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SectOfValtiel

Attendant of God
Nov 7, 2022
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I'm not saying I don't believe op, but what I am saying is that I always trust my gut instinct over anything. Anytime that I haven't trusted it I always regretted it.

Whatever happens OP I wish you the best.
and thats the complete opposite of my experiences
more often than not ive regretted acting on it impulsively, ive lost friends and even arguably the love of my life that way
idk if mines just inherently broken or what
but id rather observe and base my decisions off what i can see, rather than what i feel
as much as i can at least

thats just my opinion
if your gut works for you, hell yeah, believe in it all you can
it just does not for me
 
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Enlightened
Aug 14, 2022
1,292
and thats the complete opposite of my experiences
more often than not ive regretted acting on it impulsively, ive lost friends and even arguably the love of my life that way
idk if mines just inherently broken or what
but id rather observe and base my decisions off what i can see, rather than what i feel
as much as i can at least

thats just my opinion
if your gut works for you, hell yeah, believe in it all you can
it just does not for me
I understand my friend. I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to intuition and ego but sometimes it's easy for us to listen to our ego thinking that it is our intuition. I'm sorry you had to go through those experiences.
 
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JJJune

Member
Nov 20, 2020
19
I'm done here and with this site for good now. Yall can make your own assumptions and conclusions about me and my story. I know I am telling the truth and I feel crazy like I'm being gaslit or something. Some responses I'm getting here questioning my validity ultimately left me triggered and genuinely pains and offends me. It seems that staying here will only worsen my mental health now. So thanks for that. To the people that empathize with me, I appreciate you.

Done here.
 
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Someone123

Illuminated
Oct 19, 2021
3,875
I'm not trying to be an asshole, it's just that every day there seems to be some post about SN that is very dramatic and differs from most other accounts and then everyone comes out of the woodwork to post on how scared shitless it made them. Maybe every single thing OP says is true, but I think it's beneficial to remind everyone that the pph gave SN a score of 7 for peacefulness for a reason and they really should decide for themselves and not let 1 random case that can't be proven or disproven scare them out of what very well could be a peaceful exit for them.
There was another recent account about brain damage from sn. I think we should let people share their experiences and not go to saying they are lying because we don't like the results they have gotten. Many methods leave damage if they are unsuccessful, and we are learning more bout ths with sn. I don't think she is lying, she is trying to explain the nest she can what happened.
 
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Enlightened
Aug 14, 2022
1,292
I'm done here and with this site for good now. Yall can make your own assumptions and conclusions about me and my story. I know I am telling the truth and I feel crazy like I'm being gaslit or something. Some responses I'm getting here questioning my validity ultimately left me triggered and genuinely pains and offends me. It seems that staying here will only worsen my mental health now. So thanks for that. To the people that empathize with me, I appreciate you.

Done here.
I have a question. Do you think you can truly be happy if you're surrounded by miserable people?
 
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Jadzia

Name is from Star Trek. I'm not from E. Europe
May 8, 2019
405
There was another recent account about brain damage from sn. I think we should let people share their experiences and not go to saying they are lying because we don't like the results they have gotten. Many methods leave damage if they are unsuccessful, and we are learning more bout ths with sn. I don't think she is lying, she is trying to explain the nest she can what happened.
The brain damage for the OP from this thread was because they banged their head, not from the SN
 
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Enlightened
Aug 14, 2022
1,292
The brain damage from the OP from this thread was because they banged their head, not from the SN
There was another thread. Although there was no evidence provided. Only evidence up to date I believe was in article where ab older gentleman got some sort of rare brain damage that people usually recover and heal from in around a two years time. There was another one that showed brain damage I believe, but she was already dead.
 
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aforestfire

"for truly, i am no longer a part of the world."
Dec 17, 2022
88
I'm done here and with this site for good now. Yall can make your own assumptions and conclusions about me and my story. I know I am telling the truth and I feel crazy like I'm being gaslit or something. Some responses I'm getting here questioning my validity ultimately left me triggered and genuinely pains and offends me. It seems that staying here will only worsen my mental health now. So thanks for that. To the people that empathize with me, I appreciate you.

Done here.
well, if it's true, i wish you the best and that you have the best recovery. glad to hear that you're doing better, and i'm sorry that being here worsen your mental state.
leaving must be better anyways, and again: i wish you the best.
 
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SamTam33

Warlock
Oct 9, 2022
763
I'm done here and with this site for good now. Yall can make your own assumptions and conclusions about me and my story. I know I am telling the truth and I feel crazy like I'm being gaslit or something. Some responses I'm getting here questioning my validity ultimately left me triggered and genuinely pains and offends me. It seems that staying here will only worsen my mental health now. So thanks for that. To the people that empathize with me, I appreciate you.

Done here.

It's the internet. We don't know who's telling the truth.

But if this is your story and your truth, why does it matter if not every single person believes you?

Talk to the ones who do.
 
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Dot

Info abt typng styl on prfle.
Sep 26, 2021
3,199
Am srry tht OP hs sch a frghtenng xpernce

1 thng tht OP mentnd - if thy r stll viewng ths thrd as thy sd thy r leavng -- ws tht thy 'hd a drnk' 2 gt sme courge

If slf read tht corrctly & if th/ drnk ws alcholc am wondrng whthr tht affctd absorptn -- othr srvivrs wh/ stayd conscs fr lng tme tk thr s.n wth cola or lemnde s/ am wondrng whthr tht ws a factr -- 1nce n.e deviatns frm th/ protcl lke tht hve bn mde thn = impssble 2 prve whthr or nt th/ s.n ws 100% rsponsble fr tht indvidl xpernce

A head injry on tp of all of ths snds lke a lot 2 hve 2 cpe wth - am srry & hpe thngs cntinue 2 imprve fr u OP

Nothng = guarnteed & sme membrs hve hd painfl xprncs sch as abdomnl pain & mny hve nt - w/ R alwys takng a rsk whn evrybdys physiolgy = dffrnt & cn only rsearch th/ accnts tht R providd & mke th/ mst educ8td decsn possble wth tht infrmatn
 
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Nowako

Member
Oct 6, 2022
17
The brain damage for the OP from this thread was because they banged their head, not from the SN
Exactly. At least there is a good chance that this is what made the whole experience so awful, not SN.
 
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releasespieces

Poles are shifting, death is looming
Jun 26, 2022
286
Hours is an exaggeration. Mostly just pacing all day. I know that the protocol and injestion wasn't too far apart, but I simply don't remember my exact timing. Maybe an hour at most? But I could not get my hands on benzos or any not over the counter pain relievers so there is also that. I did have a drink for some courage but that was all for "pain".
So you drank alcohol? Pretty sure that isn't recommended as part of the regime.
 
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Jadzia

Name is from Star Trek. I'm not from E. Europe
May 8, 2019
405
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SamTam33

Warlock
Oct 9, 2022
763
So you drank alcohol? Pretty sure that isn't recommended as part of the regime.
I've been wondering about this. I read somewhere that the preceeding fast should only include "clear liquids." If that's true, shouldn't vodka or tequila qualify?

If I'm sober and clear-minded, I doubt my ability to drink the SN.

That's just one of the things I struggle with when considering this method.
 
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releasespieces

Poles are shifting, death is looming
Jun 26, 2022
286
I'm not trying to be an asshole, it's just that every day there seems to be some post about SN that is very dramatic and differs from most other accounts and then everyone comes out of the woodwork to post on how scared shitless it made them. Maybe every single thing OP says is true, but I think it's beneficial to remind everyone that the pph gave SN a score of 7 for peacefulness for a reason and they really should decide for themselves and not let 1 random case that can't be proven or disproven scare them out of what very well could be a peaceful exit for them.
Not to mention Stan clearly states that you don't want to be up and moving around when it kicks in. He indicates that you could fall and hurt yourself, you have to do your research and follow the protocol. Not trying to diminish the experience of the OP, I'm sure it was traumatic, but it's really important to follow all of the advice given. Imagine how different the outcome could have been, a lot of issues come from that SI kicking in and people creating their own issues complicating this method of suicide.
 
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Jadzia

Name is from Star Trek. I'm not from E. Europe
May 8, 2019
405
I've been wondering about this. I read somewhere that the preceeding fast should only include "clear liquids." If that's true, shouldn't vodka or tequila qualify?

If I'm sober and clear-minded, I doubt my ability to drink the SN.

That's just one of the things I struggle with when considering this method.
I wouldn't risk drinking alcohol or any kind. Benzos will help with SI if you can get them.
 
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Jarni

Love is a toothache in the heart. H.Heine
Dec 12, 2020
383
I wouldn't risk drinking alcohol or any kind. Benzos will help with SI if you can get them.
Clear head is also needed to drink a 2d glass in a right time...
 
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Idontmatter

Just want it all to be over
Oct 25, 2021
647
Keep in mind the op called for help. While the symptoms do seem to be pretty bad for them if they hadn't called for help they probably wouldn't be here right now.

To the op- I'm so sorry for what you went through. I can tell how terrifying it must have been.
 
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y0dha

Student
Feb 10, 2022
104
Yes OP called for help that's why it failed and they hit their head on the floor which is the reason they had brain injury.

So it doesn't make SN any less working, only claim is that it was painful but in another post in march they claimed it was painless. So it's a bit weird even though they said they got some memory back...

Some people mentionning the alcohol ingested but if you think about it phisiologically alcohol will just improve changed of vomiting, raise the time of asborbtion of the SN cause of the quantity of liquid ingested prior and maybe make you more dizzy and more prone to heart beating faster since alcohol raises heartbeat.

So I don't think the alcohol went in the way of the process that much. I mean it dpends of the quantity ingested of course: If OP ingested lots of liquid it raised too much the absorbtion time which prevented them to pass out fast and maybe that's why they felt all these symptoms.
 
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Idontmatter

Just want it all to be over
Oct 25, 2021
647
Yes OP called for help that's why it failed and they hit their head on the floor which is the reason they had brain injury.

So it doesn't make SN any less working, only claim is that it was painful but in another post in march they claimed it was painless. So it's a bit weird even though they said they got some memory back...

Some people mentionning the alcohol ingested but if you think about it phisiologically alcohol will just improve changed of vomiting, raise the time of asborbtion of the SN cause of the quantity of liquid ingested prior and maybe make you more dizzy and more prone to heart beating faster since alcohol raises heartbeat.

So I don't think the alcohol went in the way of the process that much. I mean it dpends of the quantity ingested of course: If OP ingested lots of liquid it raised too much the absorbtion time which prevented them to pass out fast and maybe that's why they felt all these symptoms.
I'm wondering if the blood pressure was really high from the anxiety if that might have caused it to take longer to pass out. It could be a stupid thought but I was thinking about it earlier.
 
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Spyware

Member
Nov 6, 2020
65
I'm a survivor as well. Attempted 2 years ago

I vomited a large portion of SN and the remaining portion of it was too small to kill me quickly enough. I was found. Vomiting was caused by taking my antidepressant as an antiemetic instead of a proper antiemetic (as per Stan's guide). That was a mistake

I'm infinitely grateful I recovered completely to mostly the same state as I was before the attempt. Stan was telling the truth about complete recovery being possible after a failed attempt
 
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Jadzia

Name is from Star Trek. I'm not from E. Europe
May 8, 2019
405
I'm a survivor as well. Attempted 2 years ago

I vomited a large portion of SN and the remaining portion of it was too small to kill me quickly enough. I was found. Vomiting was caused by taking my antidepressant as an antiemetic instead of a proper antiemetic (as per Stan's guide). That was a mistake

I'm infinitely grateful I recovered completely to mostly the same state as I was before the attempt. Stan was telling the truth about complete recovery being possible after a failed attempt
I'm glad you made a full recovery. Did you drink a 2nd glass?
 
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FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
42,000
What you had to go through sounds like a really horrific experience, it's so terrifying how ctb methods can potentially go wrong and cause such a large amount of suffering to be experienced. I'm sorry that people are being so disrespectful, sadly so many on this site are really not compassionate towards what others go through, it's the unfortunate reality.
 
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Spyware

Member
Nov 6, 2020
65
Also, absolutely shocked at the million dollar cost of recovery. I'm so sorry, OP

In my case the recovery costed next to nothing (socialist country)
I'm glad you made a full recovery. Did you drink a 2nd glass?
No. I couldn't. My consciousness was practically off at that point. But I actually managed to get to the kitchen, drink some water, then go back and lie down. After taking SN. I guess death can wait when you are extremely thirsty
 
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jessisme

Specialist
Dec 3, 2022
382
I'm done here and with this site for good now. Yall can make your own assumptions and conclusions about me and my story. I know I am telling the truth and I feel crazy like I'm being gaslit or something. Some responses I'm getting here questioning my validity ultimately left me triggered and genuinely pains and offends me. It seems that staying here will only worsen my mental health now. So thanks for that. To the people that empathize with me, I appreciate you.

Done here.

I for one believe what you have written here and am so sorry for your horrific experience with SN. It sounds like you have been through an awful lot with it which doesn't surprise me. When you take actions to have your body shut down there are bound to be consequences. The "good news" take away for me here is that you did actually manage to die, you just had to endure enormous suffering before which often accompanies even death by natural circumstances. I was wondering if you could tell me about how long you suffered until the time that you died. Do you have a sense for how long it was? Fifteen minutes? An hour? I know it might be hard to come up with a timeframe under the circumstances but just your best guess would be much appreciated. Thanks so much for sharing your story here with us.
 
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MideonNViscera

Student
Nov 26, 2021
146
You guys, in fact the entire internet, really need to learn to accept things that challenge your narrative.
 
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Jarni

Love is a toothache in the heart. H.Heine
Dec 12, 2020
383
Just a reminder, PPeH is very clear on the point of the second glass. IMG 20221219 170913
 
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resolutory

Experienced
Sep 13, 2022
259
Just a reminder, PPeH is very clear on the point of the second glass.View attachment 102497
Out of curiosity, and I know this is probably a stupid question, but what does it mean 'the procedure should be aborted'? Like, as in, what are you meant to do at that point to abort the procedure after you've already drunk a glass?
 
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Jadzia

Name is from Star Trek. I'm not from E. Europe
May 8, 2019
405
Out of curiosity, and I know this is probably a stupid question, but what does it mean 'the procedure should be aborted'? Like, as in, what are you meant to do at that point to abort the procedure after you've already drunk a glass?
I think it means consider seeking medical help.
 
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