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imsotired35

imsotired35

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Apr 6, 2024
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It makes me so sad to think about, honestly. When I hear stories of children who are 10-16 years old who hang themselves and succeed. I read on here a lot and heard how painful and scary it is from those who have attempted it and how you have to wait out those 20-30 seconds before you go unconscious. It breaks my heart that these children feel so much mental pain that they are able to wait it out without SI and they don't change their mind and back out before it's too late. 30 seconds is a long time when you are in a situation like that.
 
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suicidaltransgirl

suicidaltransgirl

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Aug 26, 2024
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It is particularly tragic, to think those kids have barely been alive for that long and already want to die. I remember having suicidal thoughts when I was a kid but I never even came close to attempting.
 
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Worndown

Worndown

Illuminated
Mar 21, 2019
3,125
In some cases they endure situations that are absolutely terrible.
 
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Ariii

Ariii

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Oct 29, 2023
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I once had a friend who confided in me that he had been suicidal since he was 10, not for any trauma, he was just "born messed up in the head," as he put it. It broke my heart.
 
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ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
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How is it any more sad than an adult killing themselves? In fact, I consider it to be less sad that some children are killing themselves since an earlier death is always better than a later death. The earlier somebody dies, the less they have to suffer overall in existence. That's just a basic logical fact. I envy children who managed to successfully die early
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
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It's tragic but I think the younger someone is the less they think about their actions and the results of what they're actually doing. The question is why are those children suicidal? Imo most of them are suicidal bc they have a horrible childhood (probably mainly abuse, toxic household and so on), only a few of them may be suicidal bc of genetic defects which cannot be cured anyway.
 
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Deleted member 8119

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Feb 6, 2024
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They have the right to.

What's truly outrageous is what causes children to feel like that in first place. Focus on what causes that to prevent it in first place: bullying, familiar abuse, neglect, and many needs not being met in the most vulnerable stage of your life.

If the suffering isn't bearable (it never is under suicide or you wouldn't be at that point), one shouldn't be forced to take it all because "it may get worth it". One should decide if they want to bear that or not.

Suicide is a response to a real problem that must be solved, only then it will be stopped.
 
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nattys5thtoenail

nattys5thtoenail

goofball
Oct 6, 2024
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I'm just wondering how they even found out how to successfully do that, it's really difficult considering they're young and probably have strong impulses so the fact that they managed to ignore SI while being so young is crazy to me.
 
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Deleted member 8119

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I'm just wondering how they even found out how to successfully do that, it's really difficult considering they're young and probably have strong impulses so the fact that they managed to ignore SI while being so young is crazy to me.
Desperate people always find a way. Needs are stronger than anything. This is why restricting methods or info hasn't done shit. People love to say how much they care about minors for solely restricting shit while ignoring almost everything else that puts them in such situations.
 
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nattys5thtoenail

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Oct 6, 2024
185
Desperate people always find a way. Needs are stronger than anything. This is why restricting methods or info hasn't done shit. People love to say how much they care about minors for solely restricting shit while ignoring almost everything else that puts them in such situations.
It's still really crazy though, I was suicidal as a kid too but part of me didn't actually want to die I just wanted someone to care so I could get the help I needed. The fact that they actually were desperate enough to go all the way is just, I have no words honestly…
 
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TransfemCutter

TransfemCutter

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Aug 2, 2024
41
My first attempt was when I was 8 and I certainly feel that kids have the ability to assess the consequences of their actions when it comes to ctb. I remember everything that went through my head, and obviously in my case SI got in the way of my attempt, but since then I've attempted again (when I was 17) and am currently planning my next attempt if I decide to make one. They say that you mentally mature faster while depressed, and I think that the average kid that catches the bus (if they are anything like me and others I've spoken to) probably has much better of a mental capacity that we give them credit for. The tragedy should never be the suicide itself, but rather the life that was lived up to that point. Not for adults, and not for children either.
 
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GalacticWarrior777

GalacticWarrior777

im at fault for all of this. try to help but hurt
Sep 24, 2024
166
They say that you mentally mature faster while depressed, and I think that the average kid that catches the bus (if they are anything like me and others I've spoken to) probably has much better of a mental capacity that we give them credit for.

I can definitely confirm this!

Apparently, It turns out I have depression for as long as I remember, and never was really mentally stable, it's just that it got worse everyday, to the point where I am now.

My parents maturity is ass. They to this day believe that all mental issues are fake, and people that toxicity and abuse dont cause any issues at all, and that its a normal thing (smh). Ive been way more mature than most the people around me ever since I turned 11 or 12, something like that. I believe that depression does cause people to mature way faster, especially children.
 
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AnderDethsky

AnderDethsky

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Oct 19, 2024
105
Before I speak, let me make this clear, God forbid, so as not to be misunderstood:

No matter how much we, humans, consider ourselves highly evolved, deeply spiritual, but Human is still the same animal as other mammals. Yes, we are highly functional, but our mind still serves instincts and emotions, and serves the interests of us first as an animal species - survival and reproduction.

The children's/teenage environment, where we often notice the highest manifestation of the laws of the pack, can amaze even mature representatives of the human race with its cruelty, which is not surprising, if we accept as a given that in essence all this cruelty is what a person really is. No one has yet developed a brain to weigh their actions and think about their long-term consequences, this is also hindered by the lack of life experience, when the individual has not yet had time to get the full consequences for his antics on his own skin from life itself, add to this the very peak of the development of the dominance of emotions and instincts and we get what we get. Thus, children/teenagers are real animals, in fact the most distilled manifestation of what our human nature is, not a morality, social institutions, and other constructs invented by us.

Of course, I am horrified by what makes them do this. Everyone would like to be loved and respected, damn it, and it is absolute bullshit that in this life, no matter how hard we try to deductively assume that all people are worthy of receiving this, our inductive empirical experience, alas, shows the opposite - not every one of us will be recognized by ourselves as worthy of receiving this. And of course, in their place, I would choose not to exist at all, if I could.

And at the same time, I admire such cases, I repeat once again, not what experiences led them to this, but because they were able to, and peace has finally come for them. Pro-lifers prefer with foam at the mouth most of all scream exactly about teen CTB, they apparently assume that at that age there can be no reason to do it at all, because the individual has not yet really had time to see life at that age. Believe me, they had a life, and what a life. Adults no longer have one, it has long been absorbed by the daily work-home routine, the extraction of resources, paying bills, everyday worries. While children have a full range of passions: communication, dating, friendship/loneliness, school hierarchy Leadership/Outcast, first love/inceldom, respect/bullying – all this is absolutely real, this is the most concentrated life, its most intense part, determining the further social role of the individual, his personality and self-esteem, and everything that happens in it simply cannot be unimportant for him, including cannot be unworthy of CTB.

Everything that comes next is only the maintenance of what has already been formed. If I were a little smarter and did not console myself that everything could get better, I would probably also refuse to drag my existence to adulthood, as soon as I realized which way the wind of my life was blowing, then I would have to suffer less from the meeting and with the aspects of adult life to boot.
 
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-nobodyknows-

-nobodyknows-

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Jun 16, 2024
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I was like this. Started feeling suicidal in middle school, started making serious attempts in high school.
 
suicidaltransgirl

suicidaltransgirl

Member
Aug 26, 2024
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How is it any more sad than an adult killing themselves? In fact, I consider it to be less sad that some children are killing themselves since an earlier death is always better than a later death. The earlier somebody dies, the less they have to suffer overall in existence. That's just a basic logical fact. I envy children who managed to successfully die early
I think it's more sad because no one is born wanting to kill themselves, quite the opposite actually. The moe time someone lives in this world, the more time they have to be traumatized and subject to painful things. The fact that some children are driven to those actions so early on in life usually means they endured a lifetime of pain in just a few years.
 
Chaosire

Chaosire

Literally insane, legally speaking
Sep 23, 2024
127
It was so much easier to commit to an attempt, when I was a teen.
Ignorance was bliss and nativity was king. Now that I'm a adult I overthink everything, have so many fears and end up backing out due to SI, anxiety and guilt,..
But I have lost some friends back then, who could've used some more fear of death. Some of them died due to temporary problems. There's a decent chance they could've thrived, once out of that situation.. I miss them.
I think it's more sad because no one is born wanting to kill themselves, quite the opposite actually. The moe time someone lives in this world, the more time they have to be traumatized and subject to painful things. The fact that some children are driven to those actions so early on in life usually means they endured a lifetime of pain in just a few years.
It does feel like that sometimes. I often run into people my age (around 30) that don't even have half the life experience that I had when I was 15. Part of me envies them, another part wishes they'd experience the real world and get to know what it's like.
 
imsotired35

imsotired35

She/her
Apr 6, 2024
78
Interesting responses. Yes I am sad also for the things that led up to them cbt. I am sad for adults and the things that led up to adults cbt too, but something about a child makes it that much sadder to me and I think it always will. I am pro choice but I would stay up as long as I had to if it meant talking a child out of it. Sorry but that's just how I feel. Children have a better chance of recovery than adults. They have a better chance at getting away from all the shit going on in their life without having to cbt. For children, I believe it is different, they are often drastic and impulsive and don't yet realise there are other ways out so they go to the only thing they can think of. 'Time heals all wounds' as they say. I don't believe this is the case for everybody but I believe it can be the case for some people. I heard a quote that said 'it isn't time that heals all wounds, it's what you do with that time'. Children have not given it enough time, they are not aware of all the resources available. Sorry if this comes across as pro life. I WANT it to be different for children. I want to see them overcome their struggles and thrive in their future. I want them to get through it and have the adult life that I never got. There is still time and hope for them
 

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