Discussion Why isn't Western media covering Islamist crimes?

[Pessimist]

I have noticed an under-reporting of Islamist crimes in the Western media and news outlets. Just a few days ago it was revealed that a bunch of jihadists, including Muslim anti-Israel influencer Laura Allam, kidnapped and tortured a Jewish employee in Australia. And yet the disturbing antisemitic crime was buried and there's hardly any information on it. In fact all media outlets in Australia have been ordered to remove her name and religious background for their coverage of the case. Is there an agenda behind it?

From anti-Israel activist to kidnapper: Laura Allam arrested for planning the kidnapping of Jewish employee in Australia

The woman, part of the Lebanese community, was known on social media for spreading pro-Palestinian hoaxes, especially after the war in Gaza.

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As I'm writing the post another story is released. Jewish dentist Benjamin Harouni was shot and killed in his clinic in San Diego today! The shooter: Mohammed Abdulkareem

 

[DarkRange55]

I'm sure I'll get backlash for this but similiar thing in the US and UK. Instead of "islamic-inspired terrorism," it's sometimes reported as "international terrorism." My guess would be the left-leaning PC culture. I had another comment about culture but I forgot what it was but I have also witnessed what you're saying

 

[R_N]

Media always wins creating a divide. Even when people see what is being done (on surface) they often resort to hating the other side in turn.

 

[SexyIncél]

Instead of "islamic-inspired terrorism," it's sometimes reported as "international terrorism." My guess would be the left-leaning PC culture.

Yeah, Chomsky argues that the media has liberal bias:

In fact, if the system functions well, it ought to have a liberal bias, or at least appear to. Because if it appears to have a liberal bias, that will serve to bound thought even more effectively.

In other words, if the press is indeed adversarial and liberal and all these bad things, then how can I go beyond it? They're already so extreme in their opposition to power that to go beyond it would be to take off from the planet.

We can see the bounds of thought. Kyle Kulinski points out that Cornell West did a rare — unique? — thing: call IDF "terrorists" on CNN

"But combatants must not kill civilians or innocent people, no matter who it is, IDF or Hamas. But -- but the problem is, if you're going to call Hamas a terrorist group, and the IDF is killing innocent people, they are terrorists, too. If American soldiers killed innocent people, they're terrorists, too. We have to be morally consistent in our language, in our deeds. And this is what I pull from Hebrew scripture, this is what I pull from following a Palestinian Jew named Jesus."

 

[Elysion]

Behind the curtain are people who support Islamists.
The most evil religion is Islam, just look carefully at the realities of the world.
For example, England planned a coup against the king of Iran 50 years ago due to political problems with Iran, and for better control , they decided to use an Islamist leader named Khomeini.
England lost control of the new leader of Iran and radical Islamists became autonomous.
Now in 2024, the Islamic leader of Iran is named Khamenei. On his order, many terrorists were armed in the Middle East and he also ordered Hamas to attack Israel.
The truth is that politicians make wrong decisions.
The day will come when Afghanistan and Iran will have nuclear weapons and nothing will stop World War III.

 

[leloyon]

I think neoliberals only give a shit as much as it promotes "tolerance".
Yeah, they probably are underreporting muslim crimes. Yet all the Western governments are still funding Israel and helping them out.

If the Western governments were really bending over backwards to muslims they didn't have to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, they didn't have to commit drone strikes in Yemen and Syria, they didn't have to bomb that Iranian general and they didn't have to torture people at Abu Ghraib and Gitmo.
Neoliberals will claim to be tolerant and they'll use the media to further this but in reality they don't give a fuck. They'll do enough to prop up the appearance of tolerance and call it a day.
Neoliberals only bend over to their lord and savior the Dollar.

Media always wins creating a divide. Even when people see what is being done (on surface) they often resort to hating the other side in turn.

This too.

 

[Pessimist]

Behind the curtain are people who support Islamists.
The most evil religion is Islam, just look carefully at the realities of the world.
For example, England planned a coup against the king of Iran 50 years ago due to political problems with Iran, and for better control , they decided to use an Islamist leader named Khomeini.
England lost control of the new leader of Iran and radical Islamists became autonomous.
Now in 2024, the Islamic leader of Iran is named Khamenei. On his order, many terrorists were armed in the Middle East and he also ordered Hamas to attack Israel.
The truth is that politicians make wrong decisions.
The day will come when Afghanistan and Iran will have nuclear weapons and nothing will stop World War III.

Islamists fight against Western values, yet the Western media chooses to ignore their daily terrorist activities. This is self-destructive behavior.

I think neoliberals only give a shit as much as it promotes "tolerance".
Yeah, they probably are underreporting muslim crimes. Yet all the Western governments are still funding Israel and helping them out.

"Neoliberalism" is a slur. Socialists and "real" leftists ignore (and sometimes justify) Islamist crimes way more than liberals.

 

[Adûnâi]

It's because hyper-Christian atheists are winning the culture war against the Jew-obeying traditional Christians. Bleh. Both sides are traitors to their host nations, who cares.

Yeah, Chomsky argues that the media has liberal bias:
In fact, if the system functions well, it ought to have a liberal bias, or at least appear to. Because if it appears to have a liberal bias, that will serve to bound thought even more effectively.

I understand the point, but honestly, it reeks of the Western spirit. Compare this to an Islamic case - would a Muslim be more willing to listen to an atheist as opposed to his own ulema? Hell no. Because a Muslim will not consider anything pro-Western to be inherently on the side of the truth. But a Russian will. Because Russians are traitors by nature. But it is a mistake to transfer the experience of Radio Liberty in the USSR to non-European cultures.

In short - imagine a reality where people unironically tune in to Pravda because it is Bolshevik, and inherently despise and spit on Radio Liberty? Now that's Islam. Or Juche Korea. Any self-respecting Asian culture.

Only in European context is this "liberal bias" triumphant. Because Christianity is an inherently anarchic cult. In Christianity, you cannot deify a person to godhood, the way Asians do. Temporal power bends the knee to the Pope because Barbarossa drowned. Not so in Asia where the two go hand in hand, with pharaohs being absolute rulers, king-priests like Kim Jung Un-dongji.

 

[leloyon]

"Neoliberalism" is a slur.

Good, that's how I intended it. They're scum bastards who stand for nothing.

 

[Pessimist]

Good, that's how I intended it. They're scum bastards who stand for nothing.

 

[SexyIncél]

Good, that's how I intended it. They're scum bastards who stand for nothing.

I'm sorry you're suffering low-effort insulting memes as payback for your insightful points on neoliberalism. Embarrassing

 

[Pessimist]

It's because hyper-Christian atheists are winning the culture war against the Jew-obeying traditional Christians. Bleh. Both sides are traitors to their host nations, who cares.

Using antisemitic tropes, you could argue that both groups are "Jew-obeying".

Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory - Wikipedia

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[leloyon]

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I'm not a communist, believe it or not. But I guess it's easier to assume that anyone you don't like is.

I'm sorry you're suffering low-effort insulting memes as payback for your insightful points on neoliberalism. Embarrassing

OP didn't even quote half of my original post, let alone respond to it. I feel zero embarrassment, I have already won.

 

[HighFlight]

Interesting how a valid question and discussion turned into insults in under ten posts...

Unfortunately, no one wins when you stop respecting each other as humans first.

 

[Adûnâi]

Using antisemitic tropes, you could argue that both groups are "Jew-obeying".

Well, the metaphor I'm using is that Christianity is a poison - it doesn't discriminate, and destroys anyone it comes in contact with. Hell, I consider modern Jews to be infected by the bacillus of mercy towards their enemies, from the centuries of living in the midst of Christians.

I wouldn't consider the hyper-Christians (aka liberals, woke people) to be induced by the Jews. Or, to be more, precise, those anti-Israeli Jews are body-snatched pods such as Noam Chomsky, who have imbibed Christian self-hatred and are now transferring it to their own homeland in Israel. Nasty stuff.

I'm trying to look at it all from a dispassionate angle. I would understand both the Nazis and the Jews. The Nazis lost, the entirety of the Western world is under Christian domination now... but the Jews are too weak to control their own 2-millennia-old church, so this golem is now feeding Palestinian children. Who will grow up and kill the Jews. Rather sad.

Still, the Jews had a good run, considering their tiny population size. And they might still triumph with AI. Sam Altman is going to assimilate all 8 billion humans into a very big Sam Altman. Just don't tell uncle Adolf, he would've been distraught. (Those Germs were so naïve, to them, a defeat meant Bolsheviks sending Aryans to Siberia, what an innocent fantasy.)

...So yeah, back on the topic - in short, the Jews cannot control the narrative 100%, the Christian golem is killing its master. I may be technically an anti-semite, but there is zero anti-semitism about this ugly ordeal, it's just spiritual Jews using Muslims to destroy biological Jews. Incestual rape cubed. Filthy gaikokujin. The world outside Juche Korea is so perplexing.

 

[Pessimist]

OP didn't even quote half of my original post, let alone respond to it. I feel zero embarrassment, I have already won.

You called liberals "scum bastards who stand for nothing". Do you even want me to respond seriously?


Edit: More Islamist crimes from the last few hours that no one is going to report...

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Because islam has too much power. The majority of people support islam. Even those who aren't religious support islam because they've been fed lies about Islam, such as how "islam is the religion of peace" and so forth. If western media were to talk about islamic crimes, they would be screwed over by everybody on the political spectrum. The muslims can use this as an opportunity to act all vulnerable whereas the non muslims will call it "islamophobia" due to it "disrespecting religion". People seem more inclined to criticise christianity because they can see its effects in america but islam gets a free pass because it hasn't really affected any western countries yet

You're just setting up for a losing battle if you go against something with so much power than you

 

[leloyon]

You called liberals "scum bastards who stand for nothing". Do you even want me to respond seriously?

I was referring to my original post on this thread, that was my second post on this thread. Is my original post so spooky that you cannot even acknowledge its existence?
And even then, I called liberals "scum bastards who stand for nothing" only after you ignored my entire post!

Because islam has too much power. The majority of people support islam. Even those who aren't religious support islam because they've been fed lies about Islam, such as how "islam is the religion of peace" and so forth. If western media were to talk about islamic crimes, they would be screwed over by everybody on the political spectrum. The muslims can use this as an opportunity to act all vulnerable whereas the non muslims will call it "islamophobia" due to it "disrespecting religion". People seem more inclined to criticise christianity because they can see its effects in america but islam gets a free pass because it hasn't really affected any western countries yet

You're just setting up for a losing battle if you go against something with so much power than you

Literally all of this can be said about Israel, and with that you're not even attacking Judaism itself, just the state of Israel in general.
Also "it hasn't really affected any western countries yet", so would you mind enlightening me on your opinions on the UK, France and Sweden? I'm sure you must agree that Islam hasn't affected these Western countries.

 

[Pessimist]

Also "it hasn't really affected any western countries yet", so would you mind enlightening me on your opinions on the UK, France and Sweden? I'm sure you must agree that Islam hasn't affected these Western countries.

Sweden has a very small Muslim population. Why did you give them as an example?



Also, no, it can't be said about Israel. There are massive pro-Palestinian protests all over America. People think that "Zionism" is an insult.

 

[Dot]

I have noticed an under-reporting of Islamist crimes in the Western media and news outlets. Just a few days ago it was revealed that a bunch of jihadists, including Muslim anti-Israel influencer Laura Allam, kidnapped and tortured a Jewish employee in Australia. And yet the disturbing antisemitic crime was buried and there's hardly any information on it. In fact all media outlets in Australia have been ordered to remove her name and religious background for their coverage of the case. Is there an agenda behind it?

From anti-Israel activist to kidnapper: Laura Allam arrested for planning the kidnapping of Jewish employee in Australia

The woman, part of the Lebanese community, was known on social media for spreading pro-Palestinian hoaxes, especially after the war in Gaza.

voz.us

As I'm writing the post another story is released. Jewish dentist Benjamin Harouni was shot and killed in his clinic in San Diego today! The shooter: Mohammed Abdulkareem

U kp accusng ppl of anti-semtsm & thn u pst ths

 

[Pessimist]

U kp accusng ppl of anti-semtsm & thn u pst ths

First of all I referred to the Islamist ideology, not the Islamic religion in general. But even if I were to criticize the religion itself, there is nothing racist about it. It's the same as criticizing any other religion like Christianity. Racism is discrimination based on race or ethnicity (which both Christians and Muslims are not).

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[SexyIncél]

U kp accusng ppl of anti-semtsm & thn u pst ths

In case anyone missed it — the mods apparently deleted this pic @Pessimist posted. Obviously, if I posted similar memes with hook-nosed Jewish bankers, I'd never hear the end of anti-semitism claims :P

(With good reason...)

 

[leloyon]

Sweden has a very small Muslim population. Why did you give them as an example?

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Also, no, it can't be said about Israel. There are massive pro-Palestinian protests all over America. People think that "Zionism" is an insult.

Again, you said "you want me to respond seriously?" earlier when you won't even acknowledge at least half of my post. Why focus on one specific line? Why not respond to the whole post? And you want to talk to me about responding seriously?
To answer your question, though, Sweden had a controversy a while back related to Quran burnings which causes a large uproar, and people have been going on forever about Sweden's immigration policy and the "Islamisation" of Sweden. My point being that the view that islam is not affecting Western countries is narrow-minded, because Europe.
Which, by the way, if you consider muslims a protected class that no one's allowed to criticise in the West, and have no effect on the West, I advise you to literally just go to Europe. America is not the whole West. The government, media and people are all plenty critical of islam and muslims.
And even in America, were you just asleep for 9/11 and its entire aftermath? Just missed out on the War on Terror and the anti-muslim sentiment as a result of it?

Also even if there are pro-Palestinian protests in America (which are done by civilians, not the media nor the government), that still doesn't change the fact that Zionists typically label all critics of Israel as anti-semites.
Nor does it change the aid money given to Israel by the US and UK, who both consider Israel their greatest ally in the Middle East. Which doesn't change the USS Liberty, Lavon affair, or the Samson option.

 

[Pessimist]

In case anyone missed it — the mods apparently deleted this pic @Pessimist posted. Obviously, if I posted similar memes with hook-nosed Jewish bankers, I'd never hear the end of anti-semitism claims :P

(With good reason...)

When it comes to discrimination against Jews, it gets more tricky, because (unlike Christians and Muslims) Jews are also an ethnic group and a nation. That's where you differentiate between anti-Judaism (a form of anti-religion) and antisemitism (a form of racism; discrimination against ethnic Jews, regardless of their religious beliefs). I'm Jewish by ethnicity and nationality, but I'm completely secular (Hiloni). I hold anti-Judaist views and I'm a big critic of religious Zionism.

Also even if there are pro-Palestinian protests in America (which are done by civilians, not the media nor the government), that still doesn't change the fact that Zionists typically label all critics of Israel as anti-semites.

But the reaction to these anti-Zionist protests isn't particularly negative. Now imagine what would happen if these were anti-Islamist protests.

 

[FutureHanger]

Interesting how a valid question and discussion turned into insults in under ten posts...

Unfortunately, no one wins when you stop respecting each other as humans first.

Yh I thought maybe this could be civil but unfortunately not. I personally think they don't report islamist crimes due to being PC and I say this as a radical leftist, but they're not PC as part of some pro-muslim agenda but simply for PR reasons.

 

[Pessimist]

Yh I thought maybe this could be civil but unfortunately not. I personally think they don't report islamist crimes due to being PC and I say this as a radical leftist, but they're not PC as part of some pro-muslim agenda but simply for PR reasons.

In my experience the far-left is way more likely to justify Islamist crimes than any liberal.

 

[Pessimist]

Twitch has just chosen a pro-Hamas Islamist at their "legendary woman"! What the hell is going on?


Another important topic: genocide of Nigerian Christians by Islamist militias:

Report: 8,000 Nigerian Christians murdered in worst year for Islamist attacks - Catholic Herald

YAOUNDÉ, Cameroon – Nigeria last year witnessed the bloodiest year of Islamist attacks against Christians according to a new report. More than 8,000 Christians were killed in 2023, the International Society for Civil Liberties and Rule of Law (Intersociety) has said. The report published on Ash...

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