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There was an old inert gas setup video, called "doing it with chi" or "doing it with betty" (I forgot). It was taken down at some point, I am not sure if any archives exist. If there are, please share
 
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There was an old inert gas setup video, called "doing it with chi" or "doing it with betty" (I forgot). It was taken down at some point, I am not sure if any archives exist. If there are, please share




Found these helpful with p1 on this for basics on this method, wishing us all peace <3
 
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Fire&Ash

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Can someone answer this? From my understanding, if I got a big plastic bag, those large turkey ones, and tapes the plastic tubing to the inside, is that the proper way? Also, trying to push oxygen out before putting bag on doesn't make sense to me? If I put the bag on my forehead, wait for the nitrogen to fill the bag up, and then pull down the bag on my head, is the oxygen gone and I did the method right? This is how I'm visualizing it but I don't this is right? I'm just stumped on removing the oxygen and then adding the nitrogen because I think if I just put the bag on and add nitrogen, I would start freaking out from the mix of both right?
 
parasite_eve

parasite_eve

Between life and death; a secret third thing.
Jan 3, 2025
140
Can someone answer this? From my understanding, if I got a big plastic bag, those large turkey ones, and tapes the plastic tubing to the inside, is that the proper way? Also, trying to push oxygen out before putting bag on doesn't make sense to me? If I put the bag on my forehead, wait for the nitrogen to fill the bag up, and then pull down the bag on my head, is the oxygen gone and I did the method right? This is how I'm visualizing it but I don't this is right? I'm just stumped on removing the oxygen and then adding the nitrogen because I think if I just put the bag on and add nitrogen, I would start freaking out from the mix of both right?
The idea behind it is to create an oxygen free environment using the pressure from inflowing inert gas.

By using an elastic cord snug (but not sealed) and smushing out the air first, one can see the nitrogen filling up the bag and know it's ready to be pulled down; there may still be traces of o2 from pulling down over face to neck, but should be forced about quickly by the gas with any co2 exhaled until gas runs out.

I think this person spells it out clearly:
 
Fire&Ash

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Apr 15, 2020
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Hello everyone. I am having the worst time trying to find a regulator and flow meter. I know I can use argon/co regulator but it usually comes with 2 gauges. Which I'm not sure if I want that? And I can't find a proper flow meter. I have not found one flow meter that uses lpm on Amazon. I also don't know how I would combine these two things together to the cylinder. My original plan was to get a combined one but the units were not right. Help? Where did you get yours? Will you chat/conversation it with me?
 
parasite_eve

parasite_eve

Between life and death; a secret third thing.
Jan 3, 2025
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On regulators/ flow meters:

1. There should be two guages on a 2-in-1 regulator/ flowmeter: one showing pressure (how much you have left in the tank) and one showing flow rate (what we need to set to 15-19 LPM per PPH).

2. Many come with CFH instead of LPM but this can be converted using algebra or finding online converter site (DO NOT use GenAI).

3. I found options by searching (argon click style regulator) because I like how these can just be set easily to a certain flow rate 0-60 CFH for argon (0 to ~34 LPM for nitrogen). But also check out this for alt style and details on how to do the calculations:


 
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On regulators/ flow meters:

1. There should be two guages on a 2-in-1 regulator/ flowmeter: one showing pressure (how much you have left in the tank) and one showing flow rate (what we need to set to 15-19 LPM per PPH).

2. Many come with CFH instead of LPM but this can be converted using algebra or finding online converter site (DO NOT use GenAI).

3. I found options by searching (argon click style regulator) because I like how these can just be set easily to a certain flow rate 0-60 CFH for argon (0 to ~34 LPM for nitrogen). But also check out this for alt style and details on how to do the calculations:


Ya I've been looking for one through Amazon and Airgas. Idk. I just see regulators with 2 pressure gauges (low-high) but no flow meter. I did find one with one pressure gauge with a glass tube flow meter but the flow meter is not right.
 
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Nov 24, 2024
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Ya I've been looking for one through Amazon and Airgas. Idk. I just see regulators with 2 pressure gauges (low-high) but no flow meter. I did find one with one pressure gauge with a glass tube flow meter but the flow meter is not right.
Are you in the US? Regulators vary a bit in different parts of the world due to different units and standards for fittings.

When I search Amazon for argon regulators in the US I'm getting around 10 suitable results ranging from $20 to $150 in price. Thet all look similar to this:
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Alternatively you could get a 2-gauge pressure regulator along with a separate nitrogen flow meter. You would have to connect the regulators together and set the pressure regulator to produce the output pressure needed by the flow regulator (50 psi I believe). The advantage is you could get a nitrogen flow meter instead of argon and eliminate the need for unit conversions.
 

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