"the world doesn't owe you anything"

[Dani Paradox]

Probably one of the saddest things I realized is that just because you're having a bad day, doesn't mean you'll have a good day soon. I just don't understand why if the universe doesn't owe me anything why I owe it my life and 70+ years of suffering.

Well, you can either tell yourself "the world doesn't owe me anything"...…...or you can tell yourself "the world owes me everything." Makes a pretty big difference.

 

[Aity4883]

Well, you can either tell yourself "the world doesn't owe me anything"...…...or you can tell yourself "the world owes me everything." Makes a pretty big difference.

One makes you a humble person who sees the reality of the situation and gives you a chance at peace.

The other make you an entitled prick who is bound to be only dissapointed and unfullfilled.




Been both at some point.

 

[Dani Paradox]

One makes you a humble person who sees the reality of the situation and gives you a chance at peace.

The other make you an entitled prick who is bound to be only dissapointed and unfullfilled.




Been both at some point.

Nah, lol. You get what you set yourself up for. The reality of the situation? The reality of the situation is that I will get what I want. And I will win. And I do. Law of attraction. If you tell yourself "the world doesn't owe me anything" then you get nothing. Other than the disappointment that you are literally putting into your own head. Pitiful.

 

[Aity4883]

Nah, lol. You get what you set yourself up for. The reality of the situation? The reality of the situation is that I will get what I want. And I will win. And I do. Law of attraction. If you tell yourself "the world doesn't owe me anything" then you get nothing. Other than the disappointment that you are literally putting into your own head. Pitiful.

Oh fuck. Here we go again..

 

[Dani Paradox]

Oh fuck. Here we go again..

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[Aity4883]

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Sorry. Can't talk about this any longer.

The flying spaghetti monster says it's time to feed the unicorn. I gtg.

 

[Dani Paradox]

Sorry. Can't talk about this any longer.

The flying spaghetti monster says it's time to feed the unicorn. I gtg.

Lol? I was already finished. I don't know what was up with the whole "here we go again." I was done. You're the one who felt the need to respond again and now you're throwing me sarcasm with flying spaghetti monsters and unicorns. Man, some people on here, I really don't know. Toodles.

 

[Dani Paradox]

I am calm. Clearly, you are not. I think maybe you should quit all the projections and take a look in the mirror.

 

[sadsoul]

Listen. I and everyone here deserves to be happy. Deserves doesn't mean entitled. You may feel that you don't deserve to be happy, and that's fine. But I feel that everyone deserves to be happy. Everyone who is posting here has suffered immensely, and I don't think that is fair. Life may be completely unfair, chaotic, and unstable, but that doesn't mean that people don't deserve to be happy.

You might not feel like you deserve it, but everyone deserves to be happy. Especially everyone here.

This, a million times.

 

[Schopenhauer]

Nah, lol. You get what you set yourself up for. The reality of the situation? The reality of the situation is that I will get what I want. And I will win. And I do. Law of attraction. If you tell yourself "the world doesn't owe me anything" then you get nothing. Other than the disappointment that you are literally putting into your own head. Pitiful.

Sorry but no. You can't win the lottery by having positive thoughts. This is just BS. And then you can blame people for their negative outcomes: "he just didn't have a positive attitude". I hate this kind of thinking.

 

[okyeah]

I always thought it was ironic that being a manly man meant that you accept your fate as a cog in a machine and keep living even if you hate your life.

I think it's manlier to fucking kill myself rather than bend over and take the constant humiliation that I get from other people and life.

 

[Dani Paradox]

Sorry but no. You can't win the lottery by having positive thoughts. This is just BS. And then you can blame people for their negative outcomes: "he just didn't have a positive attitude". I hate this kind of thinking.

You're twisting my words around. People on here love to twist my words around. They don't understand what I am saying. Whatever. Only I know what it's like inside my head.

Whatever you tell yourself with your thoughts, you are programming your mind, and it shows in your attitude when you project your mind out to the world. This reflection of yourself creates an energetic response when you interact with others, and completely effects the way they respond to you.

It has absolutely nothing to do with winning the lottery.

 

[TAW122]

Yeah this is one of the typical pro-lifer retorts when they get cornered with nothing better to say or when they don't want to confront the truth or admit that life sucks. It's just a deflection from the premise of their point. There are many more quotes that are just as bad too.

But the reverse is also true. I don't owe the world anything.

Yes, this is a good direct counter-rebuttal to their statement.

 

[Iwant2sleepforever]

My favorite rapper said "you can't rebel against the universe cause it's gonna pull you where it wants no matter how much it hurts" The thread title reminded me of that.

 

[Going Home]

Yep. I hate the cliche 'You owe society'. Like wtf what do I owe? The world is a slaughterhouse that I never asked to be apart of. But yet here we are having bad shit happen to us constantly and everybody acts like you must take it like a man and deal with it. The world/society only wants you to suffer, anything that would benefit your life in the pursuit of happiness is thwarted and tossed out like shit. 'Because fuck you that's why'.

The same type of people who say 'the world doesn't owe you anything' are the same type that say 'stop feeling sorry for yourself' (Whatever that means). While suffering is part of life, it shouldn't comprise the entirety or majority of our existence. We deserve to be happy.

Given that life is unfair, chaotic, and none of us choose to born into this. Often times people who like to tell us negative things like that are not the type looking for a solution to the problems the world is facing. They just don't care and they truly only think for themselves. Pay them no heed. Don't listen to them. You have a place in this world, and the world itself doesn't 'owe you nothing.' But as a person, the world owes you 'Respect, decency, and hope.' Because if you're posting here, you've endured enough, and deserve those three basic things.

Yes we deserve to be happy and DON'T listen to them. Please completely dismiss that bullshit.

 

[Pointlesslife]

The same type of people who say 'the world doesn't owe you anything' are the same type that say 'stop feeling sorry for yourself' (Whatever that means). While suffering is part of life, it shouldn't comprise the entirety or majority of our existence. We deserve to be happy.

Given that life is unfair, chaotic, and none of us choose to born into this. Often times people who like to tell us negative things like that are not the type looking for a solution to the problems the world is facing. They just don't care and they truly only think for themselves. Pay them no heed. Don't listen to them. You have a place in this world, and the world itself doesn't 'owe you nothing.' But as a person, the world owes you 'Respect, decency, and hope.' Because if you're posting here, you've endured enough, and deserve those three basic things.

I agree that everyone deserves to live a decent life.

 

[weedoge]

But the reverse is also true. I don't owe the world anything.

Came here just to say this. Honestly I only took this mindset recently but it's a little bit liberating. Knowing that I can let go of guilt that people like my family will put on me for living selfishly. Knowing that I gotta do what I gotta do and that's okay.

 

[Couchking]

I agree that everyone deserves to live a decent life.

Deserves? Why? Who says so, you? You are in no position to make such statements. You have no power.

The average person is a murdering, abusing, deceiving, manipulating, psychopathic demon.

Go ahead and disagree.

The world is how it is because of "everybody".

So how can they deserve good things?
Does killing and abusing make you deserve good things?

Maybe so. In that case. I was wrong apparently :)

You all deserve good things :)

 

[weedoge]

Deserves? Why? Who says so, you? You are in no position to make such statements. You have no power.

The average person is a murdering, abusing, deceiving, manipulating, psychopathic demon.

Go ahead and disagree.

The world is how it is because of "everybody".

So how can they deserve good things?
Does killing and abusing make you deserve good things?

Maybe so. In that case. I was wrong apparently :)

You all deserve good things :)

Sorry but what? I don't think the average person is all those things you described. Yes there are a sickening number of people like that in the world but, and I guess this could get dragged on really long but, I really think that most people. The average person who might appear selfish and self centered, they're really just trying to make their way and keep their head above water in this shitty world, everyone has to deal with it the same. Some of us aren't as good at dealing with it but I realised over time that the majority of people aren't necessarily cunts just because they don't understand me. It's the few individuals in power that keep the sheepish mindset and therefore don't use their power to do any good. and the literal murderers, abusers, etc. These are the bad people.

It's a pretty complex issue but yeah, most people do deserve good lives. I've done deplorable awful things but on the other hand I did them as a result of the deplorable things that were done to me. So do I or do I not deserve to be comfortable? Do I deserve to be punished? It's something I mull over most days and I don't see what good perpetual misery in the world could ever do.

 

[Couchking]

Sorry but what? I don't think the average person is all those things you described. Yes there are a sickening number of people like that in the world but, and I guess this could get dragged on really long but, I really think that most people. The average person who might appear selfish and self centered, they're really just trying to make their way and keep their head above water in this shitty world, everyone has to deal with it the same. Some of us aren't as good at dealing with it but I realised over time that the majority of people aren't necessarily cunts just because they don't understand me. It's the few individuals in power that keep the sheepish mindset and therefore don't use their power to do any good. and the literal murderers, abusers, etc. These are the bad people.

It's a pretty complex issue but yeah, most people do deserve good lives. I've done deplorable awful things but on the other hand I did them as a result of the deplorable things that were done to me. So do I or do I not deserve to be comfortable? Do I deserve to be punished? It's something I mull over most days and I don't see what good perpetual misery in the world could ever do.

You don't eat meat? That's murder.

You don't wear clothes? That's abusing some poor person in the world.

You don't contribute to the system and society? That's consciously helping the system we live in.

You never lie?

You never abuse others?
Especially children. Or people weaker then you.



Is that a good person in your eyes?

 

[Couchking]

Good people don't keep their head above water by pushing others down, they drown.

 

[weedoge]

You don't eat meat? That's murder.

You don't wear clothes? That's abusing some poor person in the world.

You don't contribute to the system and society? That's consciously helping the system we live in.

You never lie?

You never abuse others?
Especially children. Or people weaker then you.



Is that a good person in your eyes?

I do get what you're saying and it's valid but I'm not responsible for the evil perpetrated by other people, just because I am forced to benefit from those evils. In fact I hate myself for not being able to get out of such a system or be able to make any viable change to it. I really do get what you're saying but I think all we can do is make baby steps towards change if there's even hope for any at all. I literally hope that any time I have left alive will be used for good and I am to minimise what I take from this world.

No I don't contribute to the system or society at all, actually. I haven't bought new clothes for years I lost count. There are systems in place so that conscious consumers can avoid buying services from companies that abuse cheap labour. Everybody lies, does that mean a person deserves to suffer? No I'm not an abuser and I aim to fix situations in which I've hurt somebody. I'm no saint and nobody is but why does that mean people deserve to suffer? I'm missing some connecting points in your logic I guess.

The big one you got me on is meat because yeah I eat meat, but again, why is it bad that we eat meat? What is the logic? Should we stop eating meat just because we have the brain power to consider that it might be wrong. Are all creatures who "murder" for food evil and deserve suffering?

I don't mean to start a fight, just really trying to understand. Are you just anti-human in general?

 

[Dani Paradox]

"Good people let themselves drown."

 

[weedoge]

Good people don't keep their head above water by pushing others down, they drown.

This I can agree with but that wasn't really the original point! I don't wanna get lost in words so I'll just say that I really don't think a number of people deserve to suffer as much as you're suggestion, but I guess that's a matter of opinion... what do you really think makes a person deserve to suffer? Should the level of suffering match up to the seriousness of the sin?

 

[Dani Paradox]

I'm gonna stop responding to things. Some things on this site are just too screwy.

"No one deserves to be happy." lol

"Allow others to drown you." lol

People who say things like this are the ones who are drowning in self hatred and insecurity, and then project it onto everyone around them, because they feel undeserving of happiness....and everyone else should have to suffer with them

 

[Couchking]

I do get what you're saying and it's valid but I'm not responsible for the evil perpetrated by other people, just because I am forced to benefit from those evils. In fact I hate myself for not being able to get out of such a system or be able to make any viable change to it. I really do get what you're saying but I think all we can do is make baby steps towards change if there's even hope for any at all. I literally hope that any time I have left alive will be used for good and I am to minimise what I take from this world.

No I don't contribute to the system or society at all, actually. I haven't bought new clothes for years I lost count. There are systems in place so that conscious consumers can avoid buying services from companies that abuse cheap labour. Everybody lies, does that mean a person deserves to suffer? No I'm not an abuser and I aim to fix situations in which I've hurt somebody. I'm no saint and nobody is but why does that mean people deserve to suffer? I'm missing some connecting points in your logic I guess.

The big one you got me on is meat because yeah I eat meat, but again, why is it bad that we eat meat? What is the logic? Should we stop eating meat just because we have the brain power to consider that it might be wrong. Are all creatures who "murder" for food evil and deserve suffering?

I don't mean to start a fight, just really trying to understand. Are you just anti-human in general?

I never said eating anyone is wrong.
I just used what normal people think.

Murder is wrong right? Stealing is wrong right?
Don't you think like that?

You say what's wrong with killing for your own benefit?

I never said it is wrong. Do you think it is wrong?

This is becoming really interesting :)

 

[Dani Paradox]

Good people don't keep their head above water by pushing others down, they drown.

What exactly did you mean by this? Are you talking about those people who go around and constantly feel the need to push down others simply because it makes them feel better about themselves?

Or are you suggesting that people should allow others to push them down and drown them....because it's bad to push down others? So just allow them to drown you.

You're kind of throwing me off a bit with your wording of things.

 

[Dani Paradox]

Yeah, a lot of people out there do fucked up things, but saying they don't deserve happiness is in itself pretty fucked up. Most people are not happy. The way someone treats you is only a reflection of their relationship with themselves. Did you ever stop to think that if everyone were to find happiness, then they wouldn't treat each other the way they currently do?? The world is the way it is because people have lost touch with love, and most people are not happy. We live in a world without love.

 

[Couchking]

What exactly did you mean by this? Are you talking about those people who go around and constantly feel the need to push down others simply because it makes them feel better about themselves?

Or are you suggesting that people should allow others to push them down and drown them....because it's bad to push down others? So just allow them to drown you.

You're kind of throwing me off a bit with your wording of things.

I mean exactly what I typed in before.
I don't suggest anything to anyone. Why would I care about them?

But many people think stepping on others to reach higher isn't good. :(

Would Jesus do that?

 

[weedoge]

I never said eating anyone is wrong.
I just used what normal people think.

Murder is wrong right? Stealing is wrong right?
Don't you think like that?

You say what's wrong with killing for your own benefit?

I never said it is wrong. Do you think it is wrong?

This is becoming really interesting :)

Just curious is English a second language for you?

No what I mean is do you think it's comparable for us to kill animals for meat, if we aim to do it in an "ethical" sustainable way compared to animals in nature who kill for food? We would get pretty unhealthy if we didn't eat any meat at all, especially people with specific dietary issues.

I think murdering another person is totally wrong but murdering animals for food... it's an interesting thought that I don't have strong opinions on, even though I still eat meat. I would say I almost value animals lives over humans but it doesn't mean I feel I have a right to decide if other lives are worth living or not, and I suppose we've just been brought up a certain, hell if I could eat people and live with animals instead of the other way around then I surely would. lol jk but you know.

Anyway, I must've misunderstood your post before.

You believe that you should step on others to reach higher?