Resource SN megathread

[reborn87]

I actually got some info from this source too. Thanks for linking it!

In USA is it same sn that's in Amazon? How much to take ? Is it painless death?
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This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods.

Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you.

First of all, let's discuss why this method works, and how it kills.

Spoiler: The effects of Sodium Nitrite

Sodium Nitrite, NaNO2, acts as a catalyst in the conversion of the hemoglobin in your blood into methemoglobin (MetHB), a molecule with a much higher affinity with oxygen. This occurs when the ferrous ions in the regular hemoglobin are converted into ferric ones.
Since it's affinity is so high, methemoglobin cannot let the oxygen flow into other tissues that need it, thus depriving them of oxygen even while you're breathing. Death, then, occurs by hypoxia.
Sodium Nitrite poisoning symptoms include nausea, vertigo, vomiting, very heavy headaches and, should you manage to not pass out for too long, seizures.
The PPH claims that, during a monitored suicide with SN, the patient was unconscious at 12 minutes and dead by 35. However, some sources claim that SN poisoning might take as much as 8 hours to kill, probably due to low dosage.
Since methemoglobin creation is a natural process in our bodies, you must be aware that a certain enzyme works to transform it back into hemoglobin again. This is why the recommended dosage has varied on the PPH so much, as the syntetization of these enzymes and their "power" to overcome the formation of MetHB depends purely on your body, thus making a normal, general dose for all who chose this method very hard to determine, unlike N.

As for the physical symptoms your body will experience, not much will really change. Since your blood will mainly be MetHB, it will take on a bluish chocolate brown color, and the tips of your fingers, toes and nose (amongst others) will turn slightly blue from cyanosis.

Now, lets take a look at the "shopping cart".

Spoiler: What is needed for this method?

You'll need the following:

SN: The main compund for this method, Sodium Nitrite is easy enough to find. You're looking for >98% purity Nitrite. This chemical is sold without regulation and can be bought from Amazon, Ebay or any lab supplier in your area. 100 grams cost between 8 and 10€. This chemical is completely legal to own and is used during curation of meats to preserve their color. It's described as "White to yellowish powder/crystals" and it's said to have "slightly salty taste". It is also very soluble in water.
The recommended dose from the PPH is 15 grams, however, this has increased on different issues, from only 5, to 12 and now to 15.
Very important: You're looking for Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate; NaNO2, not NaNO3.
Should you not find it just by looking up Sodium Nitrite, look for: NaNO2, NNaO2 or Filmerine. Make sure you're buying what you want and that it's purity is high enough. For more information on it plus some industrial sellers, check Sodium Nitrite on Pubchem.

Antiemetics: Strong enough antiemetics for this method are not OTC, so you'll need to see your way around this. You're looking for Metoclopramide or any of it's commercial names, like Reglan/Primperan. This antiemetic needs to be a Dopamine blocker for it to work.
Antiemetics aren't 100% necessary for this method, however; just like with N, you wont accomplish anything if you end up puking it all out, which is likely. This will also most likely be the bulk of the money you'll use during this method.

Acid Regulators: Another thing recommended in the PPH is raising your stomach's pH to make the SN more effective. This can be accomplished with drugs like Tagamet (The one recommended on the PPH, 800mg, which is to my knowledge OTC) or even bicarbonate, though not as effective.

Spoiler: A few extra comments

I recently got asked a few things regarding SN. First of all, you must know that the effects of this poisoning are completely reversible. It is very unlikely that you will have any permanent damage should you be "saved" during your attempt. Secondly, since this method relies on hypoxia, cardiovascular problems will reduce the amount of MetHB in blood needed to actually kill you. This, however, shouldnt really be a problem since it is sold starting from 100 grams, far more than the amount needed.

Lastly, there have been cases of people recovering from SN poisoning without any "side effects", but even if the ambulance is called soon enough, it is not certain that you will survive.

Should you have any question you can't find the answer of, please comment it and maybe you'll find someone on this community who knows.
Also, should you have any more information you'd like to share, please post it and tag me so I can edit this post and get it included. Thank you.

Amazon there is 6.25%. How much of that would someone that 140 lbs need to take?

It might help beat SI but you also likely will be so out of it and lethargic that you won't have the energy to take the 2nd glass when you vomit. Idk for sure tho. Never taken benzos so I know I'd have a low tolerance to it personally

Can u gage anti nausea med? What is best otc recommended?

If I order SN will the company expect me to be able to explain why I want it? (I'm in the USA so finding it on google is easy.)

Were u able to order it? I'm in USA too

 

[reborn87]

Does the red cap sn pure and work?

 

[DarkDays97]

Could anyone link me to a reliable source? I'm in the U.K. Thank you

 

[reborn87]

I'm in USA someone pls link me a reliable source.

 

[everyonesaniki]

I've just ordered SN. In case they ask what I needed high purity SN for, what should I say? What easy scientific experiment would it be useful for that I can use as an excuse?

 

[reborn87]

I've just ordered SN. In case they ask what I needed high purity SN for, what should I say? What easy scientific experiment would it be useful for that I can use as an excuse?

Where did u order from?

 

[cryone]

I have this source but they only accept payments through crypto, is it likely a scam or do many sources also do this?

 

[reborn87]

It sounds like scam.
Can you pls share link to your source?
How painful is sn?

 

[cryone]

It sounds like scam.

alright, i was expecting that. thank you.

if anyone has a reliable source for the US id be very grateful if you could PM it.

 

[reborn87]

If you find pls lmk im in USA too

 

[Banan321]

Impossible to source in europe :(

 

[reborn87]

I've just ordered SN. In case they ask what I needed high purity SN for, what should I say? What easy scientific experiment would it be useful for that I can use as an excuse?

Where did u order from? Pls send us link by DM.

 

[ecky]

Seems remarkably easy to acquire stuff in Poland. Ordered SN with no effort at all.
Buying SN back in Australia was peskier due to oversea shipping from some AliExpress-like site.
Also, apparently one of the most common OTC anti-emetics here (Ranitidine) was pulled back recently due to contamination with a carcinogenic substance. GG...
They replaced Ranitidine with Famotidine though and it's still OTC.

 

[ihatemylifee]

Need a sn us source please pm or link

 

[eppell]

Sorry if it's already been asked, but does the corpse get any treatment so the skin color gets more "normal" for the funeral?

 

[reborn87]

Seems remarkably easy to acquire stuff in Poland. Ordered SN with no effort at all.
Buying SN back in Australia was peskier due to oversea shipping from some AliExpress-like site.
Also, apparently one of the most common OTC anti-emetics here (Ranitidine) was pulled back recently due to contamination with a carcinogenic substance. GG...
They replaced Ranitidine with Famotidine though and it's still OTC.

Famatadine is Pepsid ac otc in USA. Does that still work or not strong enough for od on pills.

 

[Argo]

Propranolol question:

So I know this is considered non-necessary to SN regimens, I just want to understand how this works. In relationship to what death is like on SN. I'm completely ignorant here, but my understanding is that the SN gets into the stomach, gets into the bloodstream, messes with how blood carries oxygen, which causes the heart to pump faster to compensate ( gotta get more oxygen, right? )

And this tachycardia is why people once suggested something like Propranolol. The part I don't understand very well is, supposedly this slowing down of the heart's response to the blood oxygen problem, slows down loss of consciousness? And that's... bad, because more unpleasant symptoms? Or is it bad for some other reason?

My thinking here is that a longer period before consciousness is lost, means more opportunity to succeed in drinking a second cup if vomiting is to occur. But if it's only consciousness, and you're totally lethargic, can't move your arms, and unable to drink the second glass anyway ( despite being conscious), then there would be no point at all, right?

It has me thinking that maybe the real solution to vomitting is to drink such a large dose that one will die regardless if they vomit or not. But... who knows, this method is still in its infancy and I think as long as this method gets time to mature (And presuming SN is available) the future will have much more improved and reliable techniques to use SN with.

Could someone with better understanding chime in?

Cheers

 

[Reggierino]

SN is beginning to look like a less-favoured method. Too much work to avoid vomiting it up and ruining the attempt. Too difficult to get any pure SN.

There are now drugs available that are 1000 x as powerful as fentanyl. One simple tablet would suffice.

 

[reborn87]

SN is beginning to look like a less-favoured method. Too much work to avoid vomiting it up and ruining the attempt. Too difficult to get any pure SN.

There are now drugs available that are 1000 x as powerful as fentanyl. One simple tablet would suffice.

Which drugs

 

[dying flower]

I've just ordered SN. In case they ask what I needed high purity SN for, what should I say? What easy scientific experiment would it be useful for that I can use as an excuse?

Brewing beer, separating paint or google uses for it

 

[everyonesaniki]

Brewing beer, separating paint or google uses for it

Yeah I used the excuse that I need it to parkerize my knives.

 

[jonward55]

SN is beginning to look like a less-favoured method. Too much work to avoid vomiting it up and ruining the attempt. Too difficult to get any pure SN.

There are now drugs available that are 1000 x as powerful as fentanyl. One simple tablet would suffice.

Which drugs ?

 

[lifewasawillowtv]

Anyone managed to source anything and is from the UK without it getting confiscated at customs? Any help would be appreciated.

 

[ori758]

anyone has tips for to swallow the sn drink the easiest? going to use 30 grams (i'm pretty tall) dissolved with water, but can any one give me tips on how to swallow with most ease,

like, should i use more water than what's recommended for that amount (60-120 ml) to decrease the taste (like 200ml+)?
or maybe to have more water prepared as soon as i finish the drink to stop me from vomiting
or to use a sweet drink perhaps (one without sugar but with a sweetener, as i know sugar damage the absorption)?
and just general tips on how to drink it with a bit more ease if you know of anything.

also, should i just mix it in the water with a spoon like regular suger? (i know it sound silly but idk)

P.S i have an antiemetic so that's no problem (metoclopramide)

thanks in advance.
(posted it in my own thread but trying here as well lol)

 

[archerfish]

I'm in NA, if anyone has a good source that will ship to NA, please please pm me. Thank you~

 

[Alpercino]

I d be so rich if i offered SN CTB kits with all the stuff needed in a DNM..

Am in EU and cant find any way to get SN or a strong ae this method looks more and more like Nembutal

 

[dying flower]

I have SN, i have metoclopramide and i need something to reduce acid levels and ibuprofen and …and… and…

A serious question;

A lot of stuff is to prevent vomiting or increase absorption in the stomach but why has noone mentioned enemas? Wouldnt it eliminate a lot of complications? When i was looking into ctb by aspirin found cases where people simply used enemas and increased absorption folds and folds again.

I am thinking getting a simple enema kit, there are even kits for colonoscopy etc and use it? You cannot vomit, absorption is much better AND faster, no need to consider acid levels or dopamine levels, it is a bit harder but not impossible. Anyone cares to comment?

I can't remember where l read it but there has been successes using an enema. Seriously thinking of it myself

 

[cryone]

If I found a source but im unsure about its reliability and want to avoid a welfare check, what do I put for the address? Or does none of it matter in the grand scheme of things and I put my real address?

 

[NekiLik]

I can get Reglan in my country OTC, it comes in tablets of 10mg, how much do I need for it to be effective?

 

[SunDial555]

Sorry if already asked, but what would happen if one were to take an SN drink that was below 95% purity? Nothing at all? Or, no death, but partial/serious damage to the brain and or body?