Method Guns/firearms megathread

[toomuchgrief]

Since this is a gun thread, I want to make this clear, point a gun to your head/temple DOES work. PROOF here, this Shuaiby guy point the tactical shotgun KSG to his head and blow his head to pieces. Yes. Literally BLOW his head to pieces.

Those who haven't see the video, welcome to see it below.

If I chose the gun route, I would go exactly like this Shuaiby guy (aim at my head like he did). Same tactical shotgun KSG, if his KSG blow his head to pieces, my head will be blow to pieces too, since it the exact same gun.
But right now I still chose the 2,000 feet jump route. If I stand on 2,000 feet height and couldn't do it. This KSG tactical shotgun will be my way to go.

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[TAW122]

@toomuchgrief Yes, I have seen that video before and indeed, it is a very gruesome sight for those who find the body afterwards. As for reliability, yes, that is very likely, but for me I still prefer in through the mouth as it is easier to aim correctly and there is less dense material for the pellets or whatever to go through.

 

[toomuchgrief]

I still going to aim at my brain like that Shuaiby guy. Because the KSG tactical shotgun it very powerful, it powerful enough to blow your head to pieces.

Anyways, found this on Twitter, want to show everyone.

This guy (pic blow) obviously put the shotgun in his mouth the wrong way I guess, because look, his brain above still all there. And guess what? He survived, he end up with facial reconstruction. Yeah, I pass on the mouth after see this.

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[Roger]

Perhaps you could post a Graphic Warning and a link, for those who want to see this sort of thing,

 

[mesohappy]

I still going to aim at my brain like that Shuaiby guy. Because the KSG tactical shotgun it very powerful, it powerful enough to blow your head to pieces.

Anyways, found this on Twitter, want to show everyone.

This guy (pic blow) obviously put the shotgun in his mouth the wrong way I guess, because look, his brain above still all there. And guess what? He survived, he end up with facial reconstruction. Yeah, I pass on the mouth after see this.

Looks like that poor fella went under the chin.Not in mouth, aimed back.

 

[toomuchgrief]

I guess my post was edit to change it to link format, but the above link didn't work when click on it, so I will repost the link. I will post it in link format, if anyone want to see the gore image then click on it.

gunshot to mouth, face construction link, if want see, click here

Anyhoo, this guy shot it in the mouth, not chin. Look at the pic again, his chin looks fine, didn't burst open, only his mouth up to his nose does. The whole brain still intact.

 

[TAW122]

@toomuchgrief
Just saw that, I am wondering how the person managed to fail, did he use too weak of a load (like #8 shot) or aimed incorrectly in the mouth (too low/too high)? I'm probably the only gun expert here (as the other ones that were aren't active or around anymore.. @TiredHorse, @Threads, @Stillnotsure, etc.), but even I don't know EVERYTHING myself...

 

[mesohappy]

@toomuchgrief
Just saw that, I am wondering how the person managed to fail, did he use too weak of a load (like #8 shot) or aimed incorrectly in the mouth (too low/too high)? I'm probably the only gun expert here (as the other ones that were aren't active or around anymore.. @TiredHorse, @Threads, @Stillnotsure, etc.), but even I don't know EVERYTHING myself...

I don't want argue back and forth over the pictures,but I still say(looks like to me) this guy went under the chin.In the first picture I don't see the chin and the way the meat flaps of his face are blown out,well if he would have done it correctly through the mouth,far enough back angled slightly upward,the "blowout" would be out the back of his head.In the second picture you clearly see all the scarring on his chin where its been damaged/put back together.As far as the bone structure still being there,well they would replace that with prosthesis or bone grafts/cadaver bone.

 

[oxymoron]

Will a kahr 9mm be good enough for a headshot?

 

[mesohappy]

Will a kahr 9mm be good enough for a headshot?

With proper placement it should be sufficient..But nothing is 100% certain.Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords survived a head shot from a 9mm.You can do a quick google search on her case,alot of info on trajectory and what not with pics and diagrams.

Other factors would be type of bullet.A hollowpoint being more suitable than a full metal jacket for instance.

 

[TAW122]

I don't want argue back and forth over the pictures,but I still say(looks like to me) this guy went under the chin.In the first picture I don't see the chin and the way the meat flaps of his face are blown out,well if he would have done it correctly through the mouth,far enough back angled slightly upward,the "blowout" would be out the back of his head.In the second picture you clearly see all the scarring on his chin where its been damaged/put back together.As far as the bone structure still being there,well they would replace that with prosthesis or bone grafts/cadaver bone.

Yeah I think that might be the case. While we don't know beyond a reasonable doubt, just the skin graft and reconstructive afterwards will give us quite a bit of information on how the person attempted to CTB.

With proper placement it should be sufficient..But nothing is 100% certain.Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords survived a head shot from a 9mm.You can do a quick google search on her case,alot of info on trajectory and what not with pics and diagrams.

Other factors would be type of bullet.A hollowpoint being more suitable than a full metal jacket for instance.

Very true and as far as how she survived it, I believe it depends on where she was hit and also that she received immediate medical attention as well as the quality of care the doctors and physicians provided her; it all factored into her survival as well as recovery. Yes, the kind of bullet the attacker used is also a big factor too.

 

[Nihil]

So seeing as how Russian roulette gave me shell shock, so-to-speak, I decided it'd be better to invest in a shotgun. Should it ever come time for me to leave this psycho dark world, which 12 gauge ammo would be best?





I picked up both, just in case, but I can't decide which would be the better bullet to use. Suppose it ultimately wouldn't matter since both would be fairly lethal, but in order to avoid that very small chance of surviving a blow (and aiming correctly inside the mouth), which would be the better bullet?

 

[Jumper]

To Gun Owners,

How long have you had your gun? What is the main reason why you haven't CTB'd?
Thanks in advance for your responses.

Future Gun Owner

 

[TAW122]

@Nihil The 00 buckshot has several large pellets that spread a bit when fired (but still functions similarly to a slug due to the close proximity of the shot), so I guess either one is fine. Personally, I'd go with the 00 buckshot, but feel free to go with either one that you feel comfortable with.

To Gun Owners,

How long have you had your gun? What is the main reason why you haven't CTB'd?
Thanks in advance for your responses.

Future Gun Owner

I had my firearm for more than a year. It is currently stored away at some other store because I am living in a place that doesn't allow firearms (my parents' home) and also since I have little privacy over my space, I simply don't want the hassle of shuffling about and having to worry about "accidental discovery of my firearm". I haven't CTB'd (originally was going to May 2019, and December 2019) due to some smol (small) recoveries during my life in that year. However, as life has turned to shit once more, knowing my future and my values as well as knowing how things will continue to be, I've made my decision to CTB in 2020. I'm just waiting for the right time and circumstance to present itself (as well as after making true peace with all things for myself).

 

[Throwmyselfaway]

So random question. I know hollow points would be the preferred bullet but what if you could get your hands on black talons?

 

[mesohappy]

To Gun Owners,

How long have you had your gun? What is the main reason why you haven't CTB'd?
Thanks in advance for your responses.

Future Gun Owner

Ive had my guns for a few years now and the reason I haven't used them on myself is I still have some responsibilities Im not ready to leave just yet.I still manage to find moments of enjoyment and pleasure in this life from time to time.Lately I feel like Im waiting around to see just how bad things can get before all hope and pleasure are gone.

Last month I came the closest I ever have.Sitting with the chamber loaded,hammer cocked, barrel in the mouth,war in the mind....Wasn't time yet.It sometimes helps me to rest and sleep knowing the option is close at hand.

So random question. I know hollow points would be the preferred bullet but what if you could get your hands on black talons?

I don't have any experience personally,with black talons,but from what Ive read they perform basically the same as any other hollowpoint.Just have a cooler name and different look.

 

[oxymoron]

With proper placement it should be sufficient..But nothing is 100% certain.Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords survived a head shot from a 9mm.You can do a quick google search on her case,alot of info on trajectory and what not with pics and diagrams.

Other factors would be type of bullet.A hollowpoint being more suitable than a full metal jacket for instance.

What kind of placement you talking about? Like the temple?

 

[LastRide]

So seeing as how Russian roulette gave me shell shock, so-to-speak, I decided it'd be better to invest in a shotgun. Should it ever come time for me to leave this psycho dark world, which 12 gauge ammo would be best?

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I picked up both, just in case, but I can't decide which would be the better bullet to use. Suppose it ultimately wouldn't matter since both would be fairly lethal, but in order to avoid that very small chance of surviving a blow (and aiming correctly inside the mouth), which would be the better bullet?

Both will work perfectly....in case you decide to go ahead good luck to you ! Work on the correct trajectory !

To Gun Owners,

How long have you had your gun? What is the main reason why you haven't CTB'd?
Thanks in advance for your responses.

Future Gun Owner

My father was a hunter and we've always had guns in the house ever since I was a child....he also taught me how to shoot guns, pistols, shotguns, any gauge and caliber you can imagine from when I was 5. So guns is something that I am completely comfortable with, and I have around 50 different weapons in the house (all legal, rest assured, I have all the right papers to own them legally and no, I do not live in the US....). The reason I never thought of guns as a means to ctb is simply because I thought it would be extremely painful ! Since reading the firearms megathread here on SS I am now confident that a shotgun shot to the head will not hurt since you just don't get the time for your brain to realize something is hurting....so now I feel delighted and comfortable with that solution !

 

[mesohappy]

What kind of placement you talking about? Like the temple?

Not trying to be vague,but go back to square one on this thread and read it in entirety.I believe shot placement/trajectory has been discussed ad nauseam.

 

[oxymoron]

Not trying to be vague,but go back to square one on this thread and read it in entirety.I believe shot placement/trajectory has been discussed ad nauseam.

Can you point me to it?

 

[Pan]

Belize, I have found, is relatively devoid of legislation regarding gun control. My plan,,, etc is ultimately is to return there and, with the aid of firearm, shooting myself on the beach. I have decided that my little dog must join me, given his complete dependence on me. I know some of you might deplore that decision. But my dog is not like other dogs—-he is a xoloitzcuintli. It is believed among the ancient Mayan and Aztecan cultures that the xoloitzcuintli finds a good spot for its master in the underworld and must accompany him/her. He cannot live without his master/mistress.

 

[Roger]

Belize, I have found, is relatively devoid of legislation regarding gun control. My plan,,, etc is ultimately is to return there and, with the aid of firearm, shooting myself on the beach. I have decided that my little dog must join me, given his complete dependence on me. I know some of you might deplore that decision. But my dog is not like other dogs—-he is a xoloitzcuintli. It is believed among the ancient Mayan and Aztecan cultures that the xoloitzcuintli finds a good spot for its master in the underworld and must accompany him/her. He cannot live without his master/mistress.

You're going to shoot your dog ?

 

[Pan]

You're going to shoot your dog ?

Absolutely not. He will be with friends, but I have given instructions that he be euthanized, if the need arises.
When I wrote about my xolo and stressed that he would accompany me to the underworld, I spoke metaphorically, not literally. I am sure he'll to fine with my friend, Luis.

 

[Jumper]

Intra-Oral Route targeting the Medulla or Upper Cervical Spinal Cord

How far back does the barrel's end have to be in your oral cavity? My concern would be angling it up, but without appropriate insertion depth. In this case, the bullet may blast through the hard palate (17 in pic below), enter the nasal area (16,14), and only reach one of the frontal lobes (1). This is survival with impairment and facial deformity.

 

[TAW122]

In the diagram above, I would have the barrel deeper into the mouth and aimed slightly upwards to ensure that I hit the brainstem directly. Also with the barrel deeper in the mouth, I can ensure that I am EVEN less likely to miss (more important with a handgun as the barrel is shorter and more likely to move around than say a long gun).

 

[Jumper]

In the diagram above, I would have the barrel deeper into the mouth and aimed slightly upwards to ensure that I hit the brainstem directly. Also with the barrel deeper in the mouth, I can ensure that I am EVEN less likely to miss (more important with a handgun as the barrel is shorter and more likely to move around than say a long gun).

How long should the barrel be? I know a snub nose is not good. But maybe even 4 inches is too small. Possibly 6"? Do I need to deep throat it???

 

[ctbUniquectb]

I remain surprised at the lack of popularity of putting one right in the back of your own head. You can feel the upper spinal column and even without destroying the brainstem, have nearly guaranteed death, barring some sort of "miraculously" fast discovery and surgery.

 

[Jumper]

I remain surprised at the lack of popularity of putting one right in the back of your own head. You can feel the upper spinal column and even without destroying the brainstem, have nearly guaranteed death, barring some sort of "miraculously" fast discovery and surgery.

That would be very hard technically for me.

 

[ctbUniquectb]

That would be very hard technically for me.

Hey, I'm not judging.

My point is, in general, you don't see it mentioned, but it's a method that's even in the pop culture. Trigger warning, cartoon below.

Spoiler: NSFW but not gore

 

[LastRide]

I remain surprised at the lack of popularity of putting one right in the back of your own head. You can feel the upper spinal column and even without destroying the brainstem, have nearly guaranteed death, barring some sort of "miraculously" fast discovery and surgery.

Well I cannot lift my arm that far back so it's a bit problematic....otherwise I'd do it that way, having cold metal in your mouth as the last sensation you'll ever feel is not such a nice thought...I'm thinking maybe I could wrap something yummy aroud the shotgun barrel so it would be more "palatable"? Any suggestions anyone???