater and second time I used 2x1l of boiled rainwater. The rainwater on it's own remained white for Nitrite and Nitrate.

Both times, the Nitrite and Nitrate have gone very red. The Tetra 6 in 1 test strips I bought measure up to 200 for nitrate and 10 for nitrite. The red matched the max for both. I have not been able to find any reliable info that says whether a high nitrate is a problem if the nitrite is also high. I found one comment on an aquatic forum where someone asked about this and a reply was you don't need to worry about nitrate if nitrite is high because it can throw some tests out.
This evening I have done a blood test. I cut my to nails and when I do I always do it badly and end up pulling some nail off so I dis this and as per usual one or two toes ended up bleeding a bit. I chose the one that had the most blood and tried to drop a small amount of SN on it, missed and it dropped on an envelope I was resting my foot on, picked a bit of SN up in my fingers (it has the consistency of snow when it is dry and a bit crunchy). The blood went black within about 1 second. I went and washed my foot in the bath.

So I believe I can accept my SN is ok. I have now taken an antiemetic, Dramamine to see how I feel (18:00) and two Ibuprofen to see how I feel.

 

[mia_qwerty]

I have done 2 tests on my SN. Both had the same results, first testing was with 2x500ml boiled rainwater and second time I used 2x1l of boiled rainwater. The rainwater on it's own remained white for Nitrite and Nitrate.

Both times, the Nitrite and Nitrate have gone very red. The Tetra 6 in 1 test strips I bought measure up to 200 for nitrate and 10 for nitrite. The red matched the max for both. I have not been able to find any reliable info that says whether a high nitrate is a problem if the nitrite is also high. I found one comment on an aquatic forum where someone asked about this and a reply was you don't need to worry about nitrate if nitrite is high because it can throw some tests out.
This evening I have done a blood test. I cut my to nails and when I do I always do it badly and end up pulling some nail off so I dis this and as per usual one or two toes ended up bleeding a bit. I chose the one that had the most blood and tried to drop a small amount of SN on it, missed and it dropped on an envelope I was resting my foot on, picked a bit of SN up in my fingers (it has the consistency of snow when it is dry and a bit crunchy). The blood went black within about 1 second. I went and washed my foot in the bath.

So I believe I can accept my SN is ok. I have now taken an antiemetic, Dramamine to see how I feel (18:00) and two Ibuprofen to see how I feel.

Wow so your process has begun?

 

[gbi2]

Wow so your process has begun?

I haven't decided to take the SN tonight, but I may do. One problem I have is that when I don't eat for a few hours I get really bad stomach acid and I'm getting it now. It makes me cough and heave. I've tried some things in the past to stop it but nothing worked. I last ate at 12:30 today, it was a small meal and the only thing I've eaten since yesterday afternoon, and am shaking just from not eating. I also thought the antiemetic would have a positive effect on the slight nausea I get from having tinnitus and intermittent double vision. but it hasn't done anything for me. So I may have to try again in a couple of days (have an appointment at job centre on friday morning) and have a more substantial meal mid afternoon after also having breakfast and see if that solved the acid problem and the desire to vomit so by late evening I'm feeling more like taking the SN.

 

[moonlightwilderness]

How likely is it that I would successfully CTB using only >98% purity SN and nothing else? I need to CTB as soon as possible and I'm not confident enough with hanging to do it.

 

[Fox99]

About the antiemetic, I was able to get Prochlorperazine. It's absorbed via buccal absorption.

1. Is it fine being buccal? That means it stays in your gum for 1h-2h. If it's fine, should I take SN ~1h after taking the antiemetic?

2. The recommended dose is 6mg/2 tablets. Should I take that amount or more? I saw somewhere saying to take 3 tablets but it didn't say the dosage.

 

[real person]

This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods.

Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you.

First of all, let's discuss why this method works, and how it kills.

Spoiler: The effects of Sodium Nitrite

Sodium Nitrite, NaNO2, acts as a catalyst in the conversion of the hemoglobin in your blood into methemoglobin (MetHB), a molecule with a much higher affinity with oxygen. This occurs when the ferrous ions in the regular hemoglobin are converted into ferric ones.
Since it's affinity is so high, methemoglobin cannot let the oxygen flow into other tissues that need it, thus depriving them of oxygen even while you're breathing. Death, then, occurs by hypoxia.
Sodium Nitrite poisoning symptoms include nausea, vertigo, vomiting, very heavy headaches and, should you manage to not pass out for too long, seizures.
The PPH claims that, during a monitored suicide with SN, the patient was unconscious at 12 minutes and dead by 35. However, some sources claim that SN poisoning might take as much as 8 hours to kill, probably due to low dosage.
Since methemoglobin creation is a natural process in our bodies, you must be aware that a certain enzyme works to transform it back into hemoglobin again. This is why the recommended dosage has varied on the PPH so much, as the syntetization of these enzymes and their "power" to overcome the formation of MetHB depends purely on your body, thus making a normal, general dose for all who chose this method very hard to determine, unlike N.

As for the physical symptoms your body will experience, not much will really change. Since your blood will mainly be MetHB, it will take on a bluish chocolate brown color, and the tips of your fingers, toes and nose (amongst others) will turn slightly blue from cyanosis.

Now, lets take a look at the "shopping cart".

Spoiler: What is needed for this method?

You'll need the following:

SN: The main compund for this method, Sodium Nitrite is easy enough to find. You're looking for >98% purity Nitrite. This chemical is sold without regulation and can be bought from Amazon, Ebay or any lab supplier in your area. 100 grams cost between 8 and 10€. This chemical is completely legal to own and is used during curation of meats to preserve their color. It's described as "White to yellowish powder/crystals" and it's said to have "slightly salty taste". It is also very soluble in water.
The recommended dose from the PPH is 15 grams, however, this has increased on different issues, from only 5, to 12 and now to 15.
Very important: You're looking for Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate; NaNO2, not NaNO3.
Should you not find it just by looking up Sodium Nitrite, look for: NaNO2, NNaO2 or Filmerine. Make sure you're buying what you want and that it's purity is high enough. For more information on it plus some industrial sellers, check Sodium Nitrite on Pubchem.

Antiemetics: Strong enough antiemetics for this method are not OTC, so you'll need to see your way around this. You're looking for Metoclopramide or any of it's commercial names, like Reglan/Primperan. This antiemetic needs to be a Dopamine blocker for it to work.
Antiemetics aren't 100% necessary for this method, however; just like with N, you wont accomplish anything if you end up puking it all out, which is likely. This will also most likely be the bulk of the money you'll use during this method.

Acid Regulators: Another thing recommended in the PPH is raising your stomach's pH to make the SN more effective. This can be accomplished with drugs like Tagamet (The one recommended on the PPH, 800mg, which is to my knowledge OTC) or even bicarbonate, though not as effective.

Spoiler: A few extra comments

I recently got asked a few things regarding SN. First of all, you must know that the effects of this poisoning are completely reversible. It is very unlikely that you will have any permanent damage should you be "saved" during your attempt. Secondly, since this method relies on hypoxia, cardiovascular problems will reduce the amount of MetHB in blood needed to actually kill you. This, however, shouldnt really be a problem since it is sold starting from 100 grams, far more than the amount needed.

Lastly, there have been cases of people recovering from SN poisoning without any "side effects", but even if the ambulance is called soon enough, it is not certain that you will survive.

Should you have any question you can't find the answer of, please comment it and maybe you'll find someone on this community who knows.
Also, should you have any more information you'd like to share, please post it and tag me so I can edit this post and get it included. Thank you.

hey do u mind if i pm you?

 

[real person]

Out of curiosity, I searched around and found a US-based small business (not chemical) selling SN in 4oz, 8oz, 1lb, 5lb quantities. As I already have SN, I won't make a purchase, but I'm willing to share the source to people who can buy and confirm validity. Feel free to PM me ONLY IF your account is from May 2022 or earlier with 20+ posts in this forum. I understand this is exclusionary, but sources are becoming scarce in the US and this website has received too much media attention these past 2 years. An influx of orders for this source will be suspicious as well, given their size/specialty.

can i pm you for the source?

looking for a source for sodium nitrite in the US, please. it seems like they've made it impossible to obtain now. thank you.

did you find a source? mind pming me?

Sure if I can get it. Once I have in hand will dm you tge source if they will sell to me.

mind pming me?

 

[controlledchaos420]

apparently purchasing sn is illegal so where the hell do i get it now?? this was my last damn hope what the shit

 

[Scattered-Soul]

apparently purchasing sn is illegal so where the hell do i get it now?? this was my last damn hope what the shit

Where are you from?

 

[controlledchaos420]

Where are you from?

from the us :( missouri, if we're getting personal

 

[real person]

hi did anyone pm u? Or can anyone help me with a UK source?

did you find a source??

 

[Scattered-Soul]

from the us :( missouri, if we're getting personal

Oh, I knew that there have been strict regulations in the UK but I thought it was perfectly legal in the US? I'm really sorry to hear this.

 

[justwannaleave]

Looking for a way to get SN in morocco, if somebody could help me that would be great !! Thanks !

 

[ThymeToLeave]

If I order SN will the company expect me to be able to explain why I want it? (I'm in the USA so finding it on google is easy.)

 

[PrettyPotato]

Does anyone know of any reliable SN suppliers in Thailand? There are a load of listings on lazada - including sodium nitrite tablets for hospital cleaning? - but no idea what purity they are. I'd really appreciate it if someone could DM any info at all as I'm only in TH for another few weeks. Thankyou :)

Does anyone know of any reliable SN suppliers in Thailand? There are a load of listings on lazada - including sodium nitrite tablets for hospital cleaning? - but no idea what purity they are. I'd really appreciate it if someone could DM any info at all as I'm only in TH for another few weeks. Thankyou :)

Sod it, ordered a random one. Cash on delivery, and it's from a chemical co.
Was only about $3 for 1kg so no big deal if it's rubbish!

 

[PrettyPotato]

Could anyone please give their thoughts on whether this approach would work ok?

 

[PrettyPotato]

I think I might be the only one in here?

Seems I need to DM others rather than the other way around if asking for supply help though? Sorry, just discovered that.
Is anyone willing to be DMed?

To reiterate, I'm looking for somewhere in Thailand for SN, and really am running out of time (bit less than 2 weeks, but presumably shops are closed for NYE). I don't have any faith the stuff I've ordered off lazada is any good, or will even turn up - was more out of desperation.

On the positive side, domperidone was super easy - literally walked into the first pharmacy I saw, and they were like 'sure, how many do you want?' !

 

[iwdphm]

Is it legal to buy Sodium Nitrite in the US?

 

[Action]

Not as a private person. Only if you have a business that requires the use of it.