I struggle a lot with SI. Fasting for 8 hours is just going to make so nervous. My appetite is really low, can I just take SN without fasting? I don't have access to guns and I would prefer something that doesn't require me to think of my imminent death for 10 hours.
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TheHolySword
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- Nov 22, 2024
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You can try but it certainly isn't recommended. Fasting is probably one of the most important aspects of the protocol. SN is, of course, the only true requirement but that doesn't mean it's guaranteed. Fasting does two things: it will make sure there is nothing to digest that will get in the way of absorption and it will decrease the likelihood of quicker vomiting which will in turn increase chances of absorption. I understand how terrible SI is, and a longer method like this may feel like hell as a result. I'm sure there are cases of success without fasting but I wouldn't live hard and fast by it. Find things that will occupy the time. 8 hour may seem like a lot now but it can go by a lot quicker than you think.
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opheliaoveragain
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The eight-hour fast basically has two components:
It takes around two hours for food to pass through your stomach. If you fast for two hours, you should have an empty stomach. This probably decreases the risk of vomiting.
It then typically takes another six hours for food to pass through your small intestine, although this is much more variable. The further your last meal has moved along your small intestine, the more of its surface your drink of SN solution will have access to, and the faster the SN is likely to be absorbed (and the more likely it is that it will all be absorbed).
Personally, I think a full eight-hour fast is serious overkill. When I hopefully kill myself on Thursday, I will not fast for eight hours, because I know I'll get hungry to the point of discomfort (one of the drugs I'm on makes me eat almost compulsively). Instead, I will fast for at least four hours, hopefully around six. I think this is a level of discipline I can manage. I'll make it easier for myself by killing myself in a cheap hotel, with minimal access to food, which will require much less discipline than being at home. A two-hour fast is all but essential, and time in addition to that will increase my chances of success, but with diminishing returns, I think. Going from two hours to three is more valuable than going from three to four, which is more valuable than going from four to five, or five to six, and so on.
It takes around two hours for food to pass through your stomach. If you fast for two hours, you should have an empty stomach. This probably decreases the risk of vomiting.
It then typically takes another six hours for food to pass through your small intestine, although this is much more variable. The further your last meal has moved along your small intestine, the more of its surface your drink of SN solution will have access to, and the faster the SN is likely to be absorbed (and the more likely it is that it will all be absorbed).
Personally, I think a full eight-hour fast is serious overkill. When I hopefully kill myself on Thursday, I will not fast for eight hours, because I know I'll get hungry to the point of discomfort (one of the drugs I'm on makes me eat almost compulsively). Instead, I will fast for at least four hours, hopefully around six. I think this is a level of discipline I can manage. I'll make it easier for myself by killing myself in a cheap hotel, with minimal access to food, which will require much less discipline than being at home. A two-hour fast is all but essential, and time in addition to that will increase my chances of success, but with diminishing returns, I think. Going from two hours to three is more valuable than going from three to four, which is more valuable than going from four to five, or five to six, and so on.
I would suggest eating your last meal at something like 7-8pm, if you go to sleep at 11pm and wake up at 7 am, you could do another 1-2 hours with no eating and maybe then take it, I don't know.
I will do 4 hours, a full night of sleep and then 14 hours personally but I do have issues with digestion.
It depends on the person, for me it takes 12 hours + depending on the food, some take 4-6 hours just to get it in the intestines, a very big fast and especially followed by instantly drinking water usually results in very quick digestion since water doesn't need to be broken down the same way food needs to.
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