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[Deleted member 1465]

I'm not the one accusing her of lying.
I'm simply stating that those accusing her of lying should instead request that some facts be established, which would quickly end the speculation.
Otherwise people should stop making accusations that they seem to have no desire or confidence to back up.....

@GoodPersonEffed

Why do you care so much what I or others think about Jean?

I experience a sense of injustice when I see someone I regard as honest being accused of being dishonest, so I feel the need to speak out on the injustice I see. That would be obvious for someone of your intelligence. I feel sure you would have experienced something similar yourself....

Why do you keep making the same points over and over when the people you ostensibly want to convince have made it clear they are not willing to be convinced of your point of view?

A debate is something where each party puts forth their views.
Otherwise you're suggesting I should say nothing when somebody disagrees with my view.
Is that how you conduct your own affairs ? If not then why suggest that's how I should conduct mine ?
I'd like someone to refute my points by either providing some evidence, or taking action that allows evidence to be presented.
Quite a reasonable thing to wish for IMO...

Why do you keep the issue alive rather than accept there are irresolvable differences of opinion? Those you previously tagged have either stopped talking about it on threads, or only respond when you refuse to let it go. Granted, I don't follow this issue to see if it's active in other threads, but from what I can tell here, no one is continuing to speak out against Jean except in response to your continuous defense of her.

Up to now the discussion has been one sided. Many people have implied she's lying. I haven't seen anyone present a reasonable counter, so I wished to do so.

If people cease making posts implying she's lying, then I'm happy to cease making counter posts.
It wasn't my intention to post on the matter today until I saw the post made by @lmroch

Her detractors and doubters, myself included, have each abundantly demonstrated that none of us is going to agree with you, so why are you continuing to try to convice us to agree we are wrong, especially with points that we didn't accept the first several times you made them?

The key point is that no one who has accused her of lying appears to have the courage to put the matter to the test.
Her accusers could easily request that some facts be established, which would quickly end the speculation.

Why are you so emotionally invested in my personal opinion of Jean and that of others? Are you an alter account for Jean? Are you her new romantic partner? Is there really a behind-the-scenes cult? Otherwise, I don't get it. As far as I can tell, this issue would already have a line through it if you didn't keep it alive.

As stated above, I get a sense of injustice when I see someone I regard as honest being accused of being dishonest, and I feel the need to speak out regarding the injustice. I'm sure you would have experienced something similar yourself (and if you have, then why would you ask that question ?)

As also stated, I feel the discussion so far has been one sided, and haven't yet seen a reasonable counter presented.

Should I accuse you of being an alter account for nitrogen then ?
No, I'm not her romantic partner (and I find that suggestion a bit silly).
I think of a cult as something where people are manipulated or coerced, etc. I'm not aware of anything like that taking place, so no, I do not believe there is any cult. The only thing I've seen her do is be supportive of people. I've also seen her try to persuade people to not CTB on many ocassions. I find much of what has been said or implied to paint a very false picture, and I feel very uncomfortable just ignoring such things.

Okay I'm getting tired of this. Take the debate to another thread. Start a fresh one. If it risks the ire of the mods then so be it. It's not fair to risk this thread being closed.

Please stop discussing this here.

 

[jgm63]

Okay I'm getting tired of this. Take the debate to another thread. Start a fresh one. If it risks the ire of the mods then so be it. It's not fair to risk this thread being closed.

Please stop discussing this here.

I had no intention of continuing the discussion today, however other members made posts continuing the matter.
And @GoodPersonEffed posted a question to me.
I notice you didn't reply to her to tell her to stop posting, so there seems to be some bias here....

 

[Deleted member 1465]

I had no intention of continuing the discussion today, however other members made posts continuing the matter.
And @GoodPersonEffed posted a question to me.
I notice you didn't reply to her to tell her to stop posting, so there seems to be some bias here....

No bias. I just happened to reply to you. Same request to everyone. Please either stop this or discuss it in its own thread, where it can be debated or ignored.

 

[faust]

Okay I'm getting tired of this. Take the debate to another thread. Start a fresh one. If it risks the ire of the mods then so be it. It's not fair to risk this thread being closed.

Please stop discussing this here.

Wisdom from faust: if one thread is deleted, another can be created.

 

[Brick In The Wall]

 

[HopeDiesLast]

Rectal potato suicide. Now that is creative!

I wonder if it would increase your odds if you soaked it in rum for 24 hours prior to insertion?

 

[one4all]

@GoodPersonEffed @lmroch @HopeDiesLast

+ I offer one4all as your humble (drunk) servant

Wait?!?!?! Don't i have a slurring say in this?

 

[Brick In The Wall]

I feel like there needs to be a drinking game and or competition between the resident alcoholics.

 

[one4all]

I feel like there needs to be a drinking game and or competition between the resident alcoholics.

Alcoholics? Hmmm i never went to a meeting nor admitted it. Do i still qualify?

 

[Deleted member 1465]

I feel like there needs to be a drinking game and or competition between the resident alcoholics.

Hey, I'm reformed. On the wagon four years plus. My body actually won't tolerate it unfortunately. Id so love a nice foamy pint of Tribute.

 

[faust]

Any ideas how to find normal news, not about covid 19?

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I'm not the one accusing her of lying.
I'm simply stating that those accusing her of lying should instead request that some facts be established, which would quickly end the speculation.
Otherwise people should stop making accusations that they seem to have no desire or confidence to back up.....

@GoodPersonEffed

Why do you care so much what I or others think about Jean?

I experience a sense of injustice when I see someone I regard as honest being accused of being dishonest, so I feel the need to speak out on the injustice I see. That would be obvious for someone of your intelligence. I feel sure you would have experienced something similar yourself....

Why do you keep making the same points over and over when the people you ostensibly want to convince have made it clear they are not willing to be convinced of your point of view?

A debate is something where each party puts forth their views.
Otherwise you're suggesting I should say nothing when somebody disagrees with my view.
Is that how you conduct your own affairs ? If not then why suggest that's how I should conduct mine ?
I'd like someone to refute my points by either providing some evidence, or taking action that allows evidence to be presented.
Quite a reasonable thing to wish for IMO...

Why do you keep the issue alive rather than accept there are irresolvable differences of opinion? Those you previously tagged have either stopped talking about it on threads, or only respond when you refuse to let it go. Granted, I don't follow this issue to see if it's active in other threads, but from what I can tell here, no one is continuing to speak out against Jean except in response to your continuous defense of her.

Up to now the discussion has been one sided. Many people have implied she's lying. I haven't seen anyone present a reasonable counter, so I wished to do so.

If people cease making posts implying she's lying, then I'm happy to cease making counter posts.
It wasn't my intention to post on the matter today until I saw the post made by @lmroch

Her detractors and doubters, myself included, have each abundantly demonstrated that none of us is going to agree with you, so why are you continuing to try to convice us to agree we are wrong, especially with points that we didn't accept the first several times you made them?

The key point is that no one who has accused her of lying appears to have the courage to put the matter to the test.
Her accusers could easily request that some facts be established, which would quickly end the speculation.

Why are you so emotionally invested in my personal opinion of Jean and that of others? Are you an alter account for Jean? Are you her new romantic partner? Is there really a behind-the-scenes cult? Otherwise, I don't get it. As far as I can tell, this issue would already have a line through it if you didn't keep it alive.

As stated above, I get a sense of injustice when I see someone I regard as honest being accused of being dishonest, and I feel the need to speak out regarding the injustice. I'm sure you would have experienced something similar yourself (and if you have, then why would you ask that question ?)

As also stated, I feel the discussion so far has been one sided, and haven't yet seen a reasonable counter presented.

Should I accuse you of being an alter account for nitrogen then ?
No, I'm not her romantic partner (and I find that suggestion a bit silly).
I think of a cult as something where people are manipulated or coerced, etc. I'm not aware of anything like that taking place, so no, I do not believe there is any cult. The only thing I've seen her do is be supportive of people. I've also seen her try to persuade people to not CTB on many ocassions. I find much of what has been said or implied to paint a very false picture, and I feel very uncomfortable just ignoring such things.

If you're uncomfortable ignoring my publicly stated personal opinions, I will leave you to your discomfort. Moving forward, I am quite comfortable ignoring you, and find it necessary as we have different communication styles, perspectives, and motivations, all of which have repeatedly proven to me to be incompatible. Engaging with you is a consistently unedifying experience for me, so it's best for me to permanently disengage. I sincerely wish you well.

 

[Brick In The Wall]

Alcoholics? Hmmm i never went to a meeting nor admitted it. Do i still qualify?

Of course you do man! I don't have a drinking problem either, in fact I rather enjoy it!

Hey, I'm reformed. On the wagon four years plus. My body actually won't tolerate it unfortunately. Id so love a nice foamy pint of Tribute.

I'm proud of you brother! It's not an easy thing what with us drunkards all over the place.

 

[RM5998]

A fellow indie game dev? I understand your pain on sprite sheets!

I've been trying to draw a resting flame for the past hour or so. It never looks right. I have to draw at least 8 frames of animation for this, I think. I haven't even gotten the first to the point where it looks reasonably good.
At least the first set of basic tiles are done. At the rate I'm going, this will take a million years.

 

[Deleted member 1465]

Any ideas how to find normal news, not about covid 19?

It's in the 'in other news' section at the end of each bulletin...

'And finally, a bill has been passed to allow security agencies access to people's private emails. Shush, don't tell anyone.'

 

[one4all]

@Brick In The Wall I think you nailed it with the word "Drunkards". This thread is not in the recovery forum.

 

[Brick In The Wall]

I've been trying to draw a resting flame for the past hour or so. It never looks right. I have to draw at least 8 frames of animation for this, I think. I haven't even gotten the first to the point where it looks reasonably good.
At least the first set of basic tiles are done. At the rate I'm going, this will take a million years.

There are certain tools and plugins that can expedite some of the work. Fire is generally a tough one to do properly as well.

 

[faust]

It's in the 'in other news' section at the end of each bulletin...

'And finally, a bill has been passed to allow security agencies access to people's private emails. Shush, don't tell anyone.'

Okay, government, if you want to read my emails, enjoy scrolling through thousands of emails of spam

 

[one4all]

It's in the 'in other news' section at the end of each bulletin...

'And finally, a bill has been passed to allow security agencies access to people's private emails. Shush, don't tell anyone.'

Wait.. my emails were private before?

 

[Deleted member 1465]

I don't really care who reads my emails tbh. It's not like I'm building a bomb or leading a Satanic death cult.

 

[Brick In The Wall]

Wait.. my emails were private before?

Not even your privates are private these days

 

[faust]

Wait.. my emails were private before?

Yes, now instead of Sodium Nitrite you will have to ask for a Skilled Nurse ;)

 

[one4all]

Not even your privates are private these days

Ummmm what is email btw?

Yes, now instead of Sodium Nitrite you will have to ask for a Skilled Nurse ;)

If they have a pension plan.. i will be asking for Skilled Nurses.

 

[Deleted member 1465]

Not even your privates are private these days

 

[Soulless_Angel]

I am so fucking confused

 

[Deleted member 1465]

I am so fucking confused

If you aren't confused by life then you aren't doing it properly

 

[one4all]

I am so fucking confused

Why? Surely it can't be this messed up thread LOL

 

[RM5998]

There are certain tools and plugins that can expedite some of the work. Fire is generally a tough one to do properly as well.

I've spent too long working with Photoshop to switch to something else now.
At least I've figured out how to use shaders properly in Godot. That led to some decent looking shadows for me. Time to learn particle effects now.

 

[jgm63]

If you're uncomfortable ignoring my publicly stated personal opinions, I will leave you to your discomfort. Moving forward, I am quite comfortable ignoring you, and find it necessary as we have different communication styles, perspectives, and motivations, all of which have repeatedly proven to me to be incompatible. Engaging with you is a consistently unedifying experience for me, so it's best for me to permanently disengage. I sincerely wish you well.

Strange, nobody chastised you for continuing the discussion....
Well you did post some questions to me, so I replied....
Yes, having to face the fact that you have smeared someone's reputation without taking any action to have the facts checked is no doubt unedifying for you...

 

[Soulless_Angel]

If you aren't confused by life then you aren't doing it properly

qhhhhhhhh noooooo