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CogitoMori

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Oct 21, 2024
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Politicians wondering why the birth rate is dropping in the US are out of touch, willfully ignorant, and simply uneducated. Why do birth rates drop in nature? Because of a lack of resources. When the adults are starving they do not reproduce because they do not have the energy or resources to do so. Humans are not any different. When you constantly deprive working people of resources in order to make more profit, they are also deprived of the ability to provide for someone other than themselves, and the elites are therefore deprived of their precious birth rates that create more wage slaves for them. If you want a larger herd, you feed the herd.
 
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LostLily

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Nov 18, 2024
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Considering how expensive everything , having children is a luxury.

Put aside the argument that when you have a child you are of burdening them with living in a messed up world and in a life of pain and worry.
 
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Hvergelmir

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May 5, 2024
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I sympathize with the reasoning, but I don't think it matches observation.
Observation indicates the straight opposite. Birth rates are low in rich countries, and high in poor ones.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/birth-rate-by-country

I think it's a cultural thing. Children does not support the family or give much security in the modern world.
In the modern west particularly, children are a liability not giving anything back. In some parts of the world they are both free labor and a security for retirement.
(I'm intentionally painting extremes.)

The right and the left are both contributing to and trying to solve the problem, in various ways.
I don't think there's any unified agenda of the 'elites', on this.
 
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Birth rates are low even in the richest, happiest, healthiest countries. As @Hvergelmir mentioned, it's moreso a cultural thing.

My personal take is that having children has always been a pretty gnarly, disagreeable experience, especially for women, but in the past (and in impoverished countries today) people simply didn't have a choice, both due to biological (ie. sex drive) and social factors. We figured out the biological part a few decades ago with the advent of modern contraceptive methods, but the social aspect had a bit of a lag and took longer to catch up to the new reality. For example, in the 1980s it was still socially expected that pretty much everyone would have children, despite contraception being widely available.

Now, our social mores have finally caught up to the technology, and we are realizing that there isn't actually a very strong case to be made for having children, at least from an individual perspective. As such, reproduction is being left to only those who genuinely value childrearing, which is only a minority (or perhaps a plurality) of the population -- which is probably for the best.
 
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