Discussion Do you believe God exists?

[stermc]

No. And if he exists, I simply don't care.

 

[H.O.Xan]

this reminds me of rosharch from watchmen. His POV on God's existence is rly interesting

 

[Sparr0w]

i'm an atheist myself, and while there could theoretically be a god, i don't believe in one.

a lot of people don't seem to realise that we evolved to the conditions. all life really needs is water, light, some chemical soup, and a bit of luck. of course, there are preferable conditions, but the reason we haven't found alien life is just because everything's just too damn far away. most stars in the sky are already dead, the light just literally hasn't reached us yet. we can see the start of the universe, because that's the farthest the oldest light has gotten.

this world seems perfectly suited to its inhabitants, because everything else fucking died, lol. and still is dying, as global warming changes the world quicker than animals would usually adapt - a bottleneck event.

we don't need god to have started existing. we've figured out how stars form, and how atoms work. there are still things we don't know, and things we can't know (i.e a species that never left a single fossil, or what colour a t-rex was), but we know approximately how humans came to be. we're not special, there were other species of humans, even! we fought/fucked the neanderthals out of existance, but they sure were around.

sure, i can see a few places where you could fit god in. the specifics of how RNA and the like first came from. the start of the big bang, or how matter came into existence. but... where did god come from? if i were to go christian, which brand of christianity? which version of the bible? what about muslims, or the greek pantheon, or any other religion?

either things Are because they Are, and everything else is simply a side-effect of that, or the reason god/the aliens simulating us/whatever the fuck Is because it Is, and everything else is a side-effect of that. it's still a mindfuck that things exist either way, but if they didn't i wouldn't exist, so i guess things had to exist, in a sense.

in the end, the best way to go about things is still to come up with a theory, find a way to disprove it, and then try your best to disprove it. that's the core of science, and when there's nothing left to disprove, you've either found the answer or you need a new theory.

tl;dr: life seems so perfectly fitted bc thats how evolution works, we know a lot of shit, if god exist who created god? and science is Cool.

 

[Piotr_Stepanovith]

Probably no, but he cant blame me for my acts, he gave me a shit life

 

[imcurious]

i'm an atheist myself, and while there could theoretically be a god, i don't believe in one.

a lot of people don't seem to realise that we evolved to the conditions. all life really needs is water, light, some chemical soup, and a bit of luck. of course, there are preferable conditions, but the reason we haven't found alien life is just because everything's just too damn far away. most stars in the sky are already dead, the light just literally hasn't reached us yet. we can see the start of the universe, because that's the farthest the oldest light has gotten.

this world seems perfectly suited to its inhabitants, because everything else fucking died, lol. and still is dying, as global warming changes the world quicker than animals would usually adapt - a bottleneck event.

we don't need god to have started existing. we've figured out how stars form, and how atoms work. there are still things we don't know, and things we can't know (i.e a species that never left a single fossil, or what colour a t-rex was), but we know approximately how humans came to be. we're not special, there were other species of humans, even! we fought/fucked the neanderthals out of existance, but they sure were around.

sure, i can see a few places where you could fit god in. the specifics of how RNA and the like first came from. the start of the big bang, or how matter came into existence. but... where did god come from? if i were to go christian, which brand of christianity? which version of the bible? what about muslims, or the greek pantheon, or any other religion?

either things Are because they Are, and everything else is simply a side-effect of that, or the reason god/the aliens simulating us/whatever the fuck Is because it Is, and everything else is a side-effect of that. it's still a mindfuck that things exist either way, but if they didn't i wouldn't exist, so i guess things had to exist, in a sense.

in the end, the best way to go about things is still to come up with a theory, find a way to disprove it, and then try your best to disprove it. that's the core of science, and when there's nothing left to disprove, you've either found the answer or you need a new theory.

tl;dr: life seems so perfectly fitted bc thats how evolution works, we know a lot of shit, if god exist who created god? and science is Cool.

love this answer

 

[Disappointered]

The only ethical response to life is to annihilate everything.

 

[Hikikomori1]

I used to but not anymore.

 

[vexi]

Maybe? Who knows. I certainly don't.
I'm not religious, and I don't pray to god. But I do often like to fantasize about what can happen after death.

God in itself isn't all about death I know, but it's an interesting topic to sink time into.

But in my opinion god is just a way for people to spread their religion. And as people we charge and adapt to fit things to our beliefs. So god becomes whatever we see fit.

 

[Unattainable666]

Great question. I don't believe there is a god. I believe that people who are so enamored with the idea of a god are pathetic and unable to face the reality of how fucked the world really is. I am so tired of getting god shit shoved down my throat. I don't give a rat's ass what someone else believes (although it truly is pathetic) but don't push that bullshit off on me.

 

[Auxx]

I do believe that there is some higher power. There are things that have happened that are way to specific to be random chance/coincidence.

 

[dreamscape1111]

I saw God in nature, in my friendships, in my familial relationships.

Yes!

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." Q.2:115

"Do not curse time, because God is time." ~Muhammad

"I was a Hidden Treasure and I loved to be known, so I created the world." - Hadith Qudsi -

Every day in a different configuration. Q.55:29

Everything passes away except His face. Q.28:88

"He is the first and the last, the apparent and the hidden and He has knowledge of everything." Q.57:3

˹He is˺ the Originator of the heavens and the earth! When He decrees a matter, He simply tells it, "Be!" And it is! Q.2:117

how is it possible that a benevolent God exists alongside heinous crimes and events such as the holocaust, slavery, genocide, child abuse, and sex trafficking?

Because God is the ultimate Unity. God IS everything because loves everything. Love is metaphysical identity/oneness.
If God didn't allow selfishness, God couldn't be God. God is perfect love and It is so loving that It even allows selfishness within Itself.

Also, if God didn't allow selfishness, you could not be here as an ego asking why God allows selfishness.
But of course, God is Infinite, so it has to include everything, including that. Including selfishness.

It is all part of Reality and in fact an action of God.
If you reject evil, you in fact create evil. The solution to evil is to fully love it. The problem of exploitation is not solved with judgment or suppression, but LOVE!

it pains me to think that I may go back to a God I feel ignored by every single day.

Look at your hands. Your body is God. This is what God looks like. God has a human body.
God is a singular being who creates itself using infinite imagination. You are that being pretending to be human.

You are an Infinite Dreamer. YOU! YOU! YOU! No one else but you. Just look at what you dreamed up.

 

[all_is_vanity]

Yes but he is the most evil sadistic entity to ever exist

 

[SatouR]

Atheist now only belive in science.
Used to belive in God (before depression)
Very religious family had lots of arguments with.
Used to pray daily during bad times but eventually stoped believing because nothing changed.

 

[iamnotokaywiththis]

i do believe in god- whether he is the christian god with jesus christ and the holy spirit, that's another question. but i think there must be a higher power at play.

 

[Saai]

I believe if there is a God as the Bible describes him, then he's the most profound jackass to ever exist.

An omniscient being holding you accountable for actions you take while having always known you were going to take them, and having the power to stop you.

Real.

 

[Kundalini Guy]

As an ex-athiest, the bizzareness and strangeness of life made me believe in some type of god again. Everything seems to be happening in patterns and stuff that happened in the past is happening and will happen in the future again. There will be people born today who will CTB in a few decades from now like most of us.

 

[AsAboveSoBelow]

Absolutely not. At least not in the sky daddy/supreme being figure, obsessively watching over us while we jack off to porn, as touted by the organised religions. I grew up in a very conservative religious family and environment, made to study comparative religions and all the texts & scriptures lol. The more I studied, the more I realised there is no God but ourselves. If I may, even the etymology of "Allah" itself derived from "Al"+ "Illah" which means "the object of (one's) deepest desire", so make of that what you will.

 

[niki wonoto]

No I don't believe. I prayed and prayed for my partner to be spared, but no one heard or answered my prayers and my beautiful and talented partner succumbed to that bastard cancer leaving me in this shit hole to cope on my own.

I also had the same experience actually. Back in August 2020, my gf of 3-yrs relationship died due to cancer. At that time, I remember that I've prayed sincerely until I break down & cried & kneeled down begging for God to save her. But in reality, she died.

There were some hints of unexplained, strange coincidences however, few months after she passed away. But honestly, I don't know. I don't know if "God" is real, really exists or not, etc etc. What's sad is how I've now become a lot worse. I'm (severely/heavily) depressed & suicidal (passive suicidal ideation everyday, thinking about suicide & death everyday), because of how much of a failure/loser my life now have become.

It's a cold world. That's the harsh reality.

 

[WaitingToGo]

I also had the same experience actually. Back in August 2020, my gf of 3-yrs relationship died due to cancer. At that time, I remember that I've prayed sincerely until I break down & cried & kneeled down begging for God to save her. But in reality, she died.

There were some hints of unexplained, strange coincidences however, few months after she passed away. But honestly, I don't know. I don't know if "God" is real, really exists or not, etc etc. What's sad is how I've now become a lot worse. I'm (severely/heavily) depressed & suicidal (passive suicidal ideation everyday, thinking about suicide & death everyday), because of how much of a failure/loser my life now have become.

It's a cold world. That's the harsh reality.

Grief is an awful thing to bear and it never goes away, in fact for me it's getting worse. We were together 31 years

 

[tibicen_linnei]

I think we are all god in a way. I don't believe in heaven or hell. I think our energy disperses and eventually we become stars. Maybe not sentient in the way we are as humans, but definitely aware and knowing.

It gives me comfort. I'll eventually be with all my loved ones and we will all be a radiant energy.

 

[JealousOfTheElderly]

Yes, I believe some kind of deity exists but it's nothing like what religion teaches us. I believe there are higher beings and who knows - maybe when we're done suffering here, we will get to achieve deity-hood or something like that.

 

[Heavenbound]

Yes, I do believe in God.

 

[unplug]

Since the dawn of man we've been dancing over the idea that some form of "all-mighty being" watching over us.
It's our way to cope with this existence. We'd much rather think and convince ourselves that we aren't alone and that this isn't totally meaningless.
I tend to think more logically. Humanity thinks too fondly of themselves, that we had to of been created rather than being nothing more than another animal that came from millions of years of evolution.

 

[imcurious]

Since the dawn of man we've been dancing over the idea that some form of "all-mighty being" watching over us.
It's our way to cope with this existence. We'd much rather think and convince ourselves that we aren't alone and that this isn't totally meaningless.
I tend to think more logically. Humanity thinks too fondly of themselves, that we had to of been created rather than being nothing more than another animal that came from millions of years of evolution.

I think this aligns the most similarly with my own beliefs. God and religion exist because, one, humans exalt themselves over animals. They can't necessarily chalk it up to evolution and call it a day. Two, theories and hypotheses are made, but not always proved.

Philosophers like Immanuel Kant presented mankind's transition from an animal-like state towards a more civilized condition. Human and animals were finally separated when humans ultimately believed they are superior to animals. Aquinas' ideas in Summa Theologiae made broad distinctions between animals and humans, that is, the presence of higher order cognition in the latter and not the former.

Physicists attempt to answer interactions within the universe. The famous "String Theory" was initially developed to explain the interaction between protons in the universe. However String Theory cannot be falsified nor proven through traditional experimentation, thus why it remains a theory. Similarly, we use dark matter to explain interactions it has with real matter, yet researchers cannot 100% confirm whether dark matter actually exists or not. It simply "fits" what other things have been proven.

So, when you combine human superiority with theories and beliefs that cannot necessarily be tested, you create the narrative that we are a special species created by a figure we cannot see until we die.

 

[SantasHelper]

Yes. As of late it has been really hard, but I do believe in God. I also kind of struggle because sometimes I feel like life is a simulation.

 

[Atwr]

I do believe there is some kind of uncaused cause that started the chain of causality but i believe it was a phenomenon rather than a person.

 

[LONE WOLF.]

I also have pondered this very same question on many occasions! And have decided that if there is a God then he is a huge White wolf with razor sharp fang's, striding across a lawless frozen wasteland ripping the dark heart's out of the chest's of the unworthy and the evil doer's, and protectfully guiding the virtuous to a warm shelter and safety!

 

[kitch]

I recently came across the paradox of evil ... discussed by Epicure (?)...

I found a little comfort in the fact that greater minds than mine had come to some kind of "can't be figured out" conclusion / non-conclusion.

Problem of evil - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Epicurean Paradox – Epicurus Today

full disclosure.... I didn't read that article ...

I'm gonna post the meme I found on reddit and saved ...

searching searching searching ....

here it is ... unknown redditor source , thanks to them.

 

[earshurt]

No. I was raised by Christians, but always felt extremely uncomfortable with the base premise of Christianity. I believe God as described by Christianity is a narcissistic, violent jackass, and Hell is a made-up means of social control.

Yes, a lot of coincidences had to happen for life to spontaneously come into existence on Earth. That's why Earth is the only planet with life we've found.

 

[endless_pain]

No. I was raised by Christians, but always felt extremely uncomfortable with the base premise of Christianity. I believe God as described by Christianity is a narcissistic, violent jackass, and Hell is a made-up means of social control.

Yes, a lot of coincidences had to happen for life to spontaneously come into existence on Earth. That's why Earth is the only planet with life we've found.

I think the exact same. It is often used for triangulation too in case of narcissists.
I believe in childhood, where all the pain and cruelness of this world takes place in certain families and also society gaslighting.
We can study story of dictators for hours and see patterns.
The infamous narcissistic abuse cycle.