There are indeed other barbs. Most are deathly toxic, but almost all are considered unobtainable. Examples are secobarbital, amobarbital, Tuinal, vinylbital, and butabarbital. Nembutal is still out there, but very, very hard to get.
I think they stopped making Tuinal a long time ago, like more than 20 years ago. They also stopped making secobarbital a few years ago, I think it was in 2012 or 2013 when they stopped producing it. Amobarbital is still used in hospitals, and butabarbital is still sometimes found in random countries, usually eastern European countries. Vinylbital is also found randomly but production stopped a long time ago in any western country, in China they had quite a run from it from 2011 to say 2013/14, I was able to benefit from that little run, but
ended up losing it because I accidentally threw a box away with stuff I was going to throw out (rubbish mostly, old stuff, computer junk, etc).
Ended up in landfill. Now that stuff WAS lethal. I called this short run a
"barbiturate bonanza". Which indeed it was. There was plenty of different barbs on offer too, but the one I really wanted was Nembutal, but for some reason couldn't get it. The second option was this stuff, but I never had to do anything, just got someone from the local city to get it in, even though I paid a princely sum for it.
At first I thought the stuff was just some weak stuff like butalbital, but it turned out to be the most potent substance I'd ever encountered...yes,
even more powerful than Nembutal (which I'd tried in the past), believe me, a slight O/D had me vomiting and dizzy as hell. I
never got that from Nembutal. At some point I wondered what I'd actually had, but it tested + for barbs. It hit very quickly, like 300mg vinylbital started to hit in 5-10 minutes. I think it
really started to hit on in around 15 mins but I could feel the effects well before then. I'd say I started feeling it somewhere between 5 and 10 mins. It felt much like Nembutal, but with a
more jagged edge and harder hitting, more nauseating, and definitely better at its main job - sleep inducing. I tried a LOT of different drugs in my time, including heroin and methadone, and even oxymorphone (called Opana). I just wanted to experiment like the suicidal nutter I was, not caring whether I took my last breath in my experimental escapades. Hell, I even got to try Seconal, which was considered so hard to get, that was in 2002/2003. It was very nice, felt like alcohol but even smoother, very little in the way of hangover if I only took 200mg, and didn't make me nauseous. Up until 2014 I completely dismissed vinylbital and assuming it was just some wierd butalbital knock-off because of the name. Because it didn't have "-barbital" as a suffix, I dismissed it, not realising how damned potent it was. But then I later found out that it was indeed called vinylbarbital/vinylbarbitone in some contexts, it's just that vinylbital was the common adopted generic name. When you look at the molecule, it is almost EXACTLY like Nembutal, save for one double carbon bond.
Basically, vinylbital is a dirty version of Seconal from my point of view. Seconal being a cleaner experience and vinylbital having quite a sharp edge. Not to be fucked with, basically. But then again, the same rule should be applied to ANY barb, with no distinction between any of them. Be careful because these things are SUPER dangerous to your breathing when more than the therapeutic limit is taken. For the quick barbiturates, the limit is about 300-400mg for someone with low or absent tolerance, and God FORBID you ever touch alcohol when taking them.
