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- Jun 18, 2018
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The odds of coming into existence are so unlikely. 50 yrs ago (20 yrs before birth) I wasn't even a speck . I and we are something that sprang from nothing.
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There are 1000s of threads on this. When you die there are only two reasonable scenarios in my opinion. 1 (this is what I believe) you continue to live in the astral plane as pure consciousness. 2. You are just software created by your neural activity and when your body dies, you dissipate. There are many other theories like we being virtual characters in a computer program created by our ancestors, quantum suicide, but there's no evidence for anything outside of the first two theories I mentioned.
If testimonial evidence qualifies for your idea of evidence, then yes. Like this for exampleThere's evidence for those theories?
If testimonial evidence qualifies for your idea of evidence, then yes. Like this for example
https://www.near-death.com/science/evidence/people-born-blind-can-see-during-nde.html
There has also been some real scientific experiments with people that have read code numbers while out of body, but they were not replicated
For me is good enough. Even if you guys are right and I'm just this piece of meat who cares, it would have happened anyway. Better to not delay the inevitable. For me is a win - win.I don't count that as evidence.
We know nothing about the afterlife, probably never will. There most likely is nothing, we cease to exist, the end.
Doesn't matter, everything dies, even the greatest men that ever lived die and so do their children. Death is the greatest equalizer.
If testimonial evidence qualifies for your idea of evidence, then yes. Like this for example
https://www.near-death.com/science/evidence/people-born-blind-can-see-during-nde.html
There has also been some real scientific experiments with people that have read code numbers while out of body, but they were not replicated
Alright, being intrigued by the fact that these videos are made by "scientists", I open-mindedly did some digging.
Regarding the experiment in the first video - on page 7 of the research document, Dr Tanous (the man in the video) claims anyone can leave his body at will with few breaths. Won't comment further on that, I leave this up to you.
Regarding the second video - here is a report from a scientist who was observing some of the experiments conducted by the creators of that "astral projection" experiment. On the second page and second column he describes non-existant or anecdotal control techniques. And this is coming from a person who was there, in the lab.
I won't even go into discussing your reply to me (people say say say, no specific evidence).
Now I am not saying that astral projections are impossible, but I want to ask you - do you believe that they are real because you want to believe they are real or because you were convinced by specific studies/personal encounters?
Is this also a lie and bullshit because it threatens your worldview?
you're biased and closed minded.It's absolutely a lie and 100% bullshit. But not because it threatens his worldview. Just because it's bullshit.
Maybe. I'll find out tomorrow if I'm right.Although I do not believe what you said (your sub-conscious could have easily picked up the information without your awareness), if this experience gives you faith and strength, then so be it. I do however recommend you to always consider such matters from an alternative point of view.
NoLifeNoPain, I'm with youMaybe. I'll find out tomorrow if I'm right.