Discussion Sn vs n method

[Jackblade]

I just discovered the SN methode which looks VERY interesting

This may be one of the best and easy suicide methode so far (with N?).

To compare SN at N:
- SN is a way more easy to find (because it's legal).
- SN is A LOT CHEAPER than N!
- the death seems peacefull just as N if the dosages have been respected (15 grams according to the PPH).

For me, SN > N.

Let's talk about that. I want to know your opinion.


PS: For the guests:
- SN = Sodium Nitrite
- N = Nembutal

 

[Tiburcio]

Nitrite is WAY cheaper and easy to obtain. And unlike the Nembutal shit, you will ever receive it.

Nitrite doesn't taste SO bad than the other liquid of the devil.

Who cares about the pain?? My life hurts more than any headache!!!

 

[Jackblade]

Nitrite is WAY cheaper and easy to obtain. And unlike the Nembutal shit, you will ever receive it.

Who cares about the pain?? My life hurts more than any headache!!!

10000% agreed

 

[Rex]

Nitrite is WAY cheaper and easy to obtain. And unlike the Nembutal shit, you will ever receive it.

Nitrite doesn't taste SO bad than the other liquid of the devil.

Who cares about the pain?? My life hurts more than any headache!!!

What pain is associated with SN method? I've not looked into this method much, you say "any" headache... I assume this pain associated around the brain would be more than such a headache? I'm confused by this.

Just curious about SN now I've seen it mentioned so much. Obviously my first curiosity about it is pain, which you mention...

 

[creatureoflight]

What pain is associated with SN method? I've not looked into this method much, you say "any" headache... I assume this pain associated around the brain would be more than such a headache? I'm confused by this.

Just curious about SN now I've seen it mentioned so much. Obviously my first curiosity about it is pain, which you mention...

I still can't understand how reliable SN seems to be and how long death is supposed to take.

 

[Tiburcio]

What pain is associated with SN method? I've not looked into this method much, you say "any" headache... I assume this pain associated around the brain would be more than such a headache? I'm confused by this.

Just curious about SN now I've seen it mentioned so much. Obviously my first curiosity about it is pain, which you mention...

It's said after few minutes you feel strong headaches.

 

[Rex]

It's said after few minutes you feel strong headaches.

I see, good to know but that's very vague. I mean some headaches make your head feel like it's about to explode, wouldn't want to go out feeling that personally.

N just tastes really bad, but you just fall asleep peacefully. So I'm guessing that is the major upside to SN vs N - which is pain and thus peacefulness.

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

Problem is in the ppeh they are going on a trial of only 1 person, and tell you nothing about that person ie: m/f, weight, health problem,age ect. I mean they are making it look as good as N. But no video.

 

[ge0rge]

I'm no doctor, but N's supposed to cut off the CNS and lead to death by respiratory arrest, as opposed to SN, which leads to methemoglobinemia, which is a more aggressive way of dying?

like I'm not getting the part where SN is supposed to knock you out before you die a hypoxic death.

 

[Tiburcio]

I see, good to know but that's very vague. I mean some headaches make your head feel like it's about to explode, wouldn't want to go out feeling that personally.

N just tastes really bad, but you just fall asleep peacefully. So I'm guessing that is the major upside to SN vs N - which is pain and thus peacefulness.

I personally never experienced the nitrite pain but it diesn't seem so strong, or at least I guess I could calm it with the right pills...

I also prefer pain to bad taste, really, if Nembutal tastes so bad I won't be able to drink two bottles, nitrite is just very salty.
And I know how feels the worst of headaches when you feel your head exploding, I could endure it until sn does hus work.

 

[ge0rge]

if we compare a clean system shutdown caused by N, when you're already asleep when the body begins to die, as opposed to SN, where the blood itself becomes incapable of transporting oxygen while you're still awake and conscious, leading to tissue hypoxia, we can see which is the least painful

 

[DF90]

What pain is associated with SN method? I've not looked into this method much, you say "any" headache... I assume this pain associated around the brain would be more than such a headache? I'm confused by this.

Just curious about SN now I've seen it mentioned so much. Obviously my first curiosity about it is pain, which you mention...

Cramping, nausea, headache, seizures. Check out Azur's SN megathread if you wanna read more about it. :)

 

[Jackblade]

if we compare a clean system shutdown caused by N, when you're already asleep when the body begins to die, as opposed to SN, where the blood itself becomes incapable of transporting oxygen while you're still awake and conscious, leading to tissue hypoxia, we can see which is the least painful

SN makes the blood incapable of transporting oxygen so you cant stay awake. If you dont have oxygen in your body, you WILL pass out whatever happens. The "pain" can happened between the moment were you drank the SN and the moment were you passed out but it dont takes too long generaly, like few minutes

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

If you look at the side effects, of n or sn you would never want to touch the stuff, but with a lethal dose you are bypassing most side effects according to neitche.

 

[Rex]

Cramping, nausea, headache, seizures. Check out Azur's SN megathread if you wanna read more about it. :)

Those are enough reasons plus the above to know this ain't the method I'd ever do personally.

 

[ge0rge]

SN makes the blood incapable of transporting oxygen so you cant stay awake. If you dont have oxygen in your body, you WILL pass out whatever happens. The "pain" can happened between the moment were you drank the SN and the moment were you passed out but it dont takes too long generaly, like few minutes

That's what I was saying. The order of events matters. N knocks you out before the pain begins (does the body still register pain if the nervous system is not functioning?), whereas with SN, even if it only takes a few minutes, the pain might be excruciating.

 

[OfficerK]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be possible that SN could have the same effect as being strangled? When strangled, the lack of oxygen generally puts you out in a few seconds, but death doesn't occur unless you keep restricting the supply of oxygen for a longer time. I'm imagining that SN could work in a similar way, as the conversion of hemoglobin to methemoglobin is a gradual process.

 

[Jackblade]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be possible that SN could have the same effect as being strangled? When strangled, the lack of oxygen generally puts you out in a few seconds, but death doesn't occur unless you keep restricting the supply of oxygen for a longer time. I'm imagining that SN could work in a similar way, as the conversion of hemoglobin to methemoglobin is a gradual process.

I have no idea :/

 

[Jackblade]

That's what I was saying. The order of events matters. N knocks you out before the pain begins (does the body still register pain if the nervous system is not functioning?), whereas with SN, even if it only takes a few minutes, the pain might be excruciating.

You're right, but what kind of pain can we face ? I'm ok with few headaches though..

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

http://www.finalexit.org/ergo_nutech_new_technology.html

Here is a little bit on sn, although the article pingpongs calling nitrite and nitrate, makes Philip neitche seem incompetent. I mean this is his business, and he doesn't know the difference?

 

[lv-gras]

think comparing sn to cyanide would make more sense?

 

[anna]

I do not think it's worse than a severe migraine or a cluster headache, so I'm used to that pain
I'm more worried about the other symptoms
although it is assumed that with primperan and tagamet nothing of that should happen
and when I read that some people failed with nitrite and ended up even worse than they were, it causes me a lot of anxiety and insecurity
Anyway, I think Nembutal is more effective and peaceful
if it had been in powder it would be fantastic for many of us

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

I have heard neitche refer to sodium azide as cyanide's cousin, but not sn.

 

[Jackblade]

Look at this, this is very interesting

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

The cost of nembutal obtained illicitly, which by the way you need 3 bottles if over 176lbs. For some expecially in poor countries is going to force people into cheaper alternatives. I don't like the way nietche is stringing along the research on sn he has had 4 years, I think it's a method that alot of people are interested in and he's just selling paper.

 

[Jackblade]

The cost of nembutal obtained illicitly, which by the way you need 3 bottles if over 176lbs. For some expecially in poor countries is going to force people into cheaper alternatives. I don't like the way nietche is stringing along the research on sn he has had 4 years, I think it's a method that alot of people are interested in and he's just selling paper.

Nembutal is a business

 

[Tiburcio]

I do not think it's worse than a severe migraine or a cluster headache, so I'm used to that pain

I don't even think is worse than a strong hangover. But anyway, it's an hour "only".

I'm more worried about the other symptoms
although it is assumed that with primperan and tagamet nothing of that should happen
and when I read that some people failed with nitrite and ended up even worse than they were, it causes me a lot of anxiety and insecurity

I saw the symptoms are highly reversible, permanent dañage would be very rare.








I still won't taste the Nembutal, I prefer the seizures and headache than that taste
And I'm a bit greedy.

 

[Done]

I do not think it's worse than a severe migraine or a cluster headache, so I'm used to that pain
I'm more worried about the other symptoms
although it is assumed that with primperan and tagamet nothing of that should happen
and when I read that some people failed with nitrite and ended up even worse than they were, it causes me a lot of anxiety and insecurity
Anyway, I think Nembutal is more effective and peaceful
if it had been in powder it would be fantastic for many of us

How did some people end up worse than they were? I thought sn had no lasting effects if you happen to survive it..?

 

[Jackblade]

How did some people end up worse than they were? I thought sn had no lasting effects if you happen to survive it..?

Maybe they took Sidum cyanide/azide not nitrite