Resource SN megathread

[belomorski]

I've read now a few articles, what hs the recommended dose for SN is it 20 or 25?

 

[cyndoesntwannalife]

Im in Germany, have the SN from a polish source but struggle to find meto without a receipt. Can someone point me in the right direction? I might be able to return the favor.

 

[HiddenPain]

I've read now a few articles, what hs the recommended dose for SN is it 20 or 25?

25g if you are under 100kg and 35g if you are over 100kg.

 

[andreamysk]

If you want private mail me, i got my SN from a online Shop from Portugal, they ask Not many questions and u dont need to fill the fiield with the company questions. It was a Lucky found.the purity is 99%

Good morning @Christian1986, sorry to bother you. I think I ordered from the same Portuguese source: when it arrived, did you test it? Thanks anyway :-)

 

[Christian1986]

Good morning @Christian1986, sorry to bother you. I think I ordered from the same Portuguese source: when it arrived, did you test it? Thanks anyway :-)

Hello andreamysk, nope i didnt tested the SN , oh you ordered from a restaurator website too "www.ecom........" ? I think it should be fine. Your welcome

 

[DontTouchMeImFamous]

what are the consequences of failure attempt?
How much time does it need to make me fall unconscious? How painful is it?

 

[Alessio]

Hi all, I am new to the site, I have read the guide of the method with SN which is the method I would like to do, I would like to ask one thing

I can't access for various reasons the drugs written in the guide, if I were to take only 15 gr of SN diluted in 100 ml of water, will the method work?

 

[Praestat_Mori]

if I were to take only 15 gr of SN diluted in 100 ml of water, will the method work?

As low as 2g can be lethal. You should still stick to the protocol bc that increases your chance to succeed if you're serious about your decision.
AE's would be the most important meds of the suggested ones. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...eelings-after-it-was-over.148141/post-2309564

Welcome to SS! Don't rush anything that would be my advice for now.

 

[Alessio]

Anche un livello basso come 2g può essere letale. Dovresti comunque attenerti al protocollo perché aumenta le tue possibilità di successo se prendi sul serio la tua decisione.
Gli AE sarebbero i farmaci più importanti tra quelli suggeriti. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...eelings-after-it-was-over.148141/post-2309564

Benvenuti in SS! Non abbiate fretta, questo è il mio consiglio per ora.

In the guide I quote this, "If you are not able to get antiemetics or benzodiazepines it doesn't mean that SN won't work because you can take SN without those drugs because SN is what will kill you. Those drugs help you with nausea, vomiting, anxiety and other symptoms that are related to SN consumption" So even if a person only takes SN the method should always work

 

[Praestat_Mori]

So even if a person only takes SN the method should always work

"always" yes, SN is a strong poison but actually in the case of vomiting and the earlier you vomit after ingestion you don't know how much SN has already been absorbed. If you cannot stay calm during the time when the SN effects take effect you also might call an ambulance, just things to think about. That's my opinion. You're free to decide whatever you want.

 

[Alessio]

"always" yes, SN is a strong poison but actually in the case of vomiting and the earlier you vomit after ingestion you don't know how much SN has already been absorbed. If you cannot stay calm during the time when the SN effects take effect you also might call an ambulance, just things to think about. That's my opinion. You're free to decide whatever you want.

I will prepare more than one drink if I have to vomit, and I have to do this method I am aware of what will be happening, my goal will be not to be found, but no it's not about doing it the way I want but I'm just trying to figure out if just taking SN without the drugs will work or not, unfortunately I can't access the drugs

 

[Alessio]

Before I enrolled here, and after reading the guide with SN, I went looking for my country, news of people who killed themselves using SN, I don't think these people learned about the lethality of SN here then I don't know exactly how they learned that it is a poison, however of all the reports read no person survived, so even without getting the medicines written in the guide the method works, you just have to not vomit for the first 10 minutes and then the poison will do the rest, please correct me if my theory is wrong

 

[Alessio]

I must correct myself, actually a boy from my country who died ingesting SNS, had visited this site

 

[Alessio]

Hello everyone, I am going to do the SN stat method, what I will use are:

1- Antiemetic, one of the medicine in the list

Domperidone
Metoclopramide
Olanzapine
Alizapramide
Chlorpromazine
Prochlorperazine

2- Paracetamol: I have it

3- Sedatives-benzodiazepines:

I will choose to use Valium

4- SN: I found two sources to order it, one from Portugal abroad and one from my country in a chemical lab that sells their products online, so it should be reliable the purity of SN

in the stat method, in the last step it says to use 20 benzo tablets but valium is drops not tablets, will it mean that before I drink the SN liquid I will have to drink the whole bottle of valium? If anyone can help me understand this.

 

[MantisLover420]

Any tips for finding it if I am in the US?

 

[Tarrasque]

I'm going to start looking for SN soon, I have only one doubt - what are the risks of permanent damage if you survive this method? Can it cause brain damage?

 

[Hanaga]

Does anyone know for sure if SN can cause paralysis like monoplegia, paraplegia, quadriplegia etc.?

 

[OutOfThisBody]

Anyone in Ontario, CA able to get SN? I know theres been some controversy about it here but is it still available to buy anywhere?

 

[TangentiallyAlive]

cam someone pm me a source of SN in the united states that will sell to individuals please? I tried buying it from one source but they sent me nitrate :/

 

[opheliaoveragain]

I'm going to start looking for SN soon, I have only one doubt - what are the risks of permanent damage if you survive this method? Can it cause brain damage?

There are threads on here that detail various survivals for various reasons. Easy answer, unless you already have something majorly wrong internally, no, the antidote is fast and accessible at any hospital.

 

[Rosenfort]

I have these drugs to take with SN, in what order do I take them and how?

metoclopramide (10mg)
propranolol (40mg)
cimetidine (200mg)

 

[OverIt1976]

For those in the USA, what did you tell your doctor to be prescribed Metaclopramide? I'm in Utah and I'm not sure how to word my request. Also, if anyone knows, would you be able to get a script through a telehealth program?

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

Has anyone sourced SN within or for import into Australia recently?

Thanks all.

Hey - just saw this & don't know how you've gotten on but know 1 or maybe 2 sources or maybe more.
I received DMC in Australia this year & got it fine.
I won't share source, sorry, but hope this helps as I have firsthand experience.
The second one is B confirmed to me via email that they ship to Australia, but their packaging isn't as discreet & they won't change it.
I don't know if that's important to you or not. I didn't actually order or receive from them because of this, but they were confident of sending to Australia & sounded legit.
And there's labs. And India & China but they sound more like last resorts to me.
I think "most" sources ship to Australia though.
SN becoming a popular CTB method is actually Australia's gift to the world (Go Team Australia & our feral pigs) so you'd think it'd be easier to get…
Good luck.
And if you've already found a source & it wasn't one I listed & you've received it in discreet packaging, I'd love to hear about that please.
Very keen.
I'd feel better with a backup source.
Sorry if I'm too late with response - was just searching this site for other SN sources into Australia for myself…

 

[PhDone]

Hey - just saw this & don't know how you've gotten on but know 1 or maybe 2 sources or maybe more.
I received DMC in Australia this year & got it fine.
I won't share source, sorry, but hope this helps as I have firsthand experience.
The second one is B confirmed to me via email that they ship to Australia, but their packaging isn't as discreet & they won't change it.
I don't know if that's important to you or not. I didn't actually order or receive from them because of this, but they were confident of sending to Australia & sounded legit.
And there's labs. And India & China but they sound more like last resorts to me.
I think "most" sources ship to Australia though.
SN becoming a popular CTB method is actually Australia's gift to the world (Go Team Australia & our feral pigs) so you'd think it'd be easier to get…
Good luck.
And if you've already found a source & it wasn't one I listed & you've received it in discreet packaging, I'd love to hear about that please.
Very keen.
I'd feel better with a backup source.
Sorry if I'm too late with response - was just searching this site for other SN sources into Australia for myself…

Thanks for this. Exploring some options now. There seems like a few but whether what they send is legit?? Is DMC the company you received from?

I'll keep you posted on what turns up successfully once I've received and tested them. A few have said happy to change label.

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

Thanks for this. Exploring some options now. There seems like a few but whether what they send is legit?? Is DMC the company you received from?

I'll keep you posted on what turns up successfully once I've received and tested them. A few have said happy to change label.

DMC sent, it took about 3 weeks with express shipping & did sit as customs in Australia long enough to freak me out but was fine, it was labelled as something else, I've done blood & aquarium tests & both came out legit. They answered all my dumb questions either by email or WhatsApp & were fantastic.
Regarding B & all others, if you get an email address, flick them your questions & they'll answer - B responded within minutes & so did some of the labs. They'll tell you if they'll change label or not & if they've had recent success in passing customs in Australia. I wouldn't mention what you want it for or how you found them - even though they know what it can be used for, it's best not to incriminate them. I destroyed DMC packaging so that L is not implicated.
B sound legit but will not change packaging.
And the same for a lot of the labs.
Good luck if this is what you pursue.
DMC were the only ones I found that lied on label - you mentioned "a few" - any heads-up on who else???
If you find another legit source into Australia - either with discreet / straight out lies on packaging or that will deliver to a PO Box (I don't have one but can get if someone will send to it, B said no), please let me know.
Good luck & thanks

 

[PhDone]

DMC sent, it took about 3 weeks with express shipping & did sit as customs in Australia long enough to freak me out but was fine, it was labelled as something else, I've done blood & aquarium tests & both came out legit. They answered all my dumb questions either by email or WhatsApp & were fantastic.
Regarding B & all others, if you get an email address, flick them your questions & they'll answer - B responded within minutes & so did some of the labs. They'll tell you if they'll change label or not & if they've had recent success in passing customs in Australia. I wouldn't mention what you want it for or how you found them - even though they know what it can be used for, it's best not to incriminate them. I destroyed DMC packaging so that L is not implicated.
B sound legit but will not change packaging.
And the same for a lot of the labs.
Good luck if this is what you pursue.
DMC were the only ones I found that lied on label - you mentioned "a few" - any heads-up on who else???
If you find another legit source into Australia - either with discreet / straight out lies on packaging or that will deliver to a PO Box (I don't have one but can get if someone will send to it, B said no), please let me know.
Good luck & thanks

Great thanks. I had some delivered with changed label from HDC in China. But its testing as both nitrite and nitrate which is odd. They are super fast at replying to emails so seem pretty legit tho There's a website called Made in China (admin please remove if not ok mentioning this) which connects you to all sorts of industries and I put a quote request on there and got heaps. I'm giving 3 a try atm and chose ones that offered to label change. Some had too high minimum orders but many seemed ok. I'll let you know who if/as they come through. Theres several others emailed me so theres some more options. I can DM you if you're interested.

How did yours test, just nitrite and no nitrate? Where did you get test kits from?

Also, did you secure propranolol in Aussie?

 

[Hanaga]

Any sn survival threads where the person was found after at least two hours? I'm having a hard time finding them as the person either quickly calls for an ambulance or found within an hour.

 

[BecomingTired]

This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods.

Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you.

First of all, let's discuss why this method works, and how it kills.

Spoiler: The effects of Sodium Nitrite

Sodium Nitrite, NaNO2, acts as a catalyst in the conversion of the hemoglobin in your blood into methemoglobin (MetHB), a molecule with a much higher affinity with oxygen. This occurs when the ferrous ions in the regular hemoglobin are converted into ferric ones.
Since it's affinity is so high, methemoglobin cannot let the oxygen flow into other tissues that need it, thus depriving them of oxygen even while you're breathing. Death, then, occurs by hypoxia.
Sodium Nitrite poisoning symptoms include nausea, vertigo, vomiting, very heavy headaches and, should you manage to not pass out for too long, seizures.
The PPH claims that, during a monitored suicide with SN, the patient was unconscious at 12 minutes and dead by 35. However, some sources claim that SN poisoning might take as much as 8 hours to kill, probably due to low dosage.
Since methemoglobin creation is a natural process in our bodies, you must be aware that a certain enzyme works to transform it back into hemoglobin again. This is why the recommended dosage has varied on the PPH so much, as the syntetization of these enzymes and their "power" to overcome the formation of MetHB depends purely on your body, thus making a normal, general dose for all who chose this method very hard to determine, unlike N.

As for the physical symptoms your body will experience, not much will really change. Since your blood will mainly be MetHB, it will take on a bluish chocolate brown color, and the tips of your fingers, toes and nose (amongst others) will turn slightly blue from cyanosis.

Now, lets take a look at the "shopping cart".

Spoiler: What is needed for this method?

You'll need the following:

SN: The main compund for this method, Sodium Nitrite is easy enough to find. You're looking for >98% purity Nitrite. This chemical is sold without regulation and can be bought from Amazon, Ebay or any lab supplier in your area. 100 grams cost between 8 and 10€. This chemical is completely legal to own and is used during curation of meats to preserve their color. It's described as "White to yellowish powder/crystals" and it's said to have "slightly salty taste". It is also very soluble in water.
The recommended dose from the PPH is 15 grams, however, this has increased on different issues, from only 5, to 12 and now to 15.
Very important: You're looking for Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate; NaNO2, not NaNO3.
Should you not find it just by looking up Sodium Nitrite, look for: NaNO2, NNaO2 or Filmerine. Make sure you're buying what you want and that it's purity is high enough. For more information on it plus some industrial sellers, check Sodium Nitrite on Pubchem.

Antiemetics: Strong enough antiemetics for this method are not OTC, so you'll need to see your way around this. You're looking for Metoclopramide or any of it's commercial names, like Reglan/Primperan. This antiemetic needs to be a Dopamine blocker for it to work.
Antiemetics aren't 100% necessary for this method, however; just like with N, you wont accomplish anything if you end up puking it all out, which is likely. This will also most likely be the bulk of the money you'll use during this method.

Acid Regulators: Another thing recommended in the PPH is raising your stomach's pH to make the SN more effective. This can be accomplished with drugs like Tagamet (The one recommended on the PPH, 800mg, which is to my knowledge OTC) or even bicarbonate, though not as effective.

Spoiler: A few extra comments

I recently got asked a few things regarding SN. First of all, you must know that the effects of this poisoning are completely reversible. It is very unlikely that you will have any permanent damage should you be "saved" during your attempt. Secondly, since this method relies on hypoxia, cardiovascular problems will reduce the amount of MetHB in blood needed to actually kill you. This, however, shouldnt really be a problem since it is sold starting from 100 grams, far more than the amount needed.

Lastly, there have been cases of people recovering from SN poisoning without any "side effects", but even if the ambulance is called soon enough, it is not certain that you will survive.

Should you have any question you can't find the answer of, please comment it and maybe you'll find someone on this community who knows.
Also, should you have any more information you'd like to share, please post it and tag me so I can edit this post and get it included. Thank you.

I was thinking of using sleeping pills before SN but now that I'm looking through failed attempts, for some reason even when they were able to take the SN and faint, they would fail anyways. What exactly is cancelling the effects of it?

 

[Nithin Yalamanchi]

Hi,
Any suggestions for where to find SN in India?

 

[MissingThyme]

Is SN stable in higher heat as long as it's not open? I might have left my stash in a hot car but it was still sealed, would a hot summer have degraded it to the point where I should discard it or should it still be good?