Thiopental oral

[jasmineck]

Does thiopental IV injection taken orally work or not? Does anyone have confirmed knowledge about that?

 

[Sunset Limited]

A member took 1 gram of oral thiopental as a test. He only reported dizziness. 1 gram of oral N can be dangerous. This suggests that oral thiopental is not as strong as oral N. Of course, if the thiopental is pure.

In short, we do not have enough oral thiopental overdose case reports. This seems like a gamble.

IV thiopental works well. 5 grams is enough.

 

[jasmineck]

But how to do iv
I read in quora that it is choked to death, not a peaceful death

 

[sevennn]

But how to do iv
I read in quora that it is choked to death, not a peaceful death

IV is difficult if you don't have medical knowledge. i looked up and too difficult for me

 

[Talvikki]

This study explains that pentothal (thiopental) has about half the toxicity when administered orally or rectally compared to nembutal (pentobarbital). This means that a larger dose of thiopental is required to achieve similar effects.

https://academic.oup.com/bja/article/16/1/1/261522

 

[rotciv]

A member took 1 gram of oral thiopental as a test. He only reported dizziness. 1 gram of oral N can be dangerous. This suggests that oral thiopental is not as strong as oral N. Of course, if the thiopental is pure.

In short, we do not have enough oral thiopental overdose case reports. This seems like a gamble.

IV thiopental works well. 5 grams is enough.

Well said.

But overall Thiopental isnt a good method for normal people.

 

[Sunset Limited]

Well said.

But overall Thiopental isnt a good method for normal people.

For IV route I would prefer thiopental instead of propofol. Thiopental is also hard to find. The best drug for IV route right now is anestofol. 5% lidocaine, 5% propofol. Since it contains lidocaine there is no pain in the injection. It is enough to push 25 cc of anestofol. But I still wonder how the Russians combined lidocaine and propofol.

 

[rotciv]

For IV route I would prefer thiopental instead of propofol. Thiopental is also hard to find. The best drug for IV route right now is anestofol. 5% lidocaine, 5% propofol. Since it contains lidocaine there is no pain in the injection. It is enough to push 25 cc of anestofol. But I still wonder how the Russians combined lidocaine and propofol.

From all my readings due to the ph of thiopental a pure solution will burn as hell.

 

[Sunset Limited]

From all my readings due to the ph of thiopental a pure solution will burn as hell.

I can dilute it enough because I have an injection system. 7 grams of thiopental in 150 cc of fluid works. Safer than propofol. Propofol is metabolized very quickly.

Drip infusion with 10 grams of thiopental in 50 cc of 0.9 saline also works. Slow infusion is a good solution for pain.

I am still curious about anestofol. A member was mentioning that it is very easy to buy. Anestofol is better than N for IV route also.

 

[rotciv]

I can dilute it enough because I have an injection system. 7 grams of thiopental in 150 cc of fluid works. Safer than propofol. Propofol is metabolized very quickly.

Drip infusion with 10 grams of thiopental in 50 cc of 0.9 saline also works. Slow infusion is a good solution for pain.

I am still curious about anestofol. A member was mentioning that it is very easy to buy. Anestofol is better than N for IV route also.

You know better than me.

 

[Sunset Limited]

You know better than me.

Thanks. I also like sharing what I know, just like you. Actually, I should be gone a long time ago. I couldn't do this to my mother. I'm trapped here now. I don't know how long I can go on.

 

[J&L383]

IV is difficult if you don't have medical knowledge. i looked up and too difficult for me

You could study to be a venipuncturist (the guys who draw the blood at the doctor's office, that's all they do, don't need a doctor's license or anything) and then you would know how to do an IV.

 

[bb142342]

Hallo zusammen,
Hat jemand aktuelle Informationen zu Thiopental?

Ich hatte vor langer Zeit ein Gespräch mit einem Apotheker, und er sagte, dass Thiopental tatsächlich auf die gleiche Weise wirkt wie Nembutal.
Der einzige Unterschied ist der Schwefel, der es instabil und kurzlebig macht.

Auch die Wirkdauer wird mit lediglich 5-15 Minuten angegeben.

Neulich habe ich allerdings auch gelesen, dass dies nur bei Injektion gilt.

Es soll angeblich keine gute Wirkung haben, wenn man es oral einnimmt? Hätte der Apotheker das nicht wissen müssen?

Allerdings steht überall auch, dass es im Körper anschließend zu Pentobarbital verstoffwechselt wird. Sollte das dann die Dauer und die gewünschte Wirkung verlängern?

Was meinen Sie? Hätte eine etwas größere orale Dosis die gleiche Wirkung wie das N-Pulver?